BREAKING NEWS: Large Scale Terrorist Attack in France -- Multiple Explosions, Gunfire! Death toll at - Polidicks

Do we even know if the terrorists were middle eastern yet?

My heart goes out to all those in France. This is gonna fuck up all the refugee work that's been going through as well. My mate just joined the Navy as well and I guess I know what his first deployment'll be now

[QUOTE=Factemius;49111268]I'm fcuking freaking out I never felt this unsafe. It's just like Sarajevo fuck[/QUOTE] stay inside and help anyone that is on the streets. You guys gotta stay strong and united.

[QUOTE=_Axel;49111286]I'm usually an adept of non-violent resistance, but from a pragmatic standpoint, there's got to be a way to counter their mindless boner for massacre and martyrdom.[/QUOTE] Having a boner for martyrdom is a good reason why stooping to their level will not help. "Look at the cruelty he endured from the evil West, his cause must have been so noble."

[QUOTE=Jordax;49111274]Oh come on, you damn well know that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were full of civilians too. And I don't see anyone claiming that that was a genocide, and that ended the Second World War for good. Gotta thank the Yanks on that one though, since it saved countless of other lives across the still occupied zones across Asia, with countless of other civilians saved from the brink of death by famine. You lot managed with that tight grip over Japan to do away with their militarism too the following years despite nuking them twice. Of course, a nuke is fucking horrible, but really, at this point all the gloves should be off. Fuck ISIS, the sooner they are all destroyed and begging for mercy the better it is for all other Billions of people on this planet. Do you really think they will stop doing this as long they aren't destroyed yet?[/QUOTE] The middle east has been brutalized far more than Japan ever was. The difference is that the Japanese cared, and these death cultists don't. They savage their own homeland. They destroy their own history. It doesn't matter to them. They're driven by religious zeal, not self interest.

I will never really understand the reasons why they do this shit. Bored? Attention? What's the fucking message you lowlifes, gotta accomplish something by doing this, right?

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49111290]You know those situations and this one are completely incomparable. You're grabbing at straws out of desperation. If you can't look at the situation rationally you'll never be able to address it. You'll just get more innocent people killed in the name of your blind determination.[/QUOTE] They aren't completely incomparable at all. And honestly I don't think you could do much to get more innocent people killed. I mean what's your proposal, let ISIS take over the entire middle east and continue sending over agents to act out terrorists attacks? Do you actually think that's a better solution?

[QUOTE=Wormy;49111313]There are no confirmed reports of that yet to my knowledge.[/QUOTE] Good to see facepunch is at it again

[QUOTE=KillRay;49111301]Do we even know if the terrorists were middle eastern yet?[/QUOTE] It's just a predictable assumption based on recent trends.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;49111254]There'll always be some conflict to some degree, but you can always take measures to limit it instead of just letting it go to complete shit. I mean do you honestly think just leaving ISIS to it's own devices will really make things better than actually attempting to tackle them? They're already performing massive terrorist attacks and they're getting bolder every year.[/QUOTE] Correct me if I'm wrong, but for every major mistake made in a ground invasion, does that not just aid to warmongering, propaganda riddled, middle eastern extremism? This is the definition of a catch 22. Every time we leave, an even more evil and screwed up monster usurps power. At this point, war fatigue is being felt by all countries involved in the earlier invasions. Liberal government in the U.S. pulled out troops way too fast and left a power vacuum. It's easy to say "It won't be as chaotic." But we all collectively thought that last go around. If this could be stopped I'd be jumping up and down for such solution, but I simply don't see a viable means to do it short of nuclear annihilation.

[QUOTE=KillRay;49111301]Do we even know if the terrorists were middle eastern yet?[/QUOTE] Confirmed suicide bombing but only rumors of beheadings, "Allahu Ackbar" and "This is for Syria"

The only evidence we have to who they are is them screaming Allah Ackbar and "this is for syria" Paris and US apparently know, but they arn't saying who yet.

[QUOTE=KillRay;49111301]Do we even know if the terrorists were middle eastern yet?[/QUOTE] I'm willing to bet my house on them being from a certain religion.

