• Martin Shkreli's deadline for a Daraprim price reduction has passed, and it's still the exact same p
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[QUOTE=Amplar;48860172][img]http://i.imgur.com/bieExan.png[/img] What about the people without insurance you fuck? They could've bought a months' supply for $420, versus $27,000. Fuck off.[/QUOTE] the medical industry doesn't care about people with no insurance, that is part of why everything medical is so expensive in this country
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48860169]Bullshit. Without context he looks like an average young adult.[/QUOTE] Looks more like a dweeby chess player that thinks he is hot shit.
This whole thing boils my blood.
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[QUOTE=Amplar;48860172][img]http://i.imgur.com/bieExan.png[/img] What about the people without insurance you fuck? They could've bought a months' supply for $420, versus $27,000. Fuck off.[/QUOTE] Not that I agree with what he is doing or anything, but drug companies sometimes [I]do[/I] actually have policies to [url=http://www.astrazeneca-us.com/medicines/help-affording-your-medicines]sell drugs at reduced prices[/url] to people that would otherwise have trouble affording them (due to lack of insurance, for example). [editline]e[/editline] [quote]Turing has established the Daraprim Direct program which enables us to provide a simple, straightforward way to ensure that patients have easy access to the medicine. We have established a number of financial assistance programs for patients with financial need. [B]This includes offering the product without charge to qualified, uninsured patients.[/B] We have established a number of financial assistance programs for patients with financial need. This includes offering the product without charge to qualified, uninsured patients. For insured Medicare patients, we contribute to an independent (OIG-approved) charity that provides for patients’ cost-sharing obligations for toxoplasmosis therapy. For commercially insured patients, we have established a co-pay assistance program. Daraprim Direct also helps streamline insurance coverage through a well-respected pharmacy, one that’s focused specifically on the timely delivery of Daraprim to the patients who need it. Should any problem arise, Turing will work with any patient, hospital, clinic and institution – on a case-by-case basis – to address any exceptions and help secure access to Daraprim.[/quote] Grain of salt obviously since it says "qualified", and is from their website, but his price-gouging policy is really not as much of issue for individual patients as it is for hospitals and insurance companies. [editline]e[/editline] Point being: there probably arent people dying because this guy is charging a shitload for a drug. No doubt he is shafting hospitals and insurance companies, but the whole thing is being a little bit sensationalized. The real tough part with the price is that it makes it difficult for hospitals to keep on hand, not that people cant afford it [I]at all[/I].
OP has an unexpectedly fitting username.
His haircut reminds me of Hitler's. Does it for anyone else?
Fucking christ this guy's an asshole.
The title from the frontpage said "Martin Shkreli's Dead..."
[QUOTE=Flapjacks;48860569]OP has an unexpectedly fitting username.[/QUOTE] :smug:
[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;48862008]The title from the frontpage said "Martin Shkreli's Dead..."[/QUOTE] I wish we were reading that news story right now.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;48859625]Elaborate?[/QUOTE] to my knowledge, its the largest pharmacutical market with no price regulations in the world, yet the companies that sell drugs here also sell them for the regulated prices everywhere else, and still manage to make money everywhere else, they just make more money here because we don't control prices generics though aren't nearly as readily available here in the US either because there isn't much incentive to do it and the system doesn't encourage it either
Is his name like, just some weird translation for "Nihilistic Sociopath"?
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;48866002]Is his name like, just some weird translation for "Nihilistic Sociopath"?[/QUOTE]Either that or just dumb kid with too much power.
