Shit's about to go down in California in November, Marijuana legalization up on the ballot - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Cael;21008957]You still seem to be ignoring the idea that substance use tends to be one of those things that screws with your judgment calls. I like how, before, when someone had high morals, they were considered upstanding, or (In the middle ages or so) Chivalric. Now you're a narc, a square, a dork, or a fascist. You may think I don't have an open mind, but I have friends of every color, creed, and sexual orientation, and I don't judge a person because they smoke marijuana; I think the problem is the act, not the performance. Oh, and I defend something despite opposing arguments? Are you not doing the exact same thing? I could throw hundreds of articles about the 'dangers of marijuana', and you would most likely dismiss them all as ignorant or biased or both. At any rate, isn't defending your position what a debate is? Isn't a debate exactly what we're having? Erowid classifies it as a depressant, but that's beside the point, which is that Alcohol isn't supposed to make you violent, yet it does. [editline]03:38AM[/editline] My name is Cael, and I don't need a plant to have fun.[/QUOTE] Neither do they, it just amplifies the fun. Wouldn't you like to have more fun? Yeah, get out of you've never done weed in your life (I bet).

[QUOTE=Kybalt;21008930]you have a point, both of those effect the human mind and take out of a perfect mental state and people have been killed in sports, and killed over love, so lets ban them. :australia:[/QUOTE] Har har, except we're wired for competition and compelled to love.

[QUOTE=Cael;21008971]Har har, except we're wired for competition and compelled to love.[/QUOTE] We're wired to want to have fun which is what weed does I WIN

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21008970]Neither do they, it just amplifies the fun. Wouldn't you like to have more fun? Yeah, get out of you've never done weed in your life (I bet).[/QUOTE] No, I haven't. I prefer to be in control of my actions. I prefer to remember things. I pride myself in my intellect. The thought of not being able to remember something because I was smashed is as terrifying as the inevitability of mental breakdown due to old age. I don't need to try something to have a stance on it. Have you ever had sex with someone of the same sex? If you haven't, how do you know you won't like it if you haven't tried it?

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21008977]We're wired to want to have fun which is what weed does I WIN[/QUOTE] bu-bu-but think of the second hand smoke!

Doing weed is comparable to playing sports, both are fun but not particularly natural for us. [editline]11:42PM[/editline] [QUOTE=GunsNRoses;21008985]bu-bu-but think of the second hand smoke![/QUOTE] Isn't Weed proven to slow down cancer or something, and the smoke is proven also not to give you cancer

[QUOTE=Cael;21008983]No, I haven't. I prefer to be in control of my actions. I prefer to remember things. I pride myself in my intellect. The thought of not being able to remember something because I was smashed is as terrifying as the inevitability of mental breakdown due to old age. I don't need to try something to have a stance on it. Have you ever had sex with someone of the same sex? If you haven't, how do you know you won't like it if you haven't tried it?[/QUOTE] Well listen up, it's not like alcohol where people do really fucking stupid things without thinking about it.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21008977]We're wired to want to have fun which is what weed does I WIN[/QUOTE] Would you take a pill if it gave you the sensation of falling in love? To the point where you thought the love was real?

[QUOTE=Cael;21008983]No, I haven't. I prefer to be in control of my actions. I prefer to remember things. I pride myself in my intellect. The thought of not being able to remember something because I was smashed is as terrifying as the inevitability of mental breakdown due to old age. I don't need to try something to have a stance on it. Have you ever had sex with someone of the same sex? If you haven't, how do you know you won't like it if you haven't tried it?[/QUOTE] The fuck do you think weed does to you, you know nothing. Remember that whole "I didn't know how to unlock my phone and I didn't want to curbstomp my friend" thing I said? I remember nearly everything that happened. We went under a tree behind some apartments, got an apple (we had nothing, we're pathetic) and smoked some weed. Then walked down to the local store, sprayed deodarent on us (we didn't buy it, he just found an open one), I called my mom who sent my father (hell send, he knows how2weed), Got in the car, sat in the back, he apparently eyed by friend, suspicious. Got home, got goldfish out of my backpack because I hadn't eaten it from lunch at school, ate it (oh man it was the best goldfish I ever did have) and played some MW2 (was amazing i tell you what, i felt so good at it, I was doing good too)

