Mozilla Firefox set to drop current extension support; implement Chrome style signed WebExtensions A - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Satane;48515355]And this is when I switch to chrome[/QUOTE] Hahahaha no, you can't even fucking install your own extensions in chrome without having htem pass through the store well i mean you can, but you need to reinstall them after closing chrome oh and guess what, publishing on the store costs money i fucking love webkit, if there was a firefox with webkit i would be sold

[QUOTE=eirexe;48515387]Hahahaha no, you can't even fucking install your own extensions in chrome without having htem pass through the store well i mean you can, but you need to reinstall them after closing chrome oh and guess what, publishing on the store costs money i fucking love webkit, if there was a firefox with webkit i would be sold[/QUOTE] How about Opera?

[QUOTE=vercas;48515403]How about Opera?[/QUOTE] Opera went Chromium some time ago, and along with it stripped out pretty much all of its built-in features. I've heard they've been slowly regaining them, but it doesn't look like it's gonna be back to its old standards ever.

Hopefully Waterfox doesn't go the same way, I don't want to have to use old versions of things so I can have a fucking menu bar.

It is time to come back to Netscape I have been waiting for this day

Seems like every week FF is just getting worse.

I can see why they would want to do this but they'd better get to work quick in readding support for the things that make their extensions better than Chrome's. This update will completely break quite a few of the extensions I use and the devs of them won't be able to fix the issues it sounds like. [QUOTE=1/4 Life;48515058]Chrome has been better and faster than Firefox for a long time now.[/QUOTE] Haha, what. Overall they're basically on-par with each other. Chrome uses more memory due to the whole separate process for every tab thing but it also supports more html5 and css3 stuff. As for how fast things load I'd say from personal experience that Firefox is definitely the faster of the two. I have a couple dozen extensions installed on it and it starts pretty quickly (like ten seconds or so) and tabs load quickly. When I open up Chrome to use Trello (which has some issue with their code that crashes Firefox constantly) it comes up about as fast, which isn't saying much since it loads blank page while Firefox loads anywhere from 3-8 tabs on start-up, but then it seems to take forever to finish starting up and I can't load any sites for about 30 seconds to a minute.

I'll probably switch to Edge when extensionsupport comes later this year.

[QUOTE=ultradude25;48515048]An old, outdated extensions API is what kept you using Firefox? I would've thought the performance, [B]memory usage[/B], privacy and customisability over Chrome would've been pretty good reasons, but gee what do I know?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48515240]Reaffirmed From my own experience, Chrome with only six tabs open was vastly more [B]memory consuming[/B] than my heavily modded Firefox with about a dozen tabs open and running for about ten times as long uninterrupted. [/QUOTE] The reason for memory usage is because of the one-process-per-tab thing, which makes chrome more stable, even though it uses more memory. buuuuuut..... [quote=OP]A safer, faster, [B]multi-process[/B] version of Firefox is coming soon with Electrolysis; we needdevelopers to ensure their Firefox add-ons will be compatible with it.[/quote] so basically, firefox is going to become chrome, with slightly better privacy. And if greasemonkey stops working, I'm gonna go mad.

For fuck's sake. If Palemoon had MediaSourceExtensions support I would have switched years ago.

[QUOTE=Satane;48516338]Is waterfox as fast as chrome? I had to get chrome because some websites dont work in FF and I noticed how much faster it is. Just tried, nope. too bad.[/QUOTE] What websites are you visiting that "don't work in ff" because the Gecko engine is pretty fucking standards compliant and fast enough for damn anything in terms of rendering it. The JS engine might not be quite as good as V8, but it's still pretty solid.

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48516641]What websites are you visiting that "don't work in ff" because the Gecko engine is pretty fucking standards compliant and fast enough for damn anything in terms of rendering it. The JS engine might not be quite as good as V8, but it's still pretty solid.[/QUOTE] Trying using Trello. Something about that site rather reliably crashes Firefox but not Chrome and has since at least around September of last year from what I found after searching for a solution.

[QUOTE=eirexe;48515387]Hahahaha no, you can't even fucking install your own extensions in chrome without having htem pass through the store[/QUOTE] what the fuck are you talking about all you have to do is drag in an unsigned extension from your computer lmao it's even easier than firefox is

More reason to switch to Edge Honestly the one reason I use chrome now is to go on sites with lots of ads. Edge for everything else

that fucking blows [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] Firefox uses considerably less memory than chrome whilst managing tabs better I'm just going to stick with a fork of FF that will include the old plugin system

Welp, that's me staying on this version of Firefox for the forseeable future.

What the fuck Firefox, that is the only reason I use you.

So both Microsoft and Mozilla are now going to make their browsers as close as possible to Chrome. That's cool. It's almost like how in the 90's everyone was making their browser like IE. Nothing bad can come from this.

[QUOTE=Satane;48516753]gamebanana - upload buttons have been broken for years, I didn't wanna use IE. I'm sure there are more examples. Page compatibility has become shit ever since chrome is the top browser. 10 seconds? what the actual christ? Maybe firefox works better on shit computers while chrome actually utilizes avalible resources? All I know is chrome starts faster, opens pages faster and is generally snappier. Firefox takes maybe 1 sec to load while chrome is instant on my pc. But that's probably due to all the addons, then again I don't really have many addons, and I have adblock on chrome too.[/QUOTE] Just an FYI, Chrome autostarts in the background on boot by default. So the "instant" comparison is a bit disingenuous. Though for me, Firefox and Chrome take about 2-3 seconds to start, even with plugins.

I remember I had FF first, then HTML5 was being super buggy so I went to Chrome, only for Chrome to disallow any Adblocker addons, and FF updated to work better with HTML5 so I went straight back. Does Mozilla have a plan to sign plugins a bit better than Chrome? Because you'd think they know that they could lose a large portion of users from doing this.

