• Ask.fm: ‘Hannah sent hate notes to herself’
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[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;41794322]Awesomecaek is a fucking faggot [editline]11th August 2013[/editline] Yes lets call suicidally depressed people names because they were desperate to bring attention to themselves before killing themselves. [editline]11th August 2013[/editline] All ill people should be left to fucking die if they can't take care over themselves. Why stay at psychological problems? Got into a car crash? Well suck on it dipshit, have fun bleeding out, it's obviously [I]your fault[/I] anyway. [I] Obviously[/I] if you have a problem that's going to lead to your death, then go and die, it's no one's else business! Oh, you are screaming desperately for help as you succumb to your problems? Well fuck you then we gonna ensure you will be laughed at and detested after you die, that will teach you, attention whore! [editline]11th August 2013[/editline] ---------- [editline]11th August 2013[/editline] [B]"Attention whores" are not healthy people[/B]. They do need [I]professional[/I] attention. If you feel like somebody is being an attention whore and don't feel the moral strength to try to actively help them, [I][B]just ignore them[/B][/I]. No, it's not sign of neither intelligence nor strength to see through the "attention whoring" and call them out for it, in person or publicly. If you consider yourself a decent person, just walk away from it and stay fucking shut. If you want to do something really good, try to look into it, to understand the person's issues, to resolve them. If you think it's not in your power, inform somebody responsible over them. Their parents. Their teacher. Anybody.[/QUOTE] Do you have a disorder? One paragraph you're defending her and the next you say "All ill people should be left to fucking die if they can't take care over themselves."
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;41794479]Do you have a disorder? One paragraph you're defending her and the next you say "All ill people should be left to fucking die if they can't take care over themselves."[/QUOTE]In the second paragraph, he's parodying some people's attitudes towards the suicidal and depressed.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;41794479]Do you have a disorder? One paragraph you're defending her and the next you say "All ill people should be left to fucking die if they can't take care over themselves."[/QUOTE] It's a terrible disorder called sarcasticis, only known cure is horse semen mixed with charcoal, I missed my morning dose I am sorry I will go fix that right now.
dissociative personality disorder anyone?
[QUOTE=katbug;41791000]It's called fishing for attention/compliments, and it's nothing new.[/QUOTE] If you are at the stage where you are so depressed, you are anonymously posting yourself hate messages, why would attention be a bad thing? In fact, it might actually save a life. I don't understand why people on the internet think wanting attention is the worst thing in the world.
a bunch of my female friends went through the Ask.fm phase and it was really fucking weird. It seems like a simple enough idea, basically just Q&A. One of my friends had been getting a tonne of similar "hate mail", only to discover it was her best friend all along, and I'm pretty sure during the whole fiasco her best friend was saying stuff like "omg we need to find out who that person is, i feel so bad for you". I think it's something to do with the access to complete anonymity that makes people really weird. I don't think this girl necessarily had any kind of schizophrenia or the sort, probably just an attempted grab at attention that spiraled into madness.
It's good to know the bullies who drove her to suicide got what they deserve.
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[QUOTE=katbug;41793337]I'm not saying it isn't awful and sad, because that's what it is. But it's also not unusual.[/QUOTE] why do you not think that someone who felt so strongly about this as to kill themselves should deserve the benefit of the doubt? if she wanted attention so badly as to kill herself then it's very clear that this whole thing was a cry for some desperately needed help, not a plan to act like an attention whore and steal your Facebook likes or whatever. [editline]11th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Clovis;41795166][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection[/url][/QUOTE] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism#Criticism_and_controversy"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism#Criticism_and_controversy[/URL]
Ah well, She died like a dumbass.
[QUOTE=Nitro-Trucker;41791596]How could they prove that though. The only way would be to hook them up to a lie detector but they have to agree to do that. [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] and you know they aren't going to admit it[/QUOTE] lol as far as I remember lie detectors arent accurate when you answer a question you think of the amswer in your mind first then say it; when lying in your mind you tell yourself the answer in your mind but out loud you say something else to deceive the person. you could teach yourself how to cheat in it and simply tell yourself that you didn't do it. but then I could be wrong technology advances daily this is fucked up tho
[QUOTE=katbug;41791016]It wouldn't be the first time someone did something horrible for attention. Edit: Also, a lot of "cyberbullying"/death threats aren't real in the first place.[/QUOTE] The smell of shit is still coming off strong from this internet fact, please stop pulling things out of your ass.
I guess this means we can stop burning our routers in protest of the internet now.
No Hannah you are the bullies.
It was nice of Cameron to eagerly jump on the 'oh this is why my filter would be good' bandwagon without getting the full story...
[QUOTE=Clovis;41795166][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection[/url][/QUOTE] So edgy. I bet this is your retort for all instances of death, right?
I've done similar things. It's expression of self-hatred.
And? She was selfish, Her sister is scarred for life now. Because of HER OWN messages, Yeah, no sympy.
As much as I think that this was a pretty shitty thing to do, I can't help but feel bad for the girl and especially her parents. I bet that they feel like shit knowing that this was going on under their noses.