I'd stay out of any major European capital if I were any of you. If it's happening Paris it could happen in London or Berlin right now.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;49111306]Having a boner for martyrdom is a good reason why stooping to their level will not help. "Look at the cruelty he endured from the evil West, his cause must have been so noble."[/QUOTE] That's why I thought of humiliation as an alternative. But I guess they'd find a way to make it honorable somehow. [editline]14th November 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=RichyZ;49111324]Multiculturalism will bring an end to the world as we know it. Just you see.[/QUOTE] Please stop with those ironic shitposts. That goes for others too.

[QUOTE=_Axel;49111270]Well sure but then what? Try to placate them?[/QUOTE] A high ranking (can't remember exact rank) British official said in a documentary on Iraq/Afghanistan saying that if the Americans hadn't been so set on killing Bin Laden, and had instead worked with friendly Afghans, they could have made some progress, but between the subsequent splitting of funding between Afghanistan and Iraq, and the lack of American intent to really invest in helping normal Afghans, we basically just made them hopeful then left them back.

[QUOTE=Incoming.;49111322]Correct me if I'm wrong, but for every major mistake made in a ground invasion, does that not just aid to warmongering, propaganda riddled, middle eastern extremism? This is the definition of a catch 22. Every time we leave, an even more evil and screwed up monster usurps power. At this point, war fatigue is being felt by all countries involved in the earlier invasions. Liberal government in the U.S. pulled out troops way too fast and left a power vacuum. It's easy to say "It won't be as chaotic." But we all collectively thought that last go around. If this could be stopped I'd be jumping up and down for such solution, but I simply don't see a viable means to do it short of nuclear annihilation.[/QUOTE] Well that's the problem, they pulled out in the middle of a power vacuum. Plenty of military higher ups said pulling out would be a disaster, but they did it any way to appease the American public instead of letting the professionals do their job.

[QUOTE]ANP reports that there were also reports of shooting at the Louvre, rue de la Fontaine au roi en rue de Charenton.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=_Axel;49111334]That's why I thought of humiliation as an alternative. But I guess they'd find a way to make it honorable somehow.[/QUOTE] War is like trolling with deadly pointy things. The goal is to goad the enemy into doing what you want. If the suspects are Islamic, and your reacting this way, they won.

Does France not have a policy where as soon as hostages are harmed = raid?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;49111316]They aren't completely incomparable at all. And honestly I don't think you could do much to get more innocent people killed. I mean what's your proposal, let ISIS take over the entire middle east and continue sending over agents to act out terrorists attacks? Do you actually think that's a better solution?[/QUOTE] I don't think either is a solution. I don't know if there is a solution. But I'm not going to demand that my countrymen be sent out to die in vain just to quench my own frustration.

This isn't going to end well

[QUOTE]US counter-terror officials tell NBC News that Paris attacks bear hallmarks of al-Qaeda, but also not ruling out ISIS[/QUOTE] EDIT: !!!!!!!5 EXPLOSIONS AT BATACLAN!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=_Axel;49111334]That's why I thought of humiliation as an alternative. But I guess they'd find a way to make it honorable somehow. [/QUOTE] Given how IS does believe in that they go to hell if killed by a woman, that doesn't seem so hard. Just make sure that they believe in that they will go to hell instead of getting their 72 virgins. And seeing how fundamentalist they are, it seems as easy as forcefeeding them pork.

Are guns easier to obtain in France than the UK?

[QUOTE=Yahnich;49111346]i'm so glad i have to be in brussel, the capital of europe every day, this is very neat and not scary at all[/QUOTE] Belgium is strange in that terorrists are not really interested despite it being the seat of Europe

[QUOTE=RichyZ;49111341]Where was I being ironic? That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.[/QUOTE] Fucking disgusting.

[QUOTE=Antlerp;49111331]I'd stay out of any major European capital if I were any of you. If it's happening Paris it could happen in London or Berlin right now.[/QUOTE] You're right, but we're the one who fought in Mali and bombed Syria. Also the UK is an Island...

Five new explosions at the concert hall. [quote]fox news : you can hear gunshots from the concert hall, and people are reporting hearing automatic weapons outside the stadium[/quote]

[QUOTE=Jordax;49111354]Given how IS does believe in that they go to hell if killed by a woman, that doesn't seem so hard. Just make sure that they believe in that they will go to hell instead of getting their 72 virgins. And seeing how fundamentalist they are, it seems as easy as forcefeeding them pork.[/QUOTE] Seeing as they already break many core tenets of Islam, they'll probably change them to their own convenience.