[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;48515240]As I recall, didn't it turn out the myth of Chrome being faster/less resource intensive turned out to literally just be a myth. And while Chrome's individual instances were less intensive, together they were far more intensive than Firefox. Reaffirmed From my own experience, Chrome with only six tabs open was vastly more memory consuming than my heavily modded Firefox with about a dozen tabs open and running for about ten times as long uninterrupted. I've never found a single reason to use Chrome. It has always performed worse, looked worse, and had worse add-on support.[/QUOTE] Pretty much this. Chrome with 100 tabs becomes practically unusable while on Firefox that's still fine (even with the new multi-process system since that behaves differently from Chrome's). That said, with less than 10 tabs Chrome seems to be a tiny bit faster.

[QUOTE=Panda X;48517145]So both Microsoft and Mozilla are now going to make their browsers as close as possible to Chrome. That's cool. It's almost like how in the 90's everyone was making their browser like IE. Nothing bad can come from this.[/QUOTE] It's not cool for people who don't want chrome, and specifically use other browsers to avoid it.

[QUOTE=Janus Vesta;48518031]It's not cool for people who don't want chrome, and specifically use other browsers to avoid it.[/QUOTE] Panda X's post is so sarcastic I can actually literally taste it.

[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;48515611]Opera went Chromium some time ago, and along with it stripped out pretty much all of its built-in features. I've heard they've been slowly regaining them, but it doesn't look like it's gonna be back to its old standards ever.[/QUOTE] Opera was toe in line with Chrome for the longest of time and has been flat out hostile for power users at points. A far better option would be [URL="https://vivaldi.com/"]Vivaldi[/URL] [I](Yet Another Chromium Fork)[/I]. While similar to Chrome, the UI & UX is very much organically reinventing Opera 12.xx due to their core team having left Opera back before Chropera came about. Chropera rapidly gained many useful features about the time Vivaldi came onto the scene. The [URL="https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/teamblog/item/47-snapshot-1-0-252-3-typed-history-dropdown-more-polish-on-web-panels-extensions"]latest build[/URL] is amazingly more useful than what Chropera was up until recently.

[QUOTE=Flussmann;48518486]Opera was toe in line with Chrome for the longest of time and has been flat out hostile for power users at points. A far better option would be [URL="https://vivaldi.com/"]Vivaldi[/URL] [I](Yet Another Chromium Fork)[/I]. While similar to Chrome, the UI & UX is very much organically reinventing Opera 12.xx due to their core team having left Opera back before Chropera came about. Chropera rapidly gained many useful features about the time Vivaldi came onto the scene. The [URL="https://vivaldi.net/en-US/blogs/teamblog/item/47-snapshot-1-0-252-3-typed-history-dropdown-more-polish-on-web-panels-extensions"]latest build[/URL] is amazingly more useful than what Chropera was up until recently.[/QUOTE] How's vivaldi? I'm considering using it as my main browser.

[QUOTE=willtheoct;48516505][...] And if greasemonkey stops working, I'm gonna go mad.[/QUOTE] Chrome has Tampermonkey, so it's at least mostly compatible. [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Sitkero;48515331]You could give [url=http://www.seamonkey-project.org/]Seamonkey[/url] a look, it might as well be a working Firefox 3[/QUOTE] I just installed it. It's very... 90s/early 2000s. It's actually pretty comfortable with a non-ugly theme though. A nice part of this is that it still uses the old Sync system, which offers [B]a lot[/B] more privacy. (It was replaced in the main Firefox version because some users didn't read the instructions and then made a fuss about it when they found out it doesn't work as backup.)

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48515155]Aw man that's bullshit. Why is Mozilla trying to become Chrome? I don't like Chrome's interface, which they decided to copy for no reason. So I'm already using an extension to force it to look like the old interface, and now they want to take that away from me too? What the hell Mozilla?[/QUOTE] Probably because [img]http://imgkk.com/i/69sw.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Alice3173;48516686]Trying using Trello. Something about that site rather reliably crashes Firefox but not Chrome and has since at least around September of last year from what I found after searching for a solution.[/QUOTE] I'm in Waterfox and fooled around with the homepage and the Playrust trello. I experienced no such crash. [editline]22nd August 2015[/editline] To whoever said Chrome sometimes idles out and doesn't want to load anything for like thirty seconds - I also had that problem. It's issue is when you want to use extensions, because that's when it comes to a screeching halt. I'm in Firefox now with uBlock, Disconnect, and a Twitch notifier and I've yet to experience the same slowdowns.

[QUOTE=eirexe;48518829]How's vivaldi? I'm considering using it as my main browser.[/QUOTE] I wish that I could give a fair answer as to having it as the primary browser, but am currently using Firefox as my primary. Seeing how Edge is seriously messing my groove up about the same time that Firefox is going off the deep end, I should look at Vivaldi more seriously again. I do know that back when I tried to keep it as my main back in May, the nitpicks that were to be had from back in March were resolved by and large. Some things that were, and still are [I](looking at the latest build as we speak)[/I], holding me back are the lack of UI customisability [I](Or ease thereof. It's still very much a guided sandbox even with the massively expanded options screen.)[/I], multiscreen issues [I](Left is best. Similar to how Opera 12.xx was, but more so.)[/I], tab issues [I](can't be easily "torn" off and such)[/I], and some things that I can't place my finger on... The multiscreen and tab issues are going to continue to be game breakers for me and hopefully become resolved before Edge becomes full-featured. While tangently related, it should be noted that Edge has serious potential.

Wow they really want to kill firefox, well I'm not updating then I like status-4-evar,classic theme and buttons restorer.