[QUOTE=CMPunk444;41795981]And? She was selfish, Her sister is scarred for life now. Because of HER OWN messages, Yeah, no sympy.[/QUOTE] [i]"Yeah, let's point fingers at that depressed teenager who expressed self-hatred as a cry for help! What an ass!"[/i] It's stupid when you kill yourself to purposely make everyone around you feel guilty for something, but it's an entirely different thing to kill yourself simply out of depression or something along those lines. It's pretty unfair to call a 14 year old girl selfish for killing herself.
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389212/Hannah-Smith-sent-vast-majority-hate-messages-committing-suicide-claim-website-bosses.html[/url] The Daily Mail has reported on it. Notice how they don't call Ask.fm a "vile bully website" or any other such terms in this article. Looking pretty silly now, after launching that campaign against the site without all the facts.
they found this out after "ASK.FM SHOULD GO ON TRIAL FOR MURDER" as if even though this happened it was true to begin with. And really, just because someone kills themself over internet messages just means you should educate people about ignoring this shit, not ban people from saying it. This is the perfect example of this. Fuck you Cameron shame about the girl though [QUOTE=st_nick5;41796358][url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389212/Hannah-Smith-sent-vast-majority-hate-messages-committing-suicide-claim-website-bosses.html[/url] The Daily Mail has reported on it. Notice how they don't call Ask.fm a "vile bully website" or any other such terms in this article. Looking pretty silly now, after launching that campaign against the site without all the facts.[/QUOTE] How the hell was Ask.FM a bully website to boot? The real bully is dailymail, etc. I'm so sick of minority of a community = the entire community. this is especially bad when used as an "Argument" against religion, race, LGBT, etc. Anti gays use it... but you can easily just say "if thats the case then you anti gays are all racist, gun totting sister fucking white trash who believe the earth is flat". The same thing can be used against Dailymails "Skill" with articles. I mean, I've never been there, but god damn lmao.
[QUOTE=st_nick5;41796358][url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2389212/Hannah-Smith-sent-vast-majority-hate-messages-committing-suicide-claim-website-bosses.html[/url] The Daily Mail has reported on it. Notice how they don't call Ask.fm a "vile bully website" or any other such terms in this article. Looking pretty silly now, after launching that campaign against the site without all the facts.[/QUOTE] I love how if the comment section is of any indication, absolutely nobody actually read the article.
Maybe her sister did it?
Its an internet version of self harm or maybe someone hacked her IP
[QUOTE=NiandraLades;41794847]If you are at the stage where you are so depressed, you are anonymously posting yourself hate messages, why would attention be a bad thing? In fact, it might actually save a life. I don't understand why people on the internet think wanting attention is the worst thing in the world.[/QUOTE] I [u]never said it was bad[/u]. I literally ONLY said it wasn't uncommon, in response to people hypothesizing about hackers/multiple personality disorder.
[QUOTE=CMPunk444;41795981]And? She was selfish, Her sister is scarred for life now. Because of HER OWN messages, Yeah, no sympy.[/QUOTE] Jesus god how fucking hard it is to understand that depression and all the states surrounding it are DISORDERS which can often lead to NEXT TO ABSOLUTE LOSS OF RATIONAL, MORAL, AND EMOTIONAL CONTROL OVER ONE'S BEHAVIOUR. Sometimes, if you prove clinical depression at court, they can clear you off a murder charge (and send you to psychiatric ward instead) but it's not something you can judge somebody for happening to be in. [editline]11th August 2013[/editline] It's like blaming somebody who crashes a car while having an unexpected epileptic seizure and kills somebody. It's a condition. People who have it need treatment, your feelings of superiority are out of place. You are practically abusing cripples.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;41796060][i]"Yeah, let's point fingers at that depressed teenager who expressed self-hatred as a cry for help! What an ass!"[/i] It's stupid when you kill yourself to purposely make everyone around you feel guilty for something, but it's an entirely different thing to kill yourself simply out of depression or something along those lines. It's pretty unfair to call a 14 year old girl selfish for killing herself.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter the reason, killing yourself is a really selfish thing to do. What's stopped me (and many others, I hear it on FP all the time) from doing it when I was depressed was thinking about how other people would feel about it and how many people I'd hurt if I killed myself. [editline]11th August 2013[/editline] Not saying what the poster above me has said isn't true, if you have a disorder you're not just gonna think about it and stop
saying suicide is a selfish thing is such a horrible thing to say. It has some truth to it, but even so.
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;41798899]It doesn't matter the reason, killing yourself is a really selfish thing to do. What's stopped me (and many others, I hear it on FP all the time) from doing it when I was depressed was thinking about how other people would feel about it and how many people I'd hurt if I killed myself. [editline]11th August 2013[/editline] Not saying what the poster above me has said isn't true, if you have a disorder you're not just gonna think about it and stop[/QUOTE] It's a lot more selfish to expect someone to live in total misery so that you won't be sad for a bit.
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