• BREAKING NEWS: Large Scale Terrorist Attack in France -- Multiple Explosions, Gunfire! Death toll at
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is france closing its borders?
[QUOTE=Glitchman;49111056]You can say it's not Muslims but extremism, but it would be foolish to say that the religious AND political climate of the middle east does not breed extremism that feeds off the Islamic religion. Basically, bad people will latch onto religious ideas in order to gain more support for their hateful causes, which gets to a point where they truly believe they are doing good.[/QUOTE] Of course but there's methods to deal with this, most times these people are lonely and want their life to mean something, so when someone comes around breaching hate speech but putting it under the guise that it's what god intends, then people will latch on This can be solved by giving these people mental health care, that's what I believe anyway, not a brain full of bullets
François Hollande announced that the borders would be closed.
[QUOTE=Jordax;49111080]Yeah, and that is what you guys didn't do sufficiently enough before pulling out of Afghanistan and Iraq. The reason why Germany and Japan never rose in military power again after the Second World War, is because the Allies completely destroyed them and everything they stood for and kept a very tight grip on them for a long while after the war. That didn't happen at all in Afghanistan and Iraq. And look where that got us now.[/QUOTE] Exactly, we kept a tight grip with germany and japan, same as we need to do with ISIS. I don't think we should have gotten rid of Saddam, but now that hes gone this is the only way to stop ISIS like organisations
[QUOTE=Ishwoo;49111089]In Christian however instead of killing you they will damn you to eternal hellfire.[/QUOTE] You don't know what you are talking about and it's got nothing to do with terrorism, we don't even know the official motives of these attacks yet.
[QUOTE=std DONOR;49111077]You need something more solid than reasoning, like lead.[/QUOTE] You can't power through Teutoburg.
Not sure if it's been posted but there's a live update on reddit: [url]https://www.reddit.com/live/vwwmdb26t78v[/url]
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;49111074]ISIS is also a structured organisation, it's literally a fucking state. The reason they're able to coordinate so well is because of their state like organisation.[/QUOTE] If you killed the leaders of ISIS, more leaders would come to replace them. Just as they themselves replaced the leaders we killed in the Iraq war. There is no Hitler of Islamic Extremism. There is no Islamic Extremist HQ. Russia has tried before, Israel has tried before, we've tried before, and none of us have been successful. I doubt another attempt would prove more fruitful.
Where on earth are the NSA and GCHQ at times like this? Isn't stopping exactly this kind of thing from happening part of their job description?
[QUOTE=amorax;49111117]Where on earth are the NSA and GCHQ at times like this? Isn't stopping exactly this kind of thing from happening part of their job description?[/QUOTE] They're deluged with so much data that they're never going to be able to pick out real threats
[QUOTE=logokiller;49111068]Obama on Paris attacks: "We will bring terrorists to justice."[/QUOTE] Oh really? The average Islamist believes that he will go to heaven and Jihad is one way to secure that as soon as possible. They don't fear death, that's exactly what they want. Good luck bringing them to "justice" after they already get what they exactly want.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49111113]If you killed the leaders of ISIS, more leaders would come to replace them. Just as they themselves replaced the leaders we killed in the Iraq war. There is no Hitler of Islamic Extremism. There is no Islamic Extremist HQ. Russia has tried before, Israel has tried before, we've tried before, and none of us have been successful. I doubt another attempt would prove more fruitful.[/QUOTE] Leaders might rise up, but with a full on intervention they'll never get to be as powerful as they are now, theyll be little splinter groups that'll be very little threat.
[QUOTE=Xubs;49111115]how do we identify who does and does not need mental health and how do we force them to get mental help if they don't want mental help, they're not going to get it. It's why depression is such a burden on the medical system -- depressed people don't seek help and thus never get it. How do we identify who needs help with these issues and how do we get them that help?[/QUOTE] If someone is willing to open fire on a concert full of people or blow themselves up, I doubt they'd accept any help you offered. They don't need you to make them feel better, they get enough comfort from their death cult.
[QUOTE=amorax;49111117]Where on earth are the NSA and GCHQ at times like this? Isn't stopping exactly this kind of thing from happening part of their job description?[/QUOTE] NSA programs collect data and it tries to pick out potential threats, if these people who have committed the attack in Paris haven't been involved in suspicious activity, there's no way to prevent this.
