• ACS:Law kicked while they're down: First a DDoS, now leaked emails
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[QUOTE=GodKing;25031792]Made me think Monty Python. Can't find a video sadly.[/QUOTE] The Office Pirates sketch from the beginning of The Meaning of Life? damn, Capsman already posted it.
[QUOTE=nikomo;25042002]Disagree with something, call it retarded. A well-made counter-arguement. It's only illegal because of the dipshits in charge right now.[/QUOTE] So you really want piracy to be legal?
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25042162]So you really want piracy to be legal?[/QUOTE] Who wouldn't? I know a lot of people who generally wouldn't buy the game, even if they had the cash, so them pirating it isn't really any loss. It's a copy, it's not like shoplifting where there is a finite amount of it. 1's and 0's are not scarce.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25041970]The image is retarded though. You copy something that does not belong to you. You have no rights to copy it(copyright laws). You can call it whatever you want, but it's illegal and hurts developers. Virtual goods =/= physical goods. People spend time on making whatever they're making and then sell it for money. But you copy it for free. It's ok if 1 or 2 people do, but if everyone copies for free, developer gets no profit. That's why we have to suffer DRM, because piracy is not theft, thus it's OK.[/QUOTE] Your post jumps around so much and then your conclusion is self-contradictory, never mind having nothing at all to do with the rest of your content in the post. Additionally, your argument was a complete non-sequitur from the post you quoted, he wasn't saying that because piracy isn't theft, that it makes a correct thing to do, be it [i]mala de jure et in se[/i]. So the entirety of your post is rendered useless. The post you quoted is correct, even under the eyes of the law, piracy is not the same thing as theft.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;25042234]Who wouldn't? I know a lot of people who generally wouldn't buy the game, even if they had the cash, so them pirating it isn't really any loss. It's a copy, it's not like shoplifting where there is a finite amount of it. 1's and 0's are not scarce.[/QUOTE] You can't just let people download products that cost money however they want
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;25042265]Your post jumps around so much and then your conclusion is self-contradictory, never mind having nothing at all to do with the rest of your content in the post. Additionally, your argument was a complete non-sequitur from the post you quoted, he wasn't saying that because piracy isn't theft, that it makes a correct thing to do, be it [i]mala de jure et in se[/i]. So the entirety of your post is rendered useless. The post you quoted is correct, even under the eyes of the law, piracy is not the same thing as theft.[/QUOTE] Ok I see. Doesn't make it any more justifiable though.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25042333]Ok I see. Doesn't make it any more justifiable though.[/QUOTE] It does make the monetary effects of it almost impossible to accurately quantify.
[QUOTE=nikomo;25042002]Disagree with something, call it retarded. A well-made counter-arguement. It's only illegal because of the dipshits in charge right now.[/QUOTE] It's only illegal because people who make software need to make money too.
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25042329]You can't just let people download products that cost money however they want[/QUOTE] You can, because there's pretty much nothing anyone can do about it.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25042162]So you really want piracy to be legal?[/QUOTE] It's the best alternative to what we have right now. Wouldn't be needed if we had demo samples of pretty much [B]everything[/B]. Games, movies, music etc. Also the studios are being massive cocks about everything. You won't notice it if you're living in USA or something, but for something like TV shows, it takes forever to new shows to even become available for purchase to TV stations. And stuff like Netflix will never, ever reach my country because every place has their own laws on how a service like that would work.
Movies and music have demos. For movies it's trailers, for music it's youtube. Or usually e-stores include sample tracks.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25042642]Movies and music have demos. For movies it's trailers, for music it's youtube. Or usually e-stores include sample tracks.[/QUOTE] Trailers are marketing material which in no way represents the actual movie, the purpose of trailers is to get you to spend money on the movie, not to show the quality of the product. Under current law, music alone on Youtube is illegal, using music in a video is fine under fair use, but just having the song playing in a video that just has an image of an album is in no way an original piece of art. Online stores are not always available online or lock you into their platform. Also, even though you didn't say anything about this, I'll go ahead and mention game demos also usually do not include a big enough sample of the game to give an accurate representation. Also, software, usually the trial version also limit themselves so much you have no idea what the actual product is or they don't have any trial at all. You should know, you pirated 3ds max to try out if it's any good.
Actually max has fully featured 30 day trial.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25043270]Actually max has fully featured 30 day trial.[/QUOTE] And it's a good thing someone had the brains to do that. But not every single developer is smart enough.