What if Riot Games got involved in this and suspended him from League of Legends til he gets his act together :v: I don't play that game, but I hear a lot that people get banned from LoL for lesser behaviour.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;48866002]Is his name like, just some weird translation for "Nihilistic Sociopath"?[/QUOTE] I thought it translated to ISIS' abusive alcoholic step father. Shows what I know. [editline]9th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;48866305]What if Riot Games got involved in this and suspended him from League of Legends til he gets his act together :v: I don't play that game, but I hear a lot that people get banned from LoL for lesser behaviour.[/QUOTE] They do.
isn't this grounds for a civil suite
[QUOTE=Map in a box;48867504]isn't this grounds for a civil suite[/QUOTE] Some people like the kinds who need this drug would probably see it as grounds for a riot/angry mob.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;48860545]Point being: there probably arent people dying because this guy is charging a shitload for a drug. No doubt he is shafting hospitals and insurance companies, but the whole thing is being a little bit sensationalized. The real tough part with the price is that it makes it difficult for hospitals to keep on hand, not that people cant afford it [I]at all[/I].[/QUOTE] Incorrect. Price of insurance will go up because of shit like this. This doesn't help peoples bank accounts when Obamacare mandates insurance.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;48866002]Is his name like, just some weird translation for "Nihilistic Sociopath"?[/QUOTE] He's the embodiment of free market capitalism's greed.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48877524]He's the embodiment of free market capitalism's greed.[/QUOTE] Exactly. He's a symptom of a larger problem. He's just one example that just happened to be in the spotlight while there are dozens of others who do the same thing without the massive scrutiny.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;48877608]Exactly. He's a symptom of a larger problem. He's just one example that just happened to be in the spotlight while there are dozens of others who do the same thing without the massive scrutiny.[/QUOTE] In the past people would cure diseases asking for nothing but a salary and pension to live on. Now any smart guy that wants to do good has to either work for some businessmen who'll do demand 8000% markup or work for a university that sells their research to those very same businessmen.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48877764]In the past people would cure diseases asking for nothing but a salary and pension to live on. Now any smart guy that wants to do good has to either work for some businessmen who'll do demand 8000% markup or work for a university that sells their research to those very same businessmen.[/QUOTE] Right, because guess who can afford fda trials/mass production/doctor education? Definitely not some random nice guy. Also, this isn't new. Penicillin followed basically the exact path you described. Basic interaction found in a university lab, but mass produced by a corporation.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48877764]In the past people would cure diseases asking for nothing but a salary and pension to live on. Now any smart guy that wants to do good has to either work for some businessmen who'll do demand 8000% markup or work for a university that sells their research to those very same businessmen.[/QUOTE] That's not how drug discovery works at all.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48877764]In the past people would cure diseases asking for nothing but a salary and pension to live on. Now any smart guy that wants to do good has to either work for some businessmen who'll do demand 8000% markup or work for a university that sells their research to those very same businessmen.[/QUOTE]When was that? If this is a thing, why won't all these nice scientist guys band together and open an open source research clinic? Oh wait, it costs a fuckton and just being nice doesn't get you far.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;48859816]he's like a bond villain's awkward teenage phase[/QUOTE] I think he looks more like a grown-up version of that douchey rich kid from Tiny Toons. [img]http://i.imgur.com/tg1Mm5T.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;48879910]I think he looks more like a grown-up version of that douchey rich kid from Tiny Toons. [img]http://i.imgur.com/tg1Mm5T.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] You mean Montana Max?
[QUOTE=Solo Wing;48869584]Some people like the kinds who need this drug would probably see it as grounds for a riot/angry mob.[/QUOTE] Considering the medication he's price gouging affects people recovering from Cancer and Leukemia, I'm surprised there aren't angry mobs and protesters going crazy over this (or if there are, we aren't seeing any huge news coverage over it). Pretty sure just about everyone have seen the effects of cancer on people at some point in their lives. The only thing worse than cancer, are people like this Shkreli guy who was willing to exploit such a horrible disease to turn a profit.
[QUOTE=Flapjacks;48860569]OP has an unexpectedly fitting username.[/QUOTE] op has an unexpectedly fitting avatar
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;48860545] Point being: there probably arent people dying because this guy is charging a shitload for a drug. No doubt he is shafting hospitals and insurance companies, but the whole thing is being a little bit sensationalized. The real tough part with the price is that it makes it difficult for hospitals to keep on hand, not that people cant afford it [I]at all[/I].[/QUOTE] Those programs only cover like 1-2% of a drugs market, they were token programs enacted as an excuse to not enact price caps Not that people have died yet, but making a drug unaffordable to everyone is going to kill people eventually
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