Shit's about to go down in California in November, Marijuana legalization up on the ballot - Polidicks

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;21004563]ITT: people debate over a plant[/QUOTE] And in every other thread: People debate over a game, people debate over a belief, people debate over hot girls. I mean ffs you can reduce anything to mere pointless shit, doesn't mean you have made a good point.

ITT weed kills, cures cancer and is a religion

[QUOTE=Billiam;20985554]Well Canada has sorta' decriminalized marijuana. Pressure from the United States is probably a massive problem as well since they're butt buddies. [/QUOTE] Vancouver has marijuana cafes that the police leave alone, and people smoke it outdoors in parks and such, but that sentiment doesn't extend to the rest of the country.

[QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21005746]ITT weed kills, cures cancer and is a religion[/QUOTE] People that say ITT are always the angsty teens (so angsty they don't like weed)

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21005856][QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21005746]ITT weed kills, cures cancer and is a religion[/QUOTE] People that say ITT are always the angsty teens (so angsty they don't like weed)[/QUOTE] Hi gummylamb I missed you on topic weed is overrated

you're that one guy who trolled my cinnamon thread and said mean things about it right? i hate you

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21005912]you're that one guy who trolled my cinnamon thread and said mean things about it right? i hate you[/QUOTE] Owah no flaming pls This is about the legalization of weed

Well it should be legalized because it would help the economy, and I can't see what bad it could do.

People who think marijuana is harmless are as ignorant as the ones who think it kills on contact. The reason drugs work is because they're altering the chemistry/wiring of your body or mind. It's the same thing as cutting yourself: Yeah, it feels good to some people, and some people use it to relieve stress, [i]and[/i] you can be careful and not kill yourself with it, but you're still harming your body.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21004444]How many?[/QUOTE] Fuckin' lots.

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21006001]Well it should be legalized because it would help the economy, and I can't see what bad it could do.[/QUOTE] The additional tax money from one state will certainly have great impact on the US national debt.

[QUOTE=Kyle v2;20993743]The Conservative Party Of Canada is the US's butt buddy, not me...[/QUOTE] What? We have gigantic amounts of trade going on between us, you guys are supporting us in two overseas wars. We share military equipment and are part of many world political organization together. We share one of the world's biggest borders, thousands of people pass through it every day and it has remained peaceful for hundreds of years. We are butt buddies.

[QUOTE=Mr.Ordbert;21005746]ITT weed kills, cures cancer and is a religion[/QUOTE] ITT Mr. Ordbert trolls as usual.

[QUOTE=Mr_Sun;21001866]If I ever visit California and I see or here some high fuckers on the streets or in the room next door im going to shove that joint in their eye or break the bong and cut their throat with it. -I obviously dont know anything about drugs and I dont care. I just dont think you really need this to be passed. The US is just submitting to the whiney 19 year old druggies cry for being unique. but hey, I dont care either way. lifestyle choice...[/QUOTE] yeah, let's kill someone because they enjoy smoking a harmless plant. what the fuck is wrong with you? [editline]11:39PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Sasso;21005695]And in every other thread: People debate over a game, people debate over a belief, people debate over hot girls. I mean ffs you can reduce anything to mere pointless shit, doesn't mean you have made a good point.[/QUOTE] nice job falling for it sparky

[QUOTE=lulzbocks;20997780]Our state is the worst one in the union. At least California has a reason for budget deficits and all it's problems.[/QUOTE] As long as we have Texas, we'll never be the worst state in the Union.

[QUOTE=Cael;21006079]People who think marijuana is harmless are as ignorant as the ones who think it kills on contact. The reason drugs work is because they're altering the chemistry/wiring of your body or mind. It's the same thing as cutting yourself: Yeah, it feels good to some people, and some people use it to relieve stress, [i]and[/i] you can be careful and not kill yourself with it, but you're still harming your body.[/QUOTE] Well, yeah, but to be honest every single thing you do alters the state of your mind. That's what emotions are.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;21007202]Well, yeah, but to be honest every single thing you do alters the state of your mind. That's what emotions are.[/QUOTE] Right, but your body is set up to handle those signals and feelings. The side effects from drugs are due to your body saying "Hmm... I don't really know what [i]exactly[/i] to do with this stuff, so I'll use what I know." Launch notepad and try to open a picture file. It'll work, but it's not exactly a text version of the picture.

Are you comparing a human brain to windows?

