BREAKING NEWS: Large Scale Terrorist Attack in France -- Multiple Explosions, Gunfire! Death toll at

[sa2fan]

[QUOTE=Archimedes;49112101]I'm sorry. My french is clearly very and emberassingly rusty. I've removed it.[/QUOTE]

if it involves many people, vous êtes mes amis would be correct, when it's one guy tu es mon ami is correct

[Noobaxe]

If anyone is nearby and wants to tell people they are safe

[URL="https://www.facebook.com/safetycheck/paris_terror_attacks"]https://www.facebook.com/safetycheck/paris_terror_attacks[/URL]

[ExtReMLapin]

[QUOTE=Egonny;49112095][url=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:[url]http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-1-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=5HNGVvryOoTyaOKZo7AP]Posted[/url] last year on a French forum[/url], what the fuck

and then last week [url=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:[url]http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-4-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=5HNGVvryOoTyaOKZo7AP]the[/url] thread gets bumped[/url] with[/QUOTE]

It's JVC dude, everyone post shit 24/24.

It's like telling shit the entire day and two years later saying "I TOLD YOU, I WAS RIGHT".

[Scot]

[IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/tGHx9A.jpg[/IMG]

[DrLuke]

[QUOTE=soullink;49112099]i was supposed to be there but had to refund my ticket this afternoon and i don't even have a word to describe how i feel right now[/QUOTE]

I'm glad you're safe

[danjee]

-snip-

[AxeI]

[QUOTE=sa2fan;49112126]if it involves many people, vous êtes mes amis would be correct, [I]when it's one guy tu es mon ami is correct[/I][/QUOTE]
Still phonetically sounds like "kill my friend" though.

[Naitomere]

I just woke up and read this. Wow.

[sir whoopsalot]

Jeb Bush opens his stupid mouth:

[url]http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jeb-bush-paris-attacks-war[/url]

[Shotz]

[url]http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/13/paris_shooting_early_photos_after_coordinated_attacks.html[/url]

Some photos posted

[sa2fan]

[QUOTE=_Axel;49112138]Still phonetically sounds like "kill my friend" though.[/QUOTE]

i know

so id pronounce it tuè instead of tué

[The DooD]

This seems comparable (or worse) to 7/7 London bombings.

[ccg]

[QUOTE=Egonny;49112095][url=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:[url]http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-1-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=5HNGVvryOoTyaOKZo7AP]Posted[/url] last year on a French forum[/url], what the fuck

and then last week [url=http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:[url]http://www.jeuxvideo.com/forums/1-50-171272235-4-0-1-0-attentats-le-13-novembre.htm&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=5HNGVvryOoTyaOKZo7AP]the[/url] thread gets bumped[/url] with[/QUOTE]

Lol what the fuck

[anOKcode]

[QUOTE=Scot;49112133][IMG]http://i.cubeupload.com/tGHx9A.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

He's a famous football player, Martin Kelly. Ex-Liverpool now playing for Crystal Palace, still no word from him right now. :c

[spkypwnsuall]

With these forum posts, not sure if planned or in retaliation for the supposed missile strike on the "Jihadi John" from yesterday.

Heart is with all those affected and those stuck in the middle of the mess.

[AxeI]

[QUOTE=sa2fan;49112153]i know[/QUOTE]
Was just pointing it out for non-French people.

[Native Hunter]

Stay Strong Paris

[Saturn V]

i feel pretty fucking bad

[sir whoopsalot]

Belgian borders not closed, it's a Twitter hoax.

[Lt_C]

This is horrible, my heart goes out to anyone impacted by these attacks.

[fear me]

[QUOTE=Saturn V;49112166]i feel pretty fucking bad[/QUOTE]

yeah this doesn't sit well for me to say the least

i'm still waiting for the silent stress response to wear off so i can start crying

[cinoisP]

An old friend currently is in Paris, and hasn't been on steam for a while. Really hope they're safe

[Warriorx4]

The question has been asked, but no answer. What happened in the interim between the announcement that hostages were being executed and the French police moving in? Feels like a lot of people didn't have to die, but maybe I'm just being ignorant to French police procedures.

[Cutthecrap]

[QUOTE=joshuadim;49111733]How else is someone supposed to feel WHEN THEY LOST A FAMILY MEMBER TO THESE BARBARIANS.[/QUOTE]

Ok

Let me explain all of Facepunch why calling them barbarians or savages is just plain retarded and does nothing to help change the mindset regarding middle east.

