I would rather be taxed less on the money I worked hard and long for, thank you very much.
Poor people lose much more from being taxed than rich people do, sure the rich people may lose more money but they'll always have more money no matter what. The rich people are the ones that can live with being taxed high.
[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;24949808]Rich people really should be taxed more. Socialism isn't that bad at all, anybody who protests it is either a greedy fuck or an idiot stuck in a post-cold-war era.[/QUOTE]
It's not like it's better either.
Unfortunately basic economics tells us that if you raise taxes on rich people like business owners, then unemployment will go up as well which is probably our biggest problem right now.
A lot of the rich probably to do have money to burn but a lot of businesses are still having to close down or lay off workers and raising taxes will only further that.
[QUOTE=NightmareXx;24953235]
i havent taken economics yet so as far as i know every single thing ive said so far could be blatantly wrong.[/QUOTE]
I have, and if you had, you'd known that flat taxes don't work.
Imagine a country where the entire poplulation is 100 people.
1 of those gets 100.000 units of their currency monthly.
9 of those get 75.000 monthly.
20 of those get 50.000 monthly.
30 get 25.000 monthly.
40 get 10.000 monthly.
If they had proportional tax rates of 25% of income salary which goes to the government it'd look like this.
1 = 75000
9 = 56250
20 = 37500
30 = 18750
40 = 7500
And the total governmental income would be 731250 units of their currency.
If they had flat taxes, this means that each citizen would have to pay 7312,5 units. This would be profitable for the 30 richest, slightly increasing the poverty of the middle class and would be DEVASTATING for the 40 poorest. The richest would have to pay 7,3% of his income while the 40 poorest would have to pay 73,1% (!!!) of their salary. There's no "deal with it" emoticion for this, since this would affect the richest man badly as well. If the poorest can't consume his products he will not get any money, thus both the rich and the country's industries will gain less money, affecting the entire country's economy.
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;24965342]I have, and if you had, you'd known that flat taxes don't work.
Imagine a country where the entire poplulation is 100 people.
1 of those gets 100.000 units of their currency monthly.
9 of those get 75.000 monthly.
20 of those get 50.000 monthly.
30 get 25.000 monthly.
40 get 10.000 monthly.
If they had proportional tax rates of 25% of income salary which goes to the government it'd look like this.
1 = 75000
9 = 56250
20 = 37500
30 = 18750
40 = 7500
And the total governmental income would be 731250 units of their currency.
If they had flat taxes, this means that each citizen would have to pay 7312,5 units. This would be profitable for the 30 richest, slightly increasing the poverty of the middle class and would be DEVASTATING for the 40 poorest. The richest would have to pay 7,3% of his income while the 40 poorest would have to pay 73,1% (!!!) of their salary. There's no "deal with it" emoticion for this, since this would affect the richest man badly as well. If the poorest can't consume his products he will not get any money, thus both the rich and the country's industries will gain less money, affecting the entire country's economy.[/QUOTE]
uhhhh
unless i'm reading this wrong, a flat tax rate taxes a percentage of your income, not a set amount.
Yeah, that's not what a flat tax is.
[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;24949808]Rich people really should be taxed more. Socialism isn't that bad at all, anybody who protests it is either a greedy fuck or an idiot stuck in a post-cold-war era.[/QUOTE]
Then let people be greedy.
Edit: Also, isn't it possible to voluntarily pay extra taxes? I think I've heard of people who have.
[QUOTE=Ond kaja;24965342]wall of text[/QUOTE]
Somebody's misinformed on the definition of flat taxes.
Since this thread is about taxes and the right is at it talking about taxes going up.
Let me ask you this, How many president's have lowered taxes [b]during war[/b]?
[QUOTE=Reaver1991;24951083]who the fuck rated me agree[/QUOTE]
Ha! I actually considered your second post in this thread as a continuation to the first. I guess i was right :buddy:
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;24975992]Somebody's misinformed on the definition of flat taxes.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, the definition of "flat taxes" is apparently different in English and Swedish (my native language).
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