BREAKING NEWS: Large Scale Terrorist Attack in France -- Multiple Explosions, Gunfire! Death toll at - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;49112821]I bet these terrorists got into Europe by masquerading as Syrian refugees.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I'd be extremely surprised if they didn't take advantage of the mass exodus of people into Europe.

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[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;49112816]"Unfounded" my ass [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ohlarw7.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] Right...so in Gaza where worst case scenario 38% of them don't believe in suicide bombings, and besides that more than half don't. How is that helping your case when more than half of all Muslims don't support radical actions like that?

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;49112821]I bet these terrorists got into Europe by masquerading as Syrian refugees.[/QUOTE] Who would've thought, we better not close the borders though cos that would be racist.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;49112795]Except they're not. I provided a reputable source (Pew Research)[/QUOTE] uhh, so? You can use a reputable source and still grasp it in a way Ben Shapiro did, twisting or interpreting and making more than 500 million people 'radicalized' (what even the fuck is 'radicalized' and how does it equate to anything close to actual dangerous extremism?) and somehow use that as an argument to generalize an extremely large group of people. That's not cool

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;49112771]Listen up: There are over a billion Muslims in the world. Terrorists are motivated. If all or even a significant portion of Muslims were terrorists - the entire earth would be currently [U]very literally[/U] living in a post-nuclear sharia hellhole. But that's not the case, so shut up.[/QUOTE] tbh, it would be far more likely for the middle east to be a nuclear wasteland, but your point remains.

[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;49112831][img]http://i.imgur.com/z4klZL2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Finally,someone making sense.

[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;49112831][img]http://i.imgur.com/z4klZL2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] I'm content pointing my fingers at the people that did this.

[QUOTE=killerteacup;49112786][URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_towards_terrorism[/URL] You should read statistics before running your mouth. Older men are much less likely to be extremist than 16-24 year olds. Also you might notice that statistics above show that the countries with the four largest muslim populations all oppose extremism with a huge majority, statistics taken solely from muslims in that country[/QUOTE] Your own referencing of Wikipedia seems pretty damning however that a significant portion of Muslims do in fact condone violence in some way or another. From the article you decided to reference. [QUOTE=Wikipedia] In a 2007 Pew Research poll in response to a question on whether suicide bombing and other forms of violence against civilian targets to defend Islam could be justified,[27] in Europe: 64% of Muslims in France believed it could never be justified, 19% believed it could be justified rarely, 10% sometimes, and 6% thought it could be justified often. 70% of Muslims in Britain believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 12% sometimes, and 3% thought it could be justified often. 83% of Muslims in Germany believed it could never be justified, 6% believed it could be justified rarely, 6% sometimes, and 1% thought it could be justified often. 69% of Muslims in Spain believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 10% sometimes, and 6% thought it could be justified often. In mainly Muslim countries: 45% of Muslims in Egypt believed it could never be justified, 25% believed it could be justified rarely, 20% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often. 61% of Muslims in Turkey believed it could never be justified, 9% believed it could be justified rarely, 14% sometimes, and 3% thought it could be justified often. 43% of Muslims in Jordan believed it could never be justified, 28% believed it could be justified rarely, 24% sometimes, and 5% thought it could be justified often. 28% of Muslims in Nigeria believed it could never be justified, 23% believed it could be justified rarely, 38% sometimes, and 8% thought it could be justified often. 69% of Muslims in Pakistan believed it could never be justified, 8% believed it could be justified rarely, 7% sometimes, and 7% thought it could be justified often. 71% of Muslims in Indonesia believed it could never be justified, 18% believed it could be justified rarely, 8% sometimes, and 2% thought it could be justified often. A 2010 Zogby poll reported that 69% of American Muslims supported stronger laws to fight terrorism.[29] A 2013 Pew Research Center poll asked Muslims around the world whether attacks on civilians were justified. Globally 72% of Muslims said violence against civilians is never justified, and in the US, 81% of Muslims opposed such violence. About 14% of Muslims in the nations surveyed (and 8% of Muslims in the US) said violence against civilians is "often" or "sometimes" justified. 26% of Muslims in Bangladesh believe attacks are either somewhat justified or often justified, 18% in Malaysia, 7% in Iraq, 15% in Jordan, 29% in Egypt, 39% in Afghanistan and 40% in the Palestinian territories.[30][31][32] The survey did not include some Muslim nations, such as Iran, Saudi Arabia, Algeria, Yemen, Syria, and Libya, but did include densely populated Muslim countries such as Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt, Nigeria and Indonesia.[33] According to a 2007 poll conducted by the PolicyExchange think tank in Britain, nearly 60% said they would prefer to live under British law, while 37% of 16- to 24-year-olds said they would prefer sharia law, against 17% of those over 55. Also, 36%[34] of 16- to 24-year-olds British Muslims believed that those converting to another religion should be executed. Less than a fifth of those over 55 think so.[/quote] Now I don't know about you. But those are some pretty significant portions of the population. You can go ahead and claim the majority is against such acts. But when almost a quarter of the population based on your source is cool with this kind of shit. There is a problem somewhere in their ideology.

