Israeli Supreme Court rules: Israel can confiscate Palestinian property in Jerusalem.
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[QUOTE=Deng;47556331]There's something rather dishonest in the way that many people compare Israel to Nazi Germany.[/QUOTE]
Except Israel is implementing similar policies in regards to Palestinians.
[QUOTE=Deng;47556331]There's something rather dishonest in the way that many people compare Israel to Nazi Germany.[/QUOTE]
The Israelis have no problem using the rhetoric against Palestinians and other Arabs. There are clear policy similarities at many levels, which make it a fair comparison because of their troubling nature. While Israel is far closer to an apartheid state than a Nazi state, their practices are still concerning.
Seeing as how Netanyahu is leader of Israel, this is not surprising.
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;47556994]Except Israel is implementing similar policies in regards to Palestinians.[/QUOTE]
Or Zimbabwe in regards to white colonials. Or the US historically in regards to Native Americans. You know, the Nazis never had a monopoly on oppression of political enemies within their borders. I don't like Israel at all, but comparisons to Nazis are people overreaching for that ~ironic zinger~ while pretty blatantly making slippery slope accusations. Call me when they're shuttling Palestinians to death camps, invading their neighbors to unite ethnic Jews, and putting racial supremacy policies into effect. Until then it's just a government being shitty and unjust as governments often do.
[QUOTE=catbarf;47557484]Or Zimbabwe in regards to white colonials. Or the US historically in regards to Native Americans. You know, the Nazis never had a monopoly on oppression of political enemies within their borders. I don't like Israel at all, but comparisons to Nazis are people overreaching for that ~ironic zinger~ while pretty blatantly making slippery slope accusations. Call me when they're shuttling Palestinians to death camps,
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I agree with you until this point
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invading their neighbors to unite ethnic Jews, and putting racial supremacy policies into effect[/quote]
Doesn't making international campaigns calling ethnic Jews to relocate to Israel and then overtaking for instance west bank land for "settlers" count as the first, and coaxing minorities coming to Israel from Africa to sterilization count as the second?
[QUOTE=catbarf;47557484]Or Zimbabwe in regards to white colonials. Or the US historically in regards to Native Americans. You know, the Nazis never had a monopoly on oppression of political enemies within their borders. I don't like Israel at all, but comparisons to Nazis are people overreaching for that ~ironic zinger~ while pretty blatantly making slippery slope accusations. Call me when they're shuttling Palestinians to death camps, invading their neighbors to unite ethnic Jews, and putting racial supremacy policies into effect. Until then it's just a government being shitty and unjust as governments often do.[/QUOTE]
Thing is-- When governments are unjust, it is people's responsibility to call out and criticize. You can't just accept this. You just can't.
Whining on an online gaming forum won't cure this, but we are just discussing the topic. Israel is not Nazi Germany, but that doesn't mean they are right either.
Also their discriminatory measures provide a little irony, that's what these people are pressing on, just that, they are not saying Netanyahu is the new hitler or something similar. Just a little likedness, don't act like there has to be a complete analogy.
[QUOTE=Dostoyevsky;47558447]Thing is-- When governments are unjust, it is people's responsibility to call out and criticize. You can't just accept this. You just can't.[/QUOTE]
If you're gonna criticize, leaping to the Nazi comparison is the most petty, ridiculous, easily-ignored way to do so. Nobody takes those comparisons seriously because they're so totally exaggerated and outright absurd. It makes you look like those right-wingers comparing Obama to Hitler over nebulous perceived commonalities like expanding central government powers- no, it's not just 'discussing the topic', it's engaging in a kind of hyperbolic guilt-by-association with a healthy dose of slippery slope fallacy to boot. It's Godwin's Law in its purest form.
For instance, this:
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47557528]making international campaigns calling ethnic Jews to relocate to Israel[/QUOTE]
is comparable to forcible invasion and occupation of the Germanic nations in only the most close-one-eye-and-squint superficial sort of way. If you compare Israel to Nazi Germany on the grounds that calling for people to immigrate is similar to aggressive invasion of a foreign nation, nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to take it seriously.
You can call out and criticize without trying so hard for that irony and sounding like Glenn Beck in the process.
[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;47557347]Seeing as how Netanyahu is leader of Israel, this is not surprising.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Israeli Supreme Court[/QUOTE]
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is comparable to forcible invasion and occupation of the Germanic nations in only the most close-one-eye-and-squint superficial sort of way. If you compare Israel to Nazi Germany on the grounds that calling for people to immigrate is similar to aggressive invasion of a foreign nation, nobody who doesn't already agree with you is going to take it seriously.
You can call out and criticize without trying so hard for that irony and sounding like Glenn Beck in the process.[/QUOTE]
It's not JUST that. They are also kinda "resettling" the land of west bank and such. Don't just ignore that as if it wasn't involved with it.
[QUOTE=Monkah;47558742]Israeli Supreme Court[/QUOTE]
I don't know much about Israel, but I think of corruption. Are the court members appointed? Supreme Courts don't tend to conflict with governments after all when they are so.
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[QUOTE=Monkah;47547730]Makes sense, honestly. Israel is already incredibly overpopulated, and vacant homes run by people who moved to enemy countries are simply taking up space.
It's not as if said Palestinians are going back there or anything. Why not?[/QUOTE]
Ever heard of visiting relatives? Ever heard of freedom of travel?
[QUOTE=Dostoyevsky;47562323]I don't know much about Israel, but I think of corruption. Are the court members appointed? Supreme Courts don't tend to conflict with governments after all when they are so.
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That's kind of a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_Israel#Intervention"]dumb thing to say[/URL].
The Israeli supreme court constantly overrides government decisions and even laws especially in issues relating to human rights.
That's pretty much just going "I own whatever I think I own"
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