Thousands of Russian nationalist march in anti-immigrant protest
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[QUOTE=gufu;42761600]Damn place is just an overgrown village. Saint-Petersburg should still have retained the importance of the capital of the country. Then again, the anti-LGBT law has been mainly produced by a past mayor of Saint-Petersburg, so obviously no place is perfect.[/QUOTE]
Just move the fucking capital to Yekaterinburg, as was planned once. If Civilization taught me anything, that should reduce the overall corruption :v:
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42763225]How does it feel to be a racist with an IQ level you can count on your fingers??[/QUOTE]
Wow you guys say this every time someone says something "racist".
Call them idiots, best argument ever.
A new cold war is brewing.
[QUOTE=N0 WAR;42762983]My grandpa was a genocidal SS officer.
Should I be proud?[/QUOTE]
Your grandpa had a father right? Should you curse all of your ancestors because your grandpa happened to be an SS officer? Do you know anything about said persons father? And his fathers father? There will always be bad apples, but you can't blame your entire family tree for it.
[QUOTE=N0 WAR;42762983]Also you're basically just saying "hoho maybe one day you'll be as wise as me, kid" in a more polite way.[/QUOTE]
No.
all my ancestors got killed by nationalists, nationalism is the bacterium rotting the apples on my tree
[editline]5th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42763225]How does it feel to be a racist with an IQ level you can count on your fingers??[/QUOTE]
where do you get the nerve to insult someone else's intelligence
[QUOTE=thisispain;42764502]
where do you get the nerve to insult someone else's intelligence[/QUOTE]
Because no matter how dumb someone is, there's always somebody [i]stupider[/i].
No offense, Breakyourfac.
Insulting and namecalling must make you feel so much better about yourselves.
[QUOTE=Hellsten;42764551]Insulting and namecalling must make you feel so much better about yourselves.[/QUOTE]
It's at least something we achieved, unlike your ancestor and bloodline fetishism.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42763225]How does it feel to be a racist with an IQ level you can count on your fingers??[/QUOTE]
It feels....okay? If you disagree with the viewpoints I have expressed, all right. I understand that I am in the minority here.
jesus fucking christ facepunch, tolerance is not a fucking remedy to all problems, it does have downsides that you can't ignore forever.
and in this case, you know why we, russians, hate those people? they don't give a single shit about the law. period. they don't. they have friends or family in police/government/everywhere who bail them out of everything. their teens carry knives on them all the time because it's apparently "their law" to stab every guy who upset you. their fucking weddings involve [B]shooting a machine gun in the middle of a fucking city[/B] and nobody can do anything about that. so tell me how this isn't supposed to make us racist.
I bet it's easy to shout "omg such nazi bigots!!" from the comfort of your houses while it's dangerous for me to walk on a street at night.
[QUOTE=qwerty000;42765116]jesus fucking christ facepunch, tolerance is not a fucking remedy to all problems, it does have downsides that you can't ignore forever.
and in this case, you know why we, russians, hate those people? they don't give a single shit about the law. period. they don't. they have friends or family in police/government/everywhere who bail them out of everything. their teens carry knives on them all the time because it's apparently "their law" to stab every guy who upset you. their fucking weddings involve [B]shooting a machine gun in the middle of a fucking city[/B] and nobody can do anything about that. so tell me how this isn't supposed to make us racist.
I bet it's easy to shout "omg such racist bigots!!" from the comfort of your houses while it's dangerous for me to walk on a street at night.[/QUOTE]
[citation needed]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;42765137][citation needed][/QUOTE]
It's in Russian, but if you want it so much here you go
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcjy-5PtpX4[/url] <wedding shooting
[url]http://www.1tv.ru/news/crime/236325[/url] < another wedding shooting
[url]http://pikabu.ru/story/russkiy_bunt_v_biryulevo_1620936[/url] < a guy casually stabbed dude who was defending his girlfriend a month ago, caused a pretty large uproar
that's all the recent things I can remember, get ready your google translate
[QUOTE=qwerty000;42765183]It's in Russian, but if you want it so much here you go
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcjy-5PtpX4[/url] <wedding shooting
[url]http://www.1tv.ru/news/crime/236325[/url] < another wedding shooting
[url]http://pikabu.ru/story/russkiy_bunt_v_biryulevo_1620936[/url] < a guy casually stabbed dude who was defending his girlfriend a month ago, caused a pretty large uproar
that's all the recent things I can remember, get ready your google translate[/QUOTE]
Theses are not the citations needed to prove your point
You can't cherry pick individual crimes. Its so asinine and doesn't count as evidence.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;42765198]Theses are not the citations needed to prove your point[/QUOTE]
Then what is? Other than you coming here and seeing for yourself.
[quote]You can't cherry pick individual crimes. Its so asinine and doesn't count as evidence.[/quote]
the whole point of my post was that those aren't exceptions, them not giving a shit about the law happens every week (or every day in lesser developed parts of Russia)
[QUOTE] “Russia for Russians, Moscow for Moscovites,”[/QUOTE]
YOU SHOULDA THOUGHT BETTER BEFORE COMING OUT SOMEBODY ELSE'S VAGINA FOREIGNER
[QUOTE=qwerty000;42765214]Then what is? Other than you coming here and seeing for yourself.[/QUOTE]
actual verifiable crime statistics would be a good start.