When you call them barbarians, you are just creating a cultural and moral distance between you and them. This, in fact, is dehumanizing the enemy.

By you, I'm saying "[I]The united states of America"[/I]

And by them, I'm saying [I]"Everyone who's from middle east or a Muslim"[/I]

Before the following answer is typed: [B]"lul wt. Are you retarded? By barbarians I mean only those affiliated with ISIS and Al Qaeda"[/B]

Don't and never forget that, when people are enraged and pissed off at the fact their state has failed to protect them, will they stop to think and differentiate who is who? If experience and history tells us anything, WW2, Vietnam and Iraq all are the evidence that affirms the opposite.

[B]Surprise, any 19 year old in the US right now is capable of doing the same shit that was done today. German unarmed POW were blatantly shot on sight because GIs were enraged.
[/B][B]Vietnamese children and women were massacred just because some guys were pissed off at their favourite sergeant being killed by a booby trap.
Iraqi prisoners were tortured and humiliated by being treated like pigs because years ago a couple of fanatics decided to make the worst terrorist attack in history.
[/B]
Of course, if you dehumanize them, you are gaining a giant big badass double edged sword:

It will allow you to easily target and attack those responsible for the attacks. No one will doubt about that task and it will be totally carried out. The most -probably- retarded president in all of US modern history, got a 90% approval by just invading a foreign nation and playing the drums.

And you obtain the worst, possible, retarded defect you can: Soldiers and those engaged in the war WONT give a fuck when it comes down to discriminating and telling who's who and WONT try to fraternize and help the locals, who they will suspect are supporting the Islamic warrios.

All those who say "Invade Syria. Bring down the responsible. Etc etc" haven't just read a fucking single book about Rhodesia, Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan.

[B]When an ideological warfare, at the guerrilla level, in this case which is what we saw today, is waged, the solutions are far from being the military ones.
[/B]Rhodesian Selous Scouts and Light Infantry won all their battles and had a 10 killed to 1 casualty ratio against the enemy.
Robert Mugabe ended up winning the struggle in the long run.
The US had almost 60k dead in the Vietnam war. By the contrary, a sum of Vietcong and NVA losses amounts to almost 1 million....that's more than 10 to 1 ratio....We all know how it ended up.

[B]And why? Why? Because, ideological warfare, is just that, a warfare of ideas, and you just don't shoot at ideas, don't you? At the end of the day, a x number of bodies doesn't equate that idea being vanquished.[/B]

There's only two ways to end ideological warfare:
One, is killing all those who are involved or could be involved in the opposing faction. Argentina did this to great success in the 1976 operations against guerrilla groups, namely the ERP and Montoneros. Sadly, the dehumanizing factor kicked in in the ideological flavour, and almost 3x the innocent people fell in the raids and searches for the guerrillas.

Which leads us to to the other solution: Defeating the idea in a idea vs idea warfare.

This means: State building. And I mean real state building. Just like the US and Soviets did with Europe post WW2 because they knew that if they failed with one country, it would quickly switch sides.

Not throwing money blindly away, and not giving a fuck about the cultural issues of the country at hand, allowing police chiefs to keep raping women/children and doing as he pleases.

Stop using a language that dehumanizes the enemy.

Trying to understand the problem as a economic and political one (RAND corporation study: Politics finish guerrilla wars faster, more than military operations do) which causes an ideological fanaticism, rather than the other way around

[B][I][U]I apologize if this was too long. But this is an issue that we can't expect to treat in 2 paragraphs.[/U][/I][/B]

[TheTalon]

[QUOTE=spkypwnsuall;49112163]With these forum posts, not sure if planned or in retaliation for the supposed missile strike on the "Jihadi John" from yesterday.

Heart is with all those affected and those stuck in the middle of the mess.[/QUOTE]

Not retaliation for Jihad John. That would mean ISIS is faster at coordinating assaults than the damn French Police

[wasteyboi]

The reports on the bataclan are just fucking awful. complete atrocity

[Zoran]

Why would people do this? These people just wanted to have fun at concerts and places, and now they're dead. It's so fucked up. It makes me so mad.

[Saturn V]

that fucking video with the gunshots and explosions was fucking horrible man

[Scot]

another
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[1nfiniteseed]

[QUOTE=spkypwnsuall;49112163]With these forum posts, not sure if planned or in retaliation for the supposed missile strike on the "Jihadi John" from yesterday.

Heart is with all those affected and those stuck in the middle of the mess.[/QUOTE]

An attack of this scale couldn't be planned and executed in 24 hours, if was likely planned ahead of time.