[QUOTE=Thom12255;49111108]You don't know what you are talking about and it's got nothing to do with terrorism, we don't even know the official motives of these attacks yet.[/QUOTE] True, I don't. However declaring allah ackbar before an attack suggests its either a massive troll or a religion-based attacked. If you deny this then unfortunately you are being too naive and you need to realise that people can be brainwashed into doing disgusting things simply because they are told to or because its for the good of the mass.
I hope the people of France do not get overwhelmed by the far-right because an event like this [b]will[/b] stir up nasty types of people as we are seeing these kinds of people posting here.
[B][I]they now have reports the hostages in the concert theater were all shot one by one....per FOX....this is not yet confirmed @JuliaDavisNews: UPDATE: Bataclan hostages communicate on social media, report being slaughtered "one by one." #Paris CNN reporting they are killing the hostages one by one! Hollande just declared a NATIONAL STATE OF EMERGENCY... [/I][/B] 2001 re run again?
Holy shit
The reddit live coverage of the tragedy has exploded: [URL]https://www.reddit.com/live/vwwmdb26t78v[/URL] I'm praying for the hostages... [quote]The reported 100 hostages inside the Bataclan are being slaughtered one by one with a shotgun for over an hour, according to various reports.[/quote] Man, fuck this, I'm so pissed off...
Dammit, not again. :cry: My thoughts go out to the victims and their families. What irks me to no end is that despite all the disclosures of mass surveillance in Europe and the USA, those programs didn't see this attack coming. I hope the police kill the bastards behind this, as they don't deserve even an arraignment hearing in my book.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;49111126]Leaders might rise up, but with a full on intervention they'll never get to be as powerful as they are now, theyll be little splinter groups that'll be very little threat.[/QUOTE] There are no local forces that are willing or able to suppress militant extremist factions. If we can't find one, the moment we leave they'll just set up shop again and continue on with business as usual. Alternately, we just stay there forever, slowly losing through attrition as insurgents slash and burn their own homeland to sabotage our efforts.
Was only a matter of time until something like this happened, unfortunately. Two major terrorist attacks in a year, that's not really a good record for France.
This shit is sureal The thought of them opening fire into a crowd, and screams and pools of blood.... What is this shit?...
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49111143]There are no local forces that are willing or able to suppress militant extremist factions. If we can't find one, the moment we leave they'll just set up shop again and continue on with business as usual. Alternately, we just stay there forever, slowly losing through attrition as insurgents slash and burn their own homeland to sabotage our efforts.[/QUOTE] If you stay long enough they'll give up eventually when they realise it's a fight they can't win and the people will get tired. The problem is the US left while the fires were still hot.
holy shit this could be the second 9/11 My thoughts go out to the victims
What a fucking nightmare
Totally what I needed after a shitty week. This world is fucked.
[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;49111135][B][I]they now have reports the hostages in the concert theater were all shot one by one....per FOX....this is not yet confirmed @JuliaDavisNews: UPDATE: Bataclan hostages communicate on social media, report being slaughtered "one by one." #Paris CNN reporting they are killing the hostages one by one! Hollande just declared a NATIONAL STATE OF EMERGENCY... [/I][/B] 2001 re run again?[/QUOTE] Quick. Someone check for dancing Jews in a van with coincidental symbolism of relation to this event.
Mother of fucking God The political implications this event will have....One thing was to have EEUU attacked on its own soil. Europeans must haven't felt that unsafe. But fuck, this? Not only France will feel unsafe now, but all the whole European community will do. The fact their Intelligence services haven't been able to catch this coming and defuse the multiple attacks will make people feel like they can be attacked everywhere.... Atocha, the London bombings and Charlie Hebdo are kids play compared to this.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49111113]If you killed the leaders of ISIS, more leaders would come to replace them. Just as they themselves replaced the leaders we killed in the Iraq war. There is no Hitler of Islamic Extremism. There is no Islamic Extremist HQ. Russia has tried before, Israel has tried before, we've tried before, and none of us have been successful. I doubt another attempt would prove more fruitful.[/QUOTE] Al-Baghdadi isn't dead yet, so we don't even know if that would hold any water. So far, his second-in-command and thirds-in-command have been killed multiple times, and I bet it would be harder to for them replace their leader when the sick fuck finally gets dropped a heavy enough bomb down his inbred face. Hell, I would applaud it if they just nuke the bastard off the face of the Earth, as long he stays fucking dead instead of getting wounded again.
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