[QUOTE=Cael;21008957][B]1.[/B] You still seem to be ignoring the idea that substance use tends to be one of those things that screws with your judgment calls. [B]2.[/B] I like how, before, when someone had high morals, they were considered upstanding, or (In the middle ages or so) Chivalric. Now you're a narc, a square, a dork, or a fascist. You may think I don't have an open mind, [B]3.[/B] but I have friends of every color, creed, and sexual orientation, and [B]4.[/B] I don't judge a person because they smoke marijuana; I think the problem is the act, not the performance. Oh, and [B]5.[/B] I defend something despite opposing arguments? Are you not doing the exact same thing? [B]6.[/B]I could throw hundreds of articles about the 'dangers of marijuana', and you would most likely dismiss them all as ignorant or biased or both. At any rate, isn't defending your position what a debate is? Isn't a debate exactly what we're having? [B]7. [/B]Erowid classifies it as a depressant, but that's beside the point, which is that Alcohol isn't supposed to make you violent, yet it does.[/QUOTE] 1. You seem to be unaware of the concept of making decisions like that, before getting drunk/stoned etc, etc. 2. The middle ages were the high point of morality and freedom, right, further more, pot was legal and everyone drank and treated women like property. 3. Uhhh, this isn't a valid defense of anything, but I never questioned this in the first place I don't even. 4. Well that's all fine and dandy, but I would judge someone for something like that, if I held your position. More broadly, I do judge people who are religious for being religious. 5. No you defend your argument, despite evidence against your argument. 6. Maybe because they are biased and ignorant? 7. Erowid is not the end all. It's a source that takes and publishes everyone's most broad experiences, which frankly isn't all that scientific or reliable.

[QUOTE=Cael;21009001]Would you take a pill if it gave you the sensation of falling in love? To the point where you thought the love was real?[/QUOTE] That isn't how love works at all

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21008988]Doing weed is comparable to playing sports, both are fun but not particularly natural for us.[/QUOTE] Sports are more than natural. They're instinctual. Being the alpha male? That's one of the most primal human drives. [QUOTE=Gummylamb;21008988]Isn't Weed proven to slow down cancer or something, and the smoke is proven also not to give you cancer[/QUOTE] Smoke proven not to give you cancer? Modern medicine called. They've got some new facts for you.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21009016]The fuck do you think weed does to you, you know nothing. Remember that whole "I didn't know how to unlock my phone and I didn't want to curbstomp my friend" thing I said? I remember nearly everything that happened. We went under a tree behind some apartments, got an apple (we had nothing, we're pathetic) and smoked some weed. Then walked down to the local store, sprayed deodarent on us (we didn't buy it, he just found an open one), I called my mom who sent my father (hell send, he knows how2weed), Got in the car, sat in the back, he apparently eyed by friend, suspicious. Got home, got goldfish out of my backpack because I hadn't eaten it from lunch at school, ate it (oh man it was the best goldfish I ever did have) and played some MW2 (was amazing i tell you what, i felt so good at it, I was doing good too)[/QUOTE] Quoted 4 new page

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21009023]That isn't how love works at all[/QUOTE] I thought you said love was a substance.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21008970]Neither do they, it just amplifies the fun. Wouldn't you like to have more fun? Yeah,[B] get out of you've never done weed in your life[/B] (I bet).[/QUOTE] Neither have I. :v:

[QUOTE=Cael;21009024]Sports are more than natural. They're instinctual. Being the alpha male? That's one of the most primal human drives. Smoke proven not to give you cancer? Modern medicine called. They've got some new facts for you.[/QUOTE] That's the amazing part you dimwit, the fact that it DOESN'T is what gives it remarkable medical properties. [editline]11:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Kybalt;21009031]Neither have I. :v:[/QUOTE] yeah well somehow you know what you're doing

