Cloning? Who Cares? - Polidicks

[QUOTE=piranhamatt2;19313149]09'er scum also oh shit the 10'ers will be arriving in less than 23 hours[/QUOTE] I'm an alt you idiot and you're a shit poster. Also join date elitism good job

The way I think of it is, Christianity is founded upon propaganda created by world elitists in occult societies as a shitty attempt to control primitive people before there were stabilized governments/laws. If people believe that they're being watched by an "all powerful" and "all knowing" invisible man... They won't do wrong, illiterate and uneducated people used to worship the sun, what does that say about religious beliefs? Religion isn't needed in modern societies anymore, the fundamental values are here and it doesn't take an idiot to figure that rape/murder/theft is wrong in the year [b]2009[/b].

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19313313]Men used to worship the sun, what does that say about religious beliefs?[/QUOTE] That the sun is koo I don't understand why there is an ethical problem with cloning. I mean, people are conceived every day. Is that ethically wrong, seeing as we're creating life? [editline]08:45PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19313313]Religion isn't needed in modern societies anymore, the fundamental values are here and it doesn't take an idiot to figure that rape/murder/theft is wrong in the year [b]2009[/b].[/QUOTE] Killing is controversial. How do we determine who deserves to die? I do agree with religion not being needed, however.

The obvious way to deal with the ethical clone-slavery thing: Use eugenics to make the clones physically perfect, and dysgenics to make them barely sentient and entirely subservient. Also, give them a far shorter life cycle. If they're not human, and unable to think for themselves or feel pain, then it's ethical.

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19313313]The way I think of it is, Christianity is founded upon propaganda created by world elitists in occult societies as a shitty attempt to control primitive people before there were stabilized governments/laws. If people believe that they're being watched by an "all powerful" and "all knowing" invisible man... They won't do wrong, illiterate and uneducated people used to worship the sun, what does that say about religious beliefs? Religion isn't needed in modern societies anymore, the fundamental values are here and it doesn't take an idiot to figure that rape/murder/theft is wrong in the year [b]2009[/b].[/QUOTE] Except there was stable governments/laws and religions before Christianity. :downs:

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314056]Except there was stable governments/laws and religions before Christianity. :downs:[/QUOTE] I was generalizing religion...

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19313313]The way I think of it is,[B][U][I] Christianity[/I][/U][/B] is founded upon propaganda created by world elitists in occult societies as a shitty attempt to control primitive people before there were stabilized governments/laws. If people believe that they're being watched by an "all powerful" and "all knowing" invisible man... They won't do wrong, illiterate and uneducated people used to worship the sun, what does that say about religious beliefs? Religion isn't needed in modern societies anymore, the fundamental values are here and it doesn't take an idiot to figure that rape/murder/theft is wrong in the year [b]2009[/b].[/QUOTE] Hurf? [QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19314070]I was generalizing religion...[/QUOTE] haha. look at you editing your post. :downs: I'm starting to think you're as ignorant as the Christians.

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314111]Hurf? haha. look at you editing your post. :downs:[/QUOTE] Do you see anything that changed?

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19314145]Do you see anything that changed?[/QUOTE] I forgot what you originally posed, but I know you edited it. Don't try and fool me, boy. :catholic:

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314178]I forgot what you originally posed, but I know you edited it. Don't try and fool me, boy. :catholic:[/QUOTE] Yeah.... Go fuck yourself.

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19314199]Yeah.... Go fuck yourself.[/QUOTE] Calm down, dude.

Wtf gamefreek he didn't change anything. Compare in a notepad doc.

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19314145]Do you see anything that changed?[/QUOTE] ^^ On this post he had something that made him sound like an idiot, but he realized that it made him sound like an idiot so he changed it to try and make me sound like an idiot. I called his bluff and he's just mad that a Christian outsmarted him.

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314560]^^ On this post he had something that made him sound like an idiot, but he realized that it made him sound like an idiot so he changed it to try and make me sound like an idiot. I called his bluff and he's just mad that a Christian outsmarted him.[/QUOTE] [quote=Edit log] - The way I think of it is, Christianity is founded upon propaganda created by world elitists in occult societies as a shitty attempt to control primitive people before there were stabilized governments/laws. If people believe that they're being watched by an "all powerful" and "all knowing" invisible man... They won't do wrong. + The way I think of it is, Christianity is founded upon propaganda created by world elitists in occult societies as a shitty attempt to control primitive people before there were stabilized governments/laws. If people believe that they're being watched by an "all powerful" and "all knowing" invisible man... They won't do wrong, illiterate and uneducated people used to worship the sun, what does that say about religious beliefs?[/quote] Fucking drop it.

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314560]^^ On this post he had something that made him sound like an idiot, but he realized that it made him sound like an idiot so he changed it to try and make me sound like an idiot. I called his bluff and he's just mad that a Christian outsmarted him.[/QUOTE] He didn't change anything and you're an idiot.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;19314595]He didn't change anything, he's right, and you're an idiot.[/QUOTE] Yes he did. I'm not going to try and convince you. He knows that he did it and I know that he did it. Lets end this.

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314617]Yes he did. I'm not going to try and convince you. He knows that he did it and I know that he did it. Lets end this.[/QUOTE] R u dumb because there was no change. And saying "I DON'T REMEMBER BUT THERE WAS AN EDIT" doesn't mean anything.

