• With swing states all but secured, Clinton campaign moves into GOP strongholds
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[QUOTE=TheBloodyNine;51217624]By the time he was able to actually contest her many still didn't know he could do it, especially helped by a large ignorance in primary politics.[/QUOTE] Even well after the primaries whenever I talked to Democrats (whom I have to get past 10 Republicans to find any :v:) they seemingly didn't really know much about Sanders but thought he was alright but not as good as Clinton.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51217217]Good. Hopefully the Republican party loses so badly they never try to field another idiot like Trump again and are discredited for good.[/QUOTE] i already saw a republican strategist saying their problem was that the lesson to take away from this is to be more left leaning on social issues but still hard on immigration. WTF the WALL IS THE PROBLEM
[media]https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/787748100324503552[/media] Yes, a Clinton ad really did just include the 'turn the friggin frogs gay' line
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;51217285]Then we'd have political committees[/QUOTE] Outlaw political committees too, all campaign funding comes from the state. Candidates get a limited amount of funding for advertising and putting together a staff. Get the private parties out of public administration.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51218347]Outlaw political committees too, all campaign funding comes from the state. Candidates get a limited amount of funding for advertising and putting together a staff. Get the private parties out of public administration.[/QUOTE] Sounds like an easy way for the state to decide who gets what funding. [editline]17th October 2016[/editline] Corporations as political parties is literally just a convenience to support groups of people to support the same thing. Trying to ban them alltogether is just dumb.
[QUOTE=plunger435;51217509]Horrible idea. Political parties are run by private groups. If they wanted they could just select whichever candidate they wanted and it would be legal in your proposed state.[/QUOTE] Legal, yes, but the single-party system wouldn't be enshrined in law or anything. If the party ignores voters and just picks a candidate on their own, or even just sets up the elections poorly so people are dissatisfied, third parties (second parties?) can easily get votes and we're back to status quo ante.
[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51217851][media]https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/787748100324503552[/media] Yes, a Clinton ad really did just include the 'turn the friggin frogs gay' line[/QUOTE] The worst part is, I could share that with my little brother just to show him how bat-shit crazy some of these people can be, and his response will likely be "THEY'RE PUTTING [I]WHAT[/I] IN THE WATER [I]WHY?![/I]"
The Clinton campaign has now made a small ad buy in Texas as a poll shows Trump within the margin of error there [url]https://www.texastribune.org/2016/10/17/clinton-campaign-going-air-texas/[/url] According to 538 Clinton has a better chance of winning Texas than Trump has of winning "swing state" Pennsylvania (both very unlikely)
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51217217]Good. Hopefully the Republican party loses so badly they never try to field another idiot like Trump again and are discredited for good.[/QUOTE] Be careful what you ask for. You may regret it.
[QUOTE=smurfy;51222389]The Clinton campaign has now made a small ad buy in Texas as a poll shows Trump within the margin of error there [url]https://www.texastribune.org/2016/10/17/clinton-campaign-going-air-texas/[/url] According to 538 Clinton has a better chance of winning Texas than Trump has of winning "swing state" Pennsylvania (both very unlikely)[/QUOTE] Fuck me, I really regret not getting an absentee ballot in Texas instead of being lazy and going for a Minnesota vote. I thought that Trump clawed back enough ground to make Texas a pretty sure thing, and I cared a lot more about the local elections up in MN, but now it looks like my vote could actually matter in [I]fucking Texas[/I].
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;51217217]Good. Hopefully the Republican party loses so badly they never try to field another idiot like Trump again and are discredited for good.[/QUOTE] Why would you want the republican party gone? Always needs to be representatives of different views. Not all republicans are racist xenophobes, some just like the idea of small governments and state's rights. This is actually I am registered as an independent and not a democrat
[QUOTE=Glitchman;51222852]Why would you want the republican party gone? Always needs to be representatives of different views. Not all republicans are racist xenophobes, some just like the idea of small governments and state's rights. This is actually I am registered as an independent and not a democrat[/QUOTE] i completely agree, which is why hopefully the Republican party will be replaced by the Libertarian Party
[QUOTE=Potanis;51223638]i completely agree, which is why hopefully the Republican party will be replaced by the Libertarian Party[/QUOTE] Unless the Libertarian Party makes some major changes, I doubt that's going to happen. Gary Johnson ain't so bad, but the majority of the party members are batshit fucking crazies to the likeness that they actually believe that privatizing roads would be a good thing.