[QUOTE=Cocacoladude;49112794]They are founded though. The action of a few people is enough to paint the majority as bad.[/QUOTE] Can I have a ban exemption for flaming please

By the way, 59% of Brits believe the Empire and it's history is something to be proud of while 19% believe it's something to be ashamed of, the rest don't know how to answer the question. Going by the logic SomeRandomGuy19 is using, most Brits are Imperialist scum who are incompatible with modern democracy, simply because of a bad opinion most of the country hold.

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;49112835]Right...so in Gaza where worst case scenario 38% of them don't believe in suicide bombings, and besides that more than half don't. How is that helping your case when more than half of all Muslims don't support radical actions like that?[/QUOTE] The only acceptable answer to that question is "never." You would invite people into your country who think it's sometimes okay to suicide bomb innocents in the name of Islam? You are insane

[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;49112831][img]http://i.imgur.com/z4klZL2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Yet somehow it is always Islam related stuff...

[QUOTE=Mooe94;49112838]uhh, so? You can use a reputable source and still grasp it in a way Ben Shapiro did, twisting or interpreting and making more than 500 million people 'radicalized' (what even the fuck is 'radicalized' and how does it equate to anything close to actual dangerous extremism?) and somehow use that as an argument to generalize an extremely large group of people. That's not cool[/QUOTE] do you think that people who support killing women in the name of honor aren't "radical"? I mean you're well within you're rights to think that way, but surely you could at least understand why someone would disagree?

[QUOTE=Maloof?;49112848]Can I have a ban exemption for flaming please[/QUOTE] You misinterpret my statement as me saying that this hate towards Muslims is acceptable. At no point have I said it is ok. It is not ok But it is completely understandable.

[QUOTE=Dawnkiller;49112798]Holy shit there's a lot of delusional motherfuckers in here. Stop painting all Muslims under the same brush.[/QUOTE] I agree, I've met some very nice ones in my time, the hate comes from the fact that it is literally the most evil organization that could exist right now, it centers on the basis of Islam religion. What people don't know is that Islams fight each other over ethics, some are attempting to stand strong against those who terrorize others who don't agree with their beliefs, infact many are. What happened today was a fucking attrocity, May God rest the souls of those who lost their lives, may the survivors stay strong and become living prodigy from the trauma and horrible scenes they observed, may the end of this day bring a new light to humanity as a whole. I pray to The Great Spirit that our species learns true values very soon, I hope the extremists are abolished and those who live by their sacred holy values may one day pray together in harmony with the positive energy of this earth. I guess I'm done with this thread tonight, damn, this shit makes me depressed.

[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;49112831][img]http://i.imgur.com/z4klZL2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] That's all well and fucking great but what if you're sitting outside a restaurant and suddenly you're gunned down in the middle of the street by an automatic rifle, or going to see a concert in safe old Europe and on that same night you're executed viciously. The solution is to remove the [B]people [/B]doing this. Grow the fuck up.

[QUOTE=Mooe94;49112838]uhh, so? You can use a reputable source and still grasp it in a way Ben Shapiro did, twisting or interpreting and making more than 500 million people 'radicalized' (what even the fuck is 'radicalized' and how does it equate to anything close to actual dangerous extremism?) and somehow use that as an argument to generalize an extremely large group of people. That's not cool[/QUOTE] Honestly though, a minority in a population of 1.6 billion people doesn't mean shit. Even if only 1% of Muslims hold those views on suicide bombing, then 16 million muslim people are radicalized. Sadly the actual percentages are way higher.

