With two major accidents in one year, Malaysia Airlines' future in doubt. - Polidicks

They could change the font and company logo.

[QUOTE=LarparNar;45430009]I think people will kind of understand that this last event was out of Malaysia Airlines hands. Or at least I hope so.[/QUOTE] Yes, they kind of do understand that. [QUOTE]Some Asian stock markets also ended the day lower on fears the crash may intensify political tensions between the West, Ukraine and Russia. "Even if this is pure coincidence, it's never happened in history that a flag carrier has seen two wide-body aircraft disappearing in a few months," said Bertrand Grabowski, head of aviation at DVB Bank.[/QUOTE] What can you say? They're the shareholders..

I won't fly Malaysian airlines now, just seems like bad luck to me.

[QUOTE=OvB;45430385]As far as I know the only Airlines that were avoiding the area were US because they were told not to go through there. Lots of other airlines were flying over because they were told it would be safe to fly above the no fly area. No one expected anyone to fire a SAM at a commercial liner. As soon as word broke about the crash a lot of airlines did emergency diverts to avoid the area.[/QUOTE] It appears European and Asian ones have for some time, and Crimea has been avoided too: [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/airlines-avoid-ukraine-airspace-mh17[/url] Also, according to this the route that Malaysian Airlines flight took usually didn't go through the Donbass, but South Ukraine/west of Mariupol: [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/17/the-malaysian-flight-that-crashed-in-ukraine-was-on-the-same-route-it-flew-every-day/[/url] Still no excuse, of course.

[QUOTE=Brandy92;45432375]I won't fly Malaysian airlines now, just seems like bad luck to me.[/QUOTE] do you know how many planes fly every day? these are two events several months apart. I guarantee you'll be fine.

[QUOTE=Brandy92;45432375]I won't fly Malaysian airlines now, just seems like bad luck to me.[/QUOTE] Sorry bud, luck doesn't exist, cite a better reason before contributing to this company's collapse.

Malasia Airlines is supported by the government so it can't fail, otherwise they'd be without an airlines.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;45432690]Sorry bud, luck doesn't exist, cite a better reason before contributing to this company's collapse.[/QUOTE] But actual fear of flying does exist, and this doesn't help those who have that fear.

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;45432697]Malasia Airlines is supported by the government so it can't fail, otherwise they'd be without an airlines.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't count on that.

It's also worth noting that the flight had to be diverted from the route by about 300km due to thunderstorms. Originally, it would have flown further south from the crash site, over the Black Sea.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;45430503]I'm reluctant to even say the first flight is any their fault, considering the three Mohammeds on board with stolen passports. When is an air crash even directly the fault of the company owning the aircraft anyway?[/QUOTE] Air China had one case where they didn't properly fix a tear in the rear fuselage of one of their planes. They put a patch on it even though the hole was way to big. Several years later the plane essentially disintegrated in mid air. There were several issues with hiring/training practices. One example being Russian pilots not being properly taught how to read the artificial horizon. Some airlines bought counterfeit parts. It turned out that some of these counterfeit parts were even on Airforce one. Mayday is a Great/Terrifying show.

Let's get real here. Malaysia Airlines isn't really to blame for either of these incidents. 370 was a freak accident, and nobody could have predicted a civilian airliner at cruise altitude getting shot down by a SAM.

[QUOTE=LarparNar;45430009]I think people will kind of understand that this last event was out of Malaysia Airlines hands. Or at least I hope so.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Brandy92;45432375]I won't fly Malaysian airlines now, just seems like bad luck to me.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=525881&dateline=1350352078[/IMG]

theres clearly bad juju with this airline people time to avoid it! :v:

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;45432690]Sorry bud, luck doesn't exist, cite a better reason before contributing to this company's collapse.[/QUOTE] Lol so he's accountable to you before choosing which airline he will fly? Get the hell out of here.

As i was saying in the other Malaysian airlines thread, this will be the end of them. They've been losing hundreds of millions of dollars every single quarter for a while now, and losing almost 600 passengers in 3 1/2 months has really put a dent in their reputations. It's a shame too, Malaysia Airlines is actually a really solid and good airline. They've been sunk by three things essentially out of their control; The GFC forcing people to fly budget airlines, the two plane crashes, and the rise of AirAsiaX, also based in Kuala Lumpa and is quickly becoming the premier low cost carrier in Asia. Air Asia isn't even near easyjet or Ryanair tier shit either.

[QUOTE=racerfan;45430538]Actually, they've been using a new paint scheme on certain planes: [IMG]http://www.nycaviation.com/newspage/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/malaysia-a380-painted-1-620x413.jpg[/IMG] If they're able to secure more funds to repaint the remaining fleet, it might help with their image. Additionally, they could go the way of ValuJet and try rebranding entirely.[/QUOTE] The plane that got shot down once flew with this livery. [t]http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/6/9/7/1218796.jpg[/t] It was called The Freedom Of Space

[QUOTE=OvB;45430385]As far as I know the only Airlines that were avoiding the area were US because they were told not to go through there. Lots of other airlines were flying over because they were told it would be safe to fly above the no fly area. No one expected anyone to fire a SAM at a commercial liner. As soon as word broke about the crash a lot of airlines did emergency diverts to avoid the area.[/QUOTE] Not just the US. [QUOTE]Many of the world's best-known airlines – including British Airways, Qantas and Cathay Pacific – had been avoiding Ukrainian airspace due to safety fears for months before the downing of flight MH17. As air traffic control authorities banned all aircraft from flying through eastern Ukrainian airspace – which is likely to increase flight costs and journey times – it has emerged that several airlines had already chosen to avoid the area. A spokesman for Qantas said the Australian flag carrier had not used the route for months. Hong Kong-based Cathay Pacific said it had been taking a detour for "quite some time". British Airways, Korean Air Lines, Air Berlin, Asiana Airlines and Taiwan's China Airlines had also been avoiding the east Ukraine route - which is the most commonly used between Europe and Asia - for months. British Airways declined to comment on its previous flight routes. Eurocontrol, which manages the European air transport network, said MH17 was flying at approximately 33,000ft, 1,000ft above closed airspace. Since the crash, the Ukrainian authorities have completely closed airspace over eastern Ukraine, known in air traffic control terms as Dnipropetrovsk flight information region. "All flight plans that are filed using these routes are now being rejected by Eurocontrol. The routes will remain closed until further notice," the agency said. The European Aviation Safety Agency issued a safety bulletin in conjunction with Eurocontrol and the UN's International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) on 3 April, advising that Crimean airspace in southern Ukraine should be avoided. However, the directive did not apply to the airspace over Ukraine being used by flight MH17 when it was brought down. On Friday the ICAO stressed it was up to individual member states to declare unsafe areas of airspace. "ICAO does not declare airspace safe or unsafe or undertake any other direct operational responsibilities with respect to civilian air services," said spokesman Anthony Philbin, according to a Reuters report. "It is always the responsibility of our sovereign member states to advise other states of potential safety hazards," he said.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/airlines-avoid-ukraine-airspace-mh17[/url] Cathay Pacific, British Airways, Korean Air Lines, Air Berlin, Asiana Airlines and Taiwan's China Airlines