[QUOTE=Glitchman;51222852]Why would you want the republican party gone? Always needs to be representatives of different views. Not all republicans are racist xenophobes, some just like the idea of small governments and state's rights. This is actually I am registered as an independent and not a democrat[/QUOTE] The party's support is built around courting racists (and the like) and those deeply entrenched in their religious views (anti-LGBT rights, anti-pro-choice), on denying man-made climate change and removing social safety nets, and on protecting gun rights (which isn't objectively a negative). They have "secretly" pandered to some of the worsts parts of the US society just to stay in office and constantly hold the country back in terms of social change. There's plenty of good people in, and supporters of, the Republican party, but the party itself has built its present day foundation on a bed of shit and needs to replaced. This country needs to leap forward and catch up with the rest of the western world.
[QUOTE=TornadoAP;51224396]Unless the Libertarian Party makes some major changes, I doubt that's going to happen. Gary Johnson ain't so bad, but the majority of the party members are batshit fucking crazies to the likeness that they actually believe that privatizing roads would be a good thing.[/QUOTE] Third parties are naturally full of crazies. You have to be, in order to join a party that isn't going to win. Say you're a sensible fiscal conservative. Policy-wise, you agree about equally with the Republicans and Libertarians. Which party will you join? Clearly, the one that will actually win elections. And so sane conservatives end up in the Republican party. (Nutjobs end up in both, probably in equal number, but the third parties attract so few rational people that the proportions are much different). This becomes self-fulfilling, because the GOP is able to win only because it has enough normal people in its ranks. An exodus from the GOP would also be self-fulfilling, if it got sufficient inertia. Trump's driving a lot of the sane Republicans away. The more moderate ones might become Democrats, but the die-hard conservatives are either going independent, or to the Libertarians. That will overall moderate the nutjobbery of the Libertarian Party, making it yet more attractive to conservative undecideds. If the Libertarian Party gets enough people that it seems like it might be able to win, and if the Republican Party continues to disgust reasonable voters, they could take over. What's interesting is just how fast this could happen. If it ever happens, we could see it by the midterms. Or it could never happen. Nobody knows where the tipping point is. I think election day will play a big role - if we get an absolute bloodbath in the electoral college, if Republican strongholds like Texas or Alaska turn blue, if there's a 60/40 split in the Senate because downticket Republicans suffered, I think we might very likely see the end of the GOP. And of all the parties out there, the Libertarians are clearly best suited to take their spot in the intrinsic two-party system.
man and then trump won michigan AND a majority of the swing states, hilarious hubris.
Bit painful in hindsight...
[QUOTE=glyptodonteam;51498008]man and then trump won michigan AND a majority of the swing states, hilarious hubris.[/QUOTE] Almost as hilarious as you bumping an ancient thread.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;51498014]Bit painful in hindsight...[/QUOTE] oh man yeah it must be incredibly painful if you're an idiot who thought that the election was a sure thing.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;51498033]haha oh wow that sure tickles my funny bone also, speaking of bones, you bumped a 2 month old thread.[/QUOTE] speaking of bones, suck my bone [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Gimmick" - Novangel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=glyptodonteam;51498018]oh man yeah it must be incredibly painful if you're an idiot who thought that the election was a sure thing.[/QUOTE] Lol wow
[QUOTE=glyptodonteam;51498042]speaking of bones, suck my bone[/QUOTE] You joined just to get banned. R/The_Don is proud of you :downs:
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;51498014]Bit painful in hindsight...[/QUOTE] very
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