[QUOTE=Nicolas;49112857]Yet somehow it is always Islam related stuff...[/QUOTE] Have you forgot that not ALL terrorists are islamists?

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;49112680]When was the last time you saw a radical buddhist shooting up Paris? [video=youtube;mpy7R2MM6ng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpy7R2MM6ng[/video][/QUOTE] I'm sorry, what? Blaming the United States for 9/11 is not equivocable with radicalism?

[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;49112831][img]http://i.imgur.com/z4klZL2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] A solution [i]fixes[/i] a problem, but what will [b]remove[/b] a problem? Latest South Park episode is deadly fucking accurate about this issue.

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy18;49112855]The only acceptable answer to that question is "never." You would invite people into your country who think it's sometimes okay to suicide bomb innocents in the name of Islam? You are insane[/QUOTE] Wow 100% of people didn't answer never so the religion should be considered a crime against humanity itself. Nevermind the fact that Americans are susceptible to the same stupid poll taking where iirc a quarter of them still thought the earth was at the center of the solar system or some dumb percent. Maybe we should ban those Americans from America because who would allow such stupid people into the country.

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49112853]By the way, 59% of Brits believe the Empire and it's history is something to be proud of while 19% believe it's something to be ashamed of, the rest don't know how to answer the question. Going by the logic SomeRandomGuy19 is using, most Brits are Imperialist scum who are incompatible with modern democracy, simply because of a bad opinion most of the country hold.[/QUOTE] There's a difference between saying "I'm proud of the British empire and it's history" and saying "I'm proud of the british empire subjugating native populations and exploiting them for commercial gain". If it were the latter statement people were agreeing with I think you'd probably be quite justified in being uncomfortable with the british people.

[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49112863]That's all well and fucking great but what if you're sitting outside a restaurant and suddenly you're gunned down in the middle of the street by an automatic rifle, or going to see a concert in safe old Europe and on that same night you're executed viciously. The solution is to remove the [B]people [/B]doing this. Grow the fuck up.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure he meant every person apart of that religion and not the ones involved in this. The ones that are involved deserve everything they'll get.

[QUOTE=The Party Spy;49112842]I'm content pointing my fingers at the people that did this.[/QUOTE] Yeah. This guy is also an idiot. How does the people that say they do what they do because of the infallable word of [B]GOD[/B] tells them to do so have nothing to do with their religion?

I don't think it's about religion so much as it is a lack of proper educational systems. The Bible says a lot of stupid shit and there are definitely people who follow those words a little too closely, but thanks to western education being as good as it is (which is a whole other can of worms, but regardless) radical Christianity isn't an issue comparable to radical Islam Just some food for thought

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;49112871]Wow 100% of people didn't answer never so the religion should be considered a crime against humanity itself. Nevermind the fact that Americans are susceptible to the same stupid poll taking where iirc a quarter of them still thought the earth was at the center of the solar system or some dumb percent. Maybe we should ban those Americans from America because who would allow such stupid people into the country.[/QUOTE] Resorting to saying well if thats ok then so is this is not a good argument. Just sayin'

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;49112871]Wow 100% of people didn't answer never so the religion should be considered a crime against humanity itself. Nevermind the fact that Americans are susceptible to the same stupid poll taking where iirc a quarter of them still thought the earth was at the center of the solar system or some dumb percent. Maybe we should ban those Americans from America because who would allow such stupid people into the country.[/QUOTE] I don't think even 5% of American christians would support suicide bombing in the name of Jesus. You're free to prove me wrong, but so far it seems you're deep in denial about the fact that Islam is THE most radicalized religion on Earth at the moment

[QUOTE=ClauAmericano;49112874]Pretty sure he meant every person apart of that religion and not the ones involved in this. The ones that are involved deserve everything they'll get.[/QUOTE] Maybe, but I think as of tonight it's gone too for for us to fight this with "love". This can't happen again in Europe and a lot of people look really naive posting shit like that

[QUOTE=Sgt.Kickass;49112866]Have you forgot that not ALL terrorists are islamists?[/QUOTE] He's right though, most modern terrorist attacks are related to Islam. You don't need to spit out every time someone makes a point you don't like.