I can't wait, in the future we all will be disposable clones and live forever and never grow old muahahahaha

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;19314637]R u dumb because there was no change. And saying "I DON'T REMEMBER BUT THERE WAS AN EDIT" doesn't mean anything.[/QUOTE] Like I said: I'm not trying to convince you.

[QUOTE=Crypto;19314649]I can't wait, in the future we all will be disposable clones and live forever and never grow old muahahahaha[/QUOTE] But if you die there's just a clone of you and you're dead. Unless you want to transfer your consciousness to another body. [editline]09:44PM[/editline] [QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314661]Like I said: I'm not trying to convince you.[/QUOTE] Wtf u r retarded

[QUOTE=faze;19305073]What?[/QUOTE] It's true, science is like that. The odds are extremely slim however. If there's enough conflicting evidence and a theory can't compensate for it then you dispose of it.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;19314668] Wtf u r retarded[/QUOTE] Woah buddy quit trollin.

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314111]Hurf? haha. look at you editing your post. :downs: I'm starting to think you're as ignorant as the Christians.[/QUOTE] He just swapped wording. Both posts say the same thing. Forums have a log of all edits.

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;19314721]Woah buddy quit trollin.[/QUOTE] I'm not trolling and seeing as a moderator confirmed what he said then I would say you're overexerting yourself here trying to prove nothing...

[QUOTE=Communist Cake;19278093]I'm ok with cloning as long as it's not with people, that concept just freaks me out.[/QUOTE] The 6th day here we come!

[QUOTE=Alex_DeLarge;19313313]The way I think of it is, Christianity is founded upon propaganda created by world elitists in occult societies as a shitty attempt to control primitive people before there were stabilized governments/laws. If people believe that they're being watched by an "all powerful" and "all knowing" invisible man... They won't do wrong, illiterate and uneducated people used to worship the sun, what does that say about religious beliefs? Religion isn't needed in modern societies anymore, the fundamental values are here and it doesn't take an idiot to figure that rape/murder/theft is wrong in the year [b]2009[/b].[/QUOTE] If people want faith they can have faith. Blindly being a man of Science is ignorant and Blindly being a man of Religion is ignorant, I am a man of both. Why can't you?

[QUOTE=doommarine23;19333306]If people want faith they can have faith. Blindly being a man of Science is ignorant and Blindly being a man of Religion is ignorant, I am a man of both. Why can't you?[/QUOTE] How can you be a blind man of Science that's ridiculous. Unless, that is, if you don't really understand what you're talking about. Your religion is defined by the blind faith you have for it. Why can't we? Because we fully understand what is wrong about religions, Christianity specifically, and feel free to point it out.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;19334423]How can you be a blind man of Science that's ridiculous. Unless, that is, if you don't really understand what you're talking about. Your religion is defined by the blind faith you have for it. Why can't we? Because we fully understand what is wrong about religions, Christianity specifically, and feel free to point it out.[/QUOTE] Just purely believing in every little thing about science and every bullshit theory (and I don't mean scientific, I mean some crazy idea theory) that gets spewed out. I'm not Christian by the way, I believe in god but not in the bible. My religion is defined by my blind faith? What blind-faith have I demonstrated? That I don't like to believe every bullshit spewed by either science or religion? I guess thinking for my self is blindness :downs:

[QUOTE=doommarine23;19334821]Just purely believing in every little thing about science and every bullshit theory (and I don't mean scientific, I mean some crazy idea theory) that gets spewed out. I'm not Christian by the way, I believe in god but not in the bible. My religion is defined by my blind faith? What blind-faith have I demonstrated? That I don't like to believe every bullshit spewed by either science or religion? I guess thinking for my self is blindness :downs:[/QUOTE] You can't believe in one or the other, you have to either believe in both Gawd and da Bible or neither. AKA: Become an Atheist today, or a Buddhist.

[QUOTE=doommarine23;19333306]If people want faith they can have faith. Blindly being a man of Science is ignorant and Blindly being a man of Religion is ignorant, I am a man of both. Why can't you?[/QUOTE] Faith is a very erroneous path. It claims absolute certainty, has nonfalsifiable claims, and treats scrutiny very poorly. If you knew a snipit of what science really was, I doubt you would continue to say being a man of science is foolish. Because science carries us toward an understanding of how the world is, rather than how we would wish it to be, its findings may not in all cases be immediately comprehensible or staisfying. Is this worshiping at the altar of science? Is this replacing one faith by another, equally arbitrary? In my view, not at all. The directly observed success of science is the reason I advocate its use. If something else worked better, I would advocate something else. Does science insulate itself from philosophical criticism? Does it define itself as having a monopoly on the "truth"? The reason science works so well is partly that built-in error-correcting machinery. There are no forbidden questions in science, no matters too sensitive or delicate to be probed, no sacred truths. That openness to new ideas, sifts the wheat from the chaff. It makes no difference how smart, august, or beloved you are. You must prove your case in the face of determined, expert criticism. Diverity and debate are valued. Opinions are encouraged to contend - substatively and in depth. Faith does not at all offer this. [editline]08:10PM[/editline] [QUOTE=doommarine23;19334821] My religion is defined by my blind faith? What blind-faith have I demonstrated? That I don't like to believe every bullshit spewed by either science or religion? I guess thinking for my self is blindness :downs:[/QUOTE] To start, you're propagating that you believe in a god without any rhyme or reason. Unless you'd like to tell us.