0x10c (Minecraft in Space) to be Monthly Subscription Based - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zeos;38653867]Uh, no, you're actually not reading. No game should be pay2play anymore, we've had the rise of Free2Play games prove that this is irrelevant. Have a flat fee, or have a cosmetic item shop, but don't you dare try to say that server costs are high, considering that we've seen the costs of major companies spend to host MMOs, where in a lot of the cases, the server costs are probably the lowest cost to them.[/QUOTE] Free to play is fucking awful. Just give it the hell up already. You can probably count the decent implementations of a free to play model on one hand with a library of terrible implementations on the other.

[QUOTE=Tudd;38653883]That is not what were saying. It is pretty easy to tell this game doesn't deserve a monthly subscription from us. While it is a beta, there is no way it will develop into such a game, especially since most MMOs are F2P now. Hell, Planetside 2 is F2P and look at how much production is put into that. A low cost purchase like Minecraft is reasonable.[/QUOTE] Eh. I wouldn't call it low cost. It was low cost till release, but 30 bucks is a bit much.

Its over, Mojang is finished.

[QUOTE=GunFox;38654035]Free to play is fucking awful. Just give it the hell up already. You can probably count the decent implementations of a free to play model on one hand with a library of terrible implementations on the other.[/QUOTE] You just reminded me of TOR and now I'm sad.

iirc the subscription was for using the mmoworld if you are playing single player [editline]30th November 2012[/editline] its free

I don't understand why people are mad. if you don't want to pay for it then dont, host your own damn sever like everyone does on mine-craft anyways.

MMO is subscription because of the server costs of running all shipboard computers 24/7. Multiplayer is free, you can host your own servers. Singleplayer is free, you can play on your local PC. And I don't really get how it's 90s graphics, its the same sort of complaint as complaining about Cortex Command. [IMG]http://0x10c.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/6bUlp.jpeg[/IMG] I really like the art style.

Here comes the notch hate bandwagon

[QUOTE=Ermac20;38654310]Here comes the notch hate bandwagon[/QUOTE] It's not like some of the criticism is unwarranted.

[QUOTE=Noss;38653725]Why are you complaining about this? This is how all decent MMOs function - he needs to pay for server costs. Its better than Pay2Win.[/QUOTE] It could be pay to win.

[QUOTE=Noss;38653725]Why are you complaining about this? This is how all decent MMOs function - he needs to pay for server costs. Its better than Pay2Win.[/QUOTE] Guild Wars 2 is a pay once deal, it's far from Pay2Win.

Aaaaaaaand any interest I had in this game just got lost.

When I read the title I thought he was mental, but if the singleplayer is completely free, it seems absolutely reasonable.

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;38654252]MMO is subscription because of the server costs of running all shipboard computers 24/7. Multiplayer is free, you can host your own servers. Singleplayer is free, you can play on your local PC. And I don't really get how it's 90s graphics, its the same sort of complaint as complaining about Cortex Command. [IMG]http://0x10c.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/6bUlp.jpeg[/IMG] I really like the art style.[/QUOTE] As sceptical as I am about this game, I gotta adit that's some damn fine low poly modeling and texturing. It looks stylized yet retro, and not the pretentious indie kind of retro.

Actually looks like a neat little game, especially if the space sim part is as much a space sim as notch says.

[QUOTE=Forumaster;38653853]Did anyone say it should be free? No. They said it shouldn't be subscription based. As in, you pay $20-$30 [I]once[/I].[/QUOTE] It's a MMO game, with MMO pricing. What's wrong with that?

[QUOTE=ntzu;38654101]I don't understand why people are mad. if you don't want to pay for it then dont, host your own damn sever like everyone does on mine-craft anyways.[/QUOTE] because 96.63% of facepunch are under 14 and love the bandwagon

[QUOTE=Noss;38654816]because 96.63% of facepunch are under 14 and love the bandwagon[/QUOTE] Really specific with those statistics there. Anyway, does anyone have any screenshots of the ships themselves, as in outside of them?

[QUOTE=KennyAwsum;38654853]Really specific with those statistics there. Anyway, does anyone have any screenshots of the ships themselves, as in outside of them?[/QUOTE]Don't think they've gotten that far yet, I've read somewhere they are working on the ship editor but it's just the interior design for now.

Also, the subscription is only for the main server, servers hosted by players won't cost anything.

[QUOTE=theblah12;38655003]Also, the subscription is only for the main server, servers hosted by players won't cost anything.[/QUOTE] Well then thats good at least. Maybe 2b2t or someone else will set up a no rules server for this game. That might be fun.

[QUOTE=Noss;38653837]According to this thread all of Mojang's future games should be free because Notch is rich. I don't know why I try to have a reasonable discussion on FP anymore[/QUOTE] yeah me either considering you say stupid shit like this lmao

[QUOTE=Noss;38654816]because 96.63% of facepunch are under 14 and love the bandwagon[/QUOTE] A "bandwagon" is not a bad thing when the dislike for something is warranted

[QUOTE=legolover122;38655121]Well then thats good at least. Maybe 2b2t or someone else will set up a no rules server for this game. That might be fun.[/QUOTE] All servers are "Eve Online" no rules, if you catch my drift.

I'll reserve my judgement for this game until there's concrete information out about what the multiplayer will actually be about. I'll also reserve my judgement about this news until there's concrete information out about what the pricing will actually be.

[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;38655361]All servers are "Eve Online" no rules, if you catch my drift.[/QUOTE] So are minecraft servers by default. No "rules" are set in place at the start, but nine times out of ten a server has your normal no greifing no hacking thing and a shitload of addons. 2b2t style is just vanilla server (with like one or two non-gameplay addons) with no rules at all. Greif all you want. Do what you want. No bans.

[QUOTE=legolover122;38655429]So are minecraft servers by default. No "rules" are set in place at the start, but nine times out of ten a server has your normal no greifing no hacking thing and a shitload of addons. 2b2t style is just vanilla server (with like one or two non-gameplay addons) with no rules at all. Greif all you want. Do what you want. No bans.[/QUOTE] Whoops, sorry, I meant the MMO server, it's anarchy by default. Yeah, probably without a doubt 2b2t will be setting up a server. [editline]30th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=chipset;38655420]I'll reserve my judgement for this game until there's concrete information out about what the multiplayer will actually be about. I'll also reserve my judgement about this news until there's concrete information out about what the pricing will actually be.[/QUOTE] Multiplayer is said to be pretty much like a Firefly MMO.

[QUOTE=GunFox;38654035]Free to play is fucking awful. Just give it the hell up already. You can probably count the decent implementations of a free to play model on one hand with a library of terrible implementations on the other.[/QUOTE] Some of the biggest and best games around are F2P (Dota 2) League of Legends has more players than WoW IIRC

[QUOTE=Noss;38654816]because 96.63% of facepunch are under 14 and love the bandwagon[/QUOTE] That's some really high quality statistics you got there, any sources? Oh wait, it came out of your ass.

[QUOTE=Noss;38653725]Why are you complaining about this? This is how all decent MMOs function - he needs to pay for server costs. Its better than Pay2Win.[/QUOTE] that implies 0x10c is going to be a decent MMO