[editline]5th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=qwerty000;42765214]the whole point of my post was that those aren't exceptions, them not giving a shit about the law happens every week (or every day in lesser developed parts of Russia)[/QUOTE]
[citation needed]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;42765232]actual verifiable crime statistics would be a good start.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://news.mail.ru/inregions/moscow/90/incident/14453590/[/url]
why, here you go
"50% of all crimes is done by immigrants"
oh and just saying
when typing "crime statistics" in our search engines, the first result is "crime statistics done by immigrants" which may or may not tell something
also, if that isn't obvious, I'm not supporting nationalists, I'm showing how things are in Russia and why racism against immigrants is so strong.
[QUOTE=qwerty000;42765282][url]http://news.mail.ru/inregions/moscow/90/incident/14453590/[/url]
why, here you go
"50% of all crimes is done by immigrants"
oh and just saying
when typing "crime statistics" in our search engines, the first result is "crime statistics done by immigrants" which may or may not tell something
also, if that isn't obvious, I'm not supporting nationalists, I'm showing how things are in Russia and why racism against immigrants is so strong.[/QUOTE]
sorry but i find that statistic hard to believe, especially when it comes from the country that arrested 200 people that haven't done literally shit, because nationalists were protesting against their presence in russia.
[url]http://world.time.com/2013/10/14/russia-responds-to-anti-migrant-riots-by-arresting-migrants/[/url]
show us something done by independent groups.
Sorry I fail to see how this is a bad thing? It's common practice for police here to catch and depart back immigrants at random, because, here's a shocker, 90% of them have their documents faked (the most faked thing is the medical certificate thing (not sure how to translate it but it allows you to work food related jobs), hell, I've been offered to buy it when I was searching for work)
He had a thousand random immigrants arrested because they [I]might[/I] be illegal
Nah it's fine they have dark skin who cares about due process
For better understanging why there are so many immigrants and why nobody likes them let me explain.
When the USSR fell, in the 90s, bandits and terrorists were overcoming every business and government property in Russia and CIS regions, there were constant bandit wars, street shootings, and so on.
While things got fixed pretty quick in Russia (with some Putin involvement), the lesser developed CIS regions (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Moldova, etc) had their factories, farms, businesses either wiped out or taken over and sold for quick money by bandits. And by the 2000s, there was literally nothing to do in those countries, so they started to fake their passports and arrive in big Russian cities.
They work for very little money - it is easier for some greedy Russian businessman to illegally employ uneducated immigrants (and things like [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cajw74b-S4]this[/url] started to happen). While little to none (post-USSR universities and even schools in those countries are a joke) engineers or scientists arriving, their average iq is low. And it got very, very popular, there are many of them (25% of Moscow population are immigrants - think about that) and no one can do anything legally to stop it - because the government (you all know how corrupt Russia is) often profits from illegal work.
Fun fact: Tajikistan has a large number of people considered poor (60% in 2011 IIRC) and 40% unemployed, but the country does well. Doesn't take a scientist to figure where the money comes from, or where the employed are.
But there's the racist part, it's simple. People from Belarus, Moldova are very close to Russians, while people from -stans (except maybe Kazakhstan) are muslims (and even to this day large portion of their population lives in the mountains - close to Taliban). Thus all religion-based issues going on.
I talked to many immigrants in my life - they all say they come to Russia because all jobs are already taken in their home countries. And that's true.
[editline]5th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;42765763]He had a thousand random immigrants arrested because they [I]might[/I] be illegal
[/QUOTE]
And how does this differ from raiding, I don't know, possible meth labs because people who work there might be illegal? Their businesses evade taxes by employing illegal immigrants. And don't forget that almost every immigrant has a faked passport (it's really hard to migrate from CIS countries to Russia - they simply cannot affort to apply and wait).
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;42760329]too bad russian society culture and people are awful[/QUOTE]
Thats not a nice thing to say. Stop generalizing.
[QUOTE=Kefirman;42766095]Thats not a nice thing to say. Stop generalizing.[/QUOTE]
I do agree with him, our people are indeed awful.
[QUOTE=qwerty000;42766134]I do agree with him, our people are indeed awful.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, the majority of people I know are really nice.
[QUOTE=Kefirman;42766161]I disagree, the majority of people[B] I know [/B]are really nice.[/QUOTE]
Ofcourse, why would anyone hang around with douches :v:
[QUOTE=thisispain;42764502]all my ancestors got killed by nationalists, nationalism is the bacterium rotting the apples on my tree
[editline]5th November 2013[/editline]
where do you get the nerve to insult someone else's intelligence[/QUOTE]
Takes one to know one
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42766351]Takes one to know one[/QUOTE]
that doesn't even make sense
[QUOTE=gudman;42762392]And what that has to do with what I said? Most people here acknowledge that Russian Federation inherited the Soviet past. What this has to do with "invasion" (because it's silly, Chechnya is part of Russia, how can you invade part of your own country?).[/QUOTE]
Chechnya has never been part of Russia. It was conquered in the 18th century and separatist movements have been violently suppressed since.
[QUOTE=Hellsten;42764389]Your grandpa had a father right? Should you curse all of your ancestors because your grandpa happened to be an SS officer? Do you know anything about said persons father? And his fathers father? There will always be bad apples, but you can't blame your entire family tree for it.[/QUOTE]
I have my own achievements, I don't need to leech off of dead people.
[QUOTE=1239the;42761265]holy [B]fuck[/B] the retard brigade is out in force in this thread
nationalism is racism dressed up as patriotism.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, but I don't think "racism" applies.
I mean, if a British Nationalist dislikes a French -and I'm using white people as an example- how can it be called "racism"?
Xenophobia would be the right term.
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