These people do realise that tipping isn't an issue in countries that actually pay waiters properly.
[QUOTE=Emz;36130447]I am English and always try and tip 10% if I'm able. Most people I know tip at restaurants.[/QUOTE]
Aye, same. Well, Scottish in my case.
[QUOTE=usaokay;36130358]for a price that huge, I wouldn't even pay for it.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't seem like that much at all for a nice lunch for two people, really.
Slow ass news day.
VERY slow ass news day.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;36133924]Lolno, why would people not want more money. It's just not required of you to do (usually anyways), because most if not all country's in Europe know some form of a fixed minimum wage as in you can't make less than minimum wage.[/QUOTE]
You can't make less than min wage in America either, but they decided to make it so people who work in service-tip oriented positions can, when they discovered that many servers in America would basically make double their paycheck in tips alone.
Even if you make less than min in America as a waiter, you still usually end up making much more than the min wage with your tips. Even if you didn't, the company has to make up the difference.
People just -tip- in America for services, it's apart of the culture to the point where it is expected of you to do it as well. So there's a law in place that puts the min wage for service/tip oriented jobs lower than actual min wage. Of course a company doesn't have to do this - for example, while most pizza delivery drivers make the "tip wage", the place I work for just does standard minimum wage.
A side effect of this is that many waiters/etc are very service oriented in the US - frequent refills of drinks, charming personality, trying to do their best to accomodate you without disturbing you, etc. While in Europe (I hear) the service is more basic - they aren't expected to really tend to your every need like they are in the US.
Europeans tip too, you know. It's just not a requirement for the waiters to be tipped in order to make minimum wage, and thus the tip is shared with all staff usually. I dunno what exactly you mean by tend to your every need, but I haven't had bad service yet anywhere.
Now when I come to think about it, have never really seen anyone tip at those restaurants I've been at. People just say the service was good, I've never ever seen a tip-jar, asked for tip or had the thought about doing it.
Telling the staff the service was really good seems to make them enough happy.
I'm glad the waiters and waitresses couldn't care less about tip here in Norway. I've never given any myself, nor has anyone I know. Not common at all.
I only give a tip if I either don't want to wait for my change or i'm paying by card and "add gratuity" is an option on the little machine.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;36147619]Europeans tip too, you know. It's just not a requirement for the waiters to be tipped in order to make minimum wage, and thus the tip is shared with all staff usually. I dunno what exactly you mean by tend to your every need, but I haven't had bad service yet anywhere.[/QUOTE]
I mean that I hear that waiters/waitresses in America tend to be more outgoing with service than those in Europe. I just heard it was like that from Europeans who've visted America, commenting on how much more they tend to visit the table much more frequently, ask if you need X or something out of the way, etc compared to what they were used to in Europe. I could be wrong.
maybe the service was shitty
I only tip if the service was extraordinary, that's the reason you tip in the first place. This self proclaimed scripture of restaurant etiquette is quite flawed in my opinion if it says you need to tip automatically.
The only time I've tipped was when a waiter came by and got us to guess the flavours of gelati after a really good meal. I tipped like $10 because he was a cool guy.
Also fried pumpkin flowers are crazy tasty.
[QUOTE=KorJax;36150574]I mean that I hear that waiters/waitresses in America tend to be more outgoing with service than those in Europe. I just heard it was like that from Europeans who've visted America, commenting on how much more they tend to visit the table much more frequently, ask if you need X or something out of the way, etc compared to what they were used to in Europe. I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]
Probably because it annoys the fuck out of me when waiters come and see if I need anything every few minutes. If I want a new drink, I'll ask them to come over, they won't have to ask me to spend more money, I'd consider that to be rude.
I love how retarded people get when they see someone get famous. It seems as if all they want to do is try to sabotage shit.
[QUOTE=deltasquid;36130390]Nobody even gives a shit in Italy whether you tip or not. He probably just forgot.[/QUOTE]
I'm Italian, can confirm this and I never gave a tip during my life and nobody gave a fuck about it.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;36155447]If I want a new drink, I'll ask them to come over, they won't have to ask me to spend more money, I'd consider that to be rude.[/QUOTE]
Refills are free in America. Just to explain why they'd visit the table more often for refills at least.
[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;36157235]Refills are free in America. Just to explain why they'd visit the table more often for refills at least.[/QUOTE]
Um what? Free refills?
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Refills even? I expect a new glass if I order a new drink.
Nobody should [i]ever[/i] be expected to leave a tip. That only happens if the service was good enough, and even then you shouldn't expect a tip. It's not a tip if you [i]make[/i] someone leave one.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;36157442]Um what? Free refills?
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Refills even? [U]I expect a new glass[/U] if I order a new drink.[/QUOTE]
what
why make them do more work than necessary? what's wrong with the glass you were just drinking out of?
Imo this % counting from total price is bullshit. I pay out of my ass for food but then I also have to add % for tips? Ordering a lot/expensive food becomes counter productive. But then again, tipping is not a normal thing around my parts. Only times when someone would "tip" is if the change has a lot of coins. Like if you ordered food for $7.33, you don't always take the change. But other than that no tipping as waiters are not underpaid.
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[QUOTE=teh pirate;36161094]what
why make them do more work than necessary? what's wrong with the glass you were just drinking out of?[/QUOTE]It's their job, they get paid to do their job.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;36161150]Imo this % counting from total price is bullshit. I pay out of my ass for food but then I also have to add % for tips? Ordering a lot/expensive food becomes counter productive. But then again, tipping is not a normal thing around my parts. Only times when someone would "tip" is if the change has a lot of coins. Like if you ordered food for $7.33, you don't always take the change. But other than that no tipping as waiters are not underpaid.
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It's their job, they get paid to do their job.[/QUOTE]
they don't get paid [I]more[/I] for doing the [I]same[/I] job [I]twice[/I]. don't be a prick to your servers just because the glass you were drinking out of mere seconds ago is somehow suddenly obsolete.
How the fuck is this news?
[QUOTE=teh pirate;36161094]what
why make them do more work than necessary? what's wrong with the glass you were just drinking out of?[/QUOTE]
There is a chance of saliva entering the glass, hence there is a chance of bacteria being in the glass.
[QUOTE=Coffee;36161218]There is a chance of saliva entering the glass, hence there is a chance of bacteria being in the glass.[/QUOTE]
There's saliva in your own mouth.
That said, it's no effort at all for a waiter to get you a new glass, but the expectation of that is pretty fucking snobby.
the tips are included in the price in most of Europe but you can always tip extra if you want. In North America it's expected that you tip at least ~15% of what your total was, Europe it's not really expected
at least where i live in BC most waiters/waitresses get paid less than minimum wage so they do kinda rely on tips
[QUOTE=Mlisen14;36161914]There's saliva in your own mouth.
That said, it's no effort at all for a waiter to get you a new glass, but the expectation of that is pretty fucking snobby.[/QUOTE]
I kind of expect them to do, because they do. It would just be weird if they didn't because they always do anyways, not because I absolutely want them to.
[QUOTE=Badballer;36130428]Do people tip in Europe? I thought it was only an American thing. No one tips in Australia.[/QUOTE]
My grandfather leaves a hundred dollar tips for the waiters, And im a Australian.
A hundred dollars? What the fuck.
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