[QUOTE=Kagrenak;25042265] Additionally, your argument was a complete non-sequitur from the post you quoted, he wasn't saying that because piracy isn't theft, that it makes a correct thing to do, be it [I]mala de jure et in se[/I]. So the entirety of your post is rendered useless.[/QUOTE] Better than I would have said it. :v: There isn't much point making horrible DRM like Ubisoft did, it punishes the paying customer more than the pirates. Make good games (I.E not shit like Modern Warfare 2) like S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Half-Life and people are more likely to buy them, produce shit and people are more likely to pirate it because why bother paying for something crappy?
[QUOTE=Rosek;25044566]Better than I would have said it. :v: There isn't much point making horrible DRM like Ubisoft did, it punishes the paying customer more than the pirates. Make good games (I.E not shit like Modern Warfare 2) like S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Half-Life and people are more likely to buy them, produce shit and people are more likely to pirate it because why bother paying for something crappy?[/QUOTE] Make good games (I.E not shit like S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Half-Life) like Modern Warfare 2 and Gears of War and people are more likely to buy them, produce shit and people are more likely to pirate it because why bother paying for something crappy?
[QUOTE=Rosek;25044566]Better than I would have said it. :v: There isn't much point making horrible DRM like Ubisoft did, it punishes the paying customer more than the pirates. Make good games (I.E not shit like Modern Warfare 2) like S.T.A.L.K.E.R and Half-Life and people are more likely to buy them, produce shit and people are more likely to pirate it because why bother paying for something crappy?[/QUOTE] You gotta be shitting. MW2 sold more copies than stalker and hl combined.
Combined times 2 [editline]11:59AM[/editline] or 1.5
What an idiot, he bought a CVT car...
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25044636]You gotta be shitting. MW2 sold more copies than stalker and hl combined.[/QUOTE] Then people obviously have extremely bad taste and all my previous posts should be disregarded.
[QUOTE=Rosek;25045351]Then people obviously have extremely bad taste and all my previous posts should be disregarded.[/QUOTE] Yep your taste is superior for no reason except because you think so
[QUOTE=Tetracycline;25045366]Yep your taste is superior for no reason except because you think so[/QUOTE] The story is horrible on MW2 and the gameplay it exactly the same as Modern Warfare 1.
[QUOTE=Rosek;25045465]The story is horrible on MW2 and the gameplay it exactly the same as Modern Warfare 1.[/QUOTE] Once again you act like it's a fact Story being horrible is an opinion, so stop acting like it's fact And the gameplay is the same, yes, but that isn't bad.
Hahahaha, Finally these bastards get what they need UPDATE: I found this in one of the Emails [quote]Was he made bankrupt before we became aware of the claim? If so we can still accept. If he was bankrupt after I fear it may be seen as a preference and we would not be able to accept the money. Daryl is good on this stuff, ask him to do a bit of research.[/quote] ? This one might get a laugh. [quote]Iam writting to you regarding the copyright infringement claim against myself ref m2lo10825781 and the last letter that i sent to you with a explanation.ihave received further comunication from yourself and since speaking on the phone on 27-5-2010 i was asked to send another email by one of your collegues to ask you to consider dropping the case,at no time did i download or copy as stated in previous emails the copyright material freddies british granny fuck 5.2 and 6 this kind of material descusts me and to be accused of downloading such offensive material discusts me,ive since stopped using peer to peer sites as obviously i,am not going to take the risk of future unfounded acusations based on a ip address and my use of peer to peer sites.i look forward to hearing from you asap your sincerely not giving out the name.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Rosek;25045465] the gameplay it exactly the same as Modern Warfare 1.[/QUOTE] Hey Ep1 and Ep2 have the same game play mechanics as Hl2. What shitty games right?
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25042642]Movies and music have demos. For movies it's trailers, for music it's youtube. Or usually e-stores include sample tracks.[/QUOTE] Listening to music on Youtube is a violation of copyright and doing so is no different than torrenting the same songs.
I love 4chan and their prank calls :v:
[QUOTE=johan_sm;25044636]You gotta be shitting. MW2 sold more copies than stalker and hl combined.[/QUOTE] on consoles
What kind of world do we live in where larcenists are the most honest, decent people in the world?
[QUOTE=Jiyoon;25046211]What kind of world do we live in where larcenists are the most honest, decent people in the world?[/QUOTE] The same one where the interests of a multi-billion dollar record label are more important than the interests of everyone else. If all of this anti-piracy stuff actually TRIED to help the little guy (the indie label, the guy running a distro out of his garage, whatever) I would likely support it. But it's designed to only help the companies that already rake in billions of dollars in profit.
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