[QUOTE=Cael;21007627]Right, but your body is set up to handle those signals and feelings. The side effects from drugs are due to your body saying "Hmm... I don't really know what [i]exactly[/i] to do with this stuff, so I'll use what I know." Launch notepad and try to open a picture file. It'll work, but it's not exactly a text version of the picture.[/QUOTE] You can't do that D: [editline]09:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=DarkSpider;21007716]Are you comparing a human brain to windows?[/QUOTE] I thought it was a good comparison actually, if you could actually open pictures with text anyway

[QUOTE=Gummylamb;21007725]You can't do that D: [editline]09:36PM[/editline] I thought it was a good comparison actually, if you could actually open pictures with text anyway[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i58/bahamut1993/PictureProof.png[/IMG] Just turn off the .txt filter in the file menu. The great thing about text files is that every byte-value represents a different character, so Notepad CAN interpret everything it sees, even if it doesn't make sense to us.

Then yeah, it is a good comparison.

And so, if the comparison is appropriate, is it reasonable to assume that sending your mind gibberish signals is not always a good thing to do?

[QUOTE=Cael;21007899]And so, if the comparison is appropriate, is it reasonable to assume that sending your mind gibberish signals is not always a good thing to do?[/QUOTE] Ban caffeine

[QUOTE=Cael;21006079]People who think [B]anything [/B]is harmless are as ignorant as the ones who think it kills on contact. The reason [B]it [/B]work is because they're altering the chemistry/wiring of your body or mind. It's the same thing as cutting yourself: Yeah, it feels good to some people, and some people use it to relieve stress, [i]and[/i] you can be careful and not kill yourself with it, but you're still harming your body.[/QUOTE] Everything alters your brain/body in some way. [editline]12:58AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Cael;21007899]And so, if the comparison is appropriate, is it reasonable to assume that sending your mind gibberish signals is not always a good thing to do?[/QUOTE] It's really horrible analogy as opening things with notepad leaves no lasting effects, good or bad.

[QUOTE=GunsNRoses;21007946]Ban caffeine[/QUOTE] I'm not implying a zero-tolerance policy on all substances. I will imply, however, that Psychedelics should be treated more strictly than Depressants or Stimulants. [editline]02:02AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Kybalt;21007970]Everything alters your brain/body in some way.[/QUOTE] Yes, but the issue is whether or not the brain/body is designed to handle it. [QUOTE=Kybalt;21007970] It's really horrible analogy as opening things with notepad leaves no lasting effects, good or bad.[/QUOTE] [i]Fine[/i], it's like a person trying to view a picture that they opened with notepad, and then trying to comment on it as if it were a normal picture.

[QUOTE=Cael;21007899]And so, if the comparison is appropriate, is it reasonable to assume that sending your mind gibberish signals is not always a good thing to do?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Cael;21008002]I'm not implying a zero-tolerance policy on all substances. I will imply, however, that Psychedelics should be treated more strictly than Depressants or Stimulants. [editline]02:02AM[/editline] Yes, but the issue is whether or not the brain/body is designed to handle it. [i]Fine[/i], it's like a person trying to view a picture that they opened with notepad, and then trying to comment on it as if it were a normal picture.[/QUOTE] [quote=Wiki]The pharmacological actions of THC result from its binding to the [B]cannabinoid receptor CB1[/B], located mainly in the central nervous system, and the CB2 receptor, mainly present in cells of the immune system. [B]It acts as a partial agonist on both receptors, i.e., it activates them but not to their full extent.[/B] The psychoactive effects of THC are mediated by its activation of the CB1 receptor, which is the most abundant G protein-coupled receptor in the brain. The presence of these specialized receptors in the brain implied to researchers that endogenous cannabinoids are manufactured by the body, so the search began for a substance normally manufactured in the brain that binds to these receptors, the so-called natural ligand or agonist, leading to the eventual discovery of anandamide, 2-arachidonyl glyceride (2-AG), and other related compounds known as endocannabinoids. This story resembles the discovery of the endogenous opiates (endorphins, enkephalins, and dynorphin), after the realization that morphine and other opiates bind to specific receptors in the brain. In addition, it has been shown that cannabinoids, through an unknown mechanism, activate endogenous opioid pathways involving the μ1 opioid receptor, precipitating a dopamine release in the nucleus accumbens. The effects of the drug can be suppressed by the CB1 cannabinoid receptor antagonist rimonabant (SR141716A) as well as opioid receptor antagonists (opioid blockers) naloxone and naloxonazine.[12] The mechanism of endocannabinoid synaptic transmission is thought to occur as follows: First, transmission of the excitatory neurotransmitter glutamate causes an influx of calcium ions into the post-synaptic neuron. Through a mechanism not yet fully understood, the presence of post-synaptic calcium induces the production of endocannabinoids in the post-synaptic neuron. These endocannabinoids (such as anandamide), then, are released into the synaptic cleft, where binding occurs at cannabinoid receptors present on pre-synaptic neurons, where they modulate neurotransmission. Thus, this form of neurotransmission is termed retrograde transmission, as the signal is carried in the opposite direction of orthodox propagation, which previously was thought to be exclusively one way. THC has mild to moderate analgesic effects, and cannabis can be used to treat pain. The mechanism for analgesic effects caused directly by THC or other cannabinoid agonists is not fully understood. Other effects include relaxation; euphoria; altered space-time perception; alteration of visual, auditory, and olfactory senses; anxiety; disorientation; fatigue; and appetite stimulation (colloquially known as "the munchies"). The mechanism for appetite stimulation in subjects is believed to result from activity in the gastro-hypothalamic axis. CB1 activity in the hunger centers in the hypothalamus increases the palatability of food when levels of a hunger hormone ghrelin increase as food enters the stomach. After chyme is passed into the duodenum, signaling hormones such as cholecystokinin and leptin are released, causing reduction in gastric emptying and transmission of satiety signals to the hypothalamus. Cannabinoid activity is reduced through the satiety signals induced by leptin release. It also has anti-emetic properties, and also may reduce aggression in certain subjects. THC has an active metabolite, 11-Hydroxy-THC, which may also play a role in the analgesic and recreational effects of cannabis. The α7 nicotinic receptor antagonist methyllycaconitine can block self-administration of THC in rats comparable to the effects of varenicline on nicotine administration.[13][14][/quote] The brain does have receptors for THC, your point is nil.