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[QUOTE=Cael;21009029]I thought you said love was a substance.[/QUOTE] I was trying to prove a point that you don't like fun, and forgot that you said substances. But whatever the fuck, if you could take a pill to feel very very good, would you do it? [editline]11:47PM[/editline] [QUOTE=fsTyle;21009035]$$$$$$$[/QUOTE] Remarkable post, practically wrote itself I'm sure.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21009016]The fuck do you think weed does to you, you know nothing. Remember that whole "I didn't know how to unlock my phone and I didn't want to curbstomp my friend" thing I said? I remember nearly everything that happened. We went under a tree behind some apartments, got an apple (we had nothing, we're pathetic) and smoked some weed. Then walked down to the local store, sprayed deodarent on us (we didn't buy it, he just found an open one), I called my mom who sent my father (hell send, he knows how2weed), Got in the car, sat in the back, he apparently eyed by friend, suspicious. Got home, got goldfish out of my backpack because I hadn't eaten it from lunch at school, ate it (oh man it was the best goldfish I ever did have) and played some MW2 (was amazing i tell you what, i felt so good at it, I was doing good too)[/QUOTE] Oy, short term memory loss. One of the major proven effects.

[QUOTE=Cael;21009024]Sports are more than natural. They're instinctual. Being the alpha male? That's one of the most primal human drives. [B]Smoke proven not to give you cancer? Modern medicine called. They've got some new facts for you[/B].[/QUOTE] Modern Medicine would like to inform you that you're late. The smoke from it kills the cancer cells before they have a chance to replicate.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21009043]I was trying to prove a point that you don't like fun, and forgot that you said substances. But whatever the fuck, if you could take a pill to feel very very good, would you do it?[/QUOTE] No, I wouldn't. I would rather [i]earn[/i] my emotions, as crazy as that sounds.

[QUOTE=Cael;21009055]Oy, short term memory loss. One of the major proven effects.[/QUOTE] Not permanent. Obviously it inhibits some things, and is, like everything in life, meant to be taken in moderation.

[QUOTE=Cael;21009064]No, I wouldn't. I would rather [i]earn[/i] my emotions, as crazy as that sounds.[/QUOTE] Why earn your emotions when you can amplify them and bring them to different places?

[QUOTE=Cael;21009055]Oy, short term memory loss. One of the major proven effects.[/QUOTE] Who cares though? Why would you need to remember what happened 30 minutes ago when you're high? As long as you can get by and not DIE (which you won't) you're fine.

[QUOTE=Cael;21009064]No, I wouldn't. I would rather [i]earn[/i] my emotions, as crazy as that sounds.[/QUOTE] Okay, we're not going to force you to smoke, but maybe you could you know, let us, you know, have [I]personal freedoms[/I], as crazy as that sounds.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;21009069]Not permanent. Obviously it inhibits some things, and is, like everything in life, meant to be taken in moderation.[/QUOTE] Indeed, you can even take hard drugs like heroin, and in moderation you'd do fine (inadvisable however, you may get addicted)

[QUOTE=Cael;21009055]Oy, short term memory loss. One of the major proven effects.[/QUOTE] Whilst you're under the influence of the drug.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;21009019]5. No you defend your argument, despite evidence against your argument. 6. Maybe because they are biased and ignorant?[/QUOTE] And you defend your argument, despite evidence against your argument. Worst of all, you refuse to acknowledge evidence against your argument. I assume there's not a single article out there that could possibly involve negative side effects of marijuana that's true, right?

[QUOTE=Kybalt;21009078]Okay, we're not going to force you to smoke, but maybe you could you know, let us, you know, have [I]personal freedoms[/I], as crazy as that sounds.[/QUOTE] he doesn't like it when people have fun, you forgot that

[QUOTE=Cael;21009097]And you defend your argument, despite evidence against your argument. Worst of all, you refuse to acknowledge evidence against your argument. I assume there's not a single article out there that could possibly involve negative side effects of marijuana that's true, right?[/QUOTE] You haven't show a single scientific article documenting your claims.