[QUOTE=Kybalt;21008034]The brain does have receptors for THC, your point is nil.[/QUOTE] We named it a Cannabinoid Receptor because it was activated by Cannabinoids. That doesn't nil my point. That would be like calling the brain the headshot organ and then saying that the body evolved with headshot-vulnerability as part of the design.

[QUOTE=Cael;21008094]We named it a Cannabinoid Receptor because it was activated by Cannabinoids. That doesn't nil my point. That would be like calling the brain the headshot organ and then saying that the body evolved with headshot-vulnerability as part of the design.[/QUOTE] Whether or not the brain was designed for it, which it wasn't as humans evolved, is a moot point. What matters is if it is or isn't harmful. There isn't any evidence that pot is harmful, other then some sources pointing that it may trigger dormant psychosis, there is evidence that it is beneficial. Finally, smoking anything, is harmful as you're inhaling burning matter, however, there are other ways to ingest marijuana that are completely safe, like eating it. You have absolutely no worthy point for being against complete legalization.

Erowid begs to differ: [quote] NEGATIVE nausea, especially in combination with alcohol, some pharmaceuticals, or other psychoactives coughing, asthma, upper respiratory problems difficulty with short-term memory during effects and during periods of frequent use (Ranganathan M, D'Souza DC, Psychopharmacology, 2006) racing heart, agitation, feeling tense mild to severe anxiety panic attacks in sensitive users or with very high doses (oral use increases risk of getting too much) headaches dizziness, confusion lightheadedness or fainting (in cases of lowered blood pressure) paranoid & anxious thoughts more frequent possible psychological dependence on cannabis clumsiness, loss of coordination at high doses can precipitate or exacerbate latent or existing mental disorders HANGOVER / DAY(S) AFTER dry mouth tired, red, dry, or itchy eyes joint stiffness fatigue, drowsiness, foggy or slow thinking reduced memory skills, slower speed of recall WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS (after stopping heavy use) mild to moderate, non-life-threatening withdrawal symptoms occur after daily use in some users. Withdrawal symptoms normally last 2-4 days, up to six weeks with long term use. Severity of symptoms is related to frequency and duration of use and individual sensitivity. anhedonia (reduced experience of pleasure) headaches, general unease/discomfort difficulty sleeping desire to smoke cannabis slight loss of appetite finding non-stoned life a bit dull, increased boredom fatigue, lethargy slow thinking, talking stoned-like abstract thinking, impatience with or annoyance at linear thinking [/quote]

Calm down mother fucker's. This shit's has "supposed" to be on the ballot for the past 10 year's. It HAS been though once or twice and never went through but who knows about this time...