The Liberator: The first downloadable 3D-printed gun gets test fired
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[QUOTE=Septimas;40548495]Getting ammo is easy, getting a gun, is still easy, but can be a hassle.
I can go into walmart and pick up a box of .22 easy.
Or buy them online.
Or buy from silk road.[/QUOTE]
Finding Ammo at wal-mart is like finding the fountain of youth currently.
I've gotten an ANCIENT bolt .22 rifle ive been dieing to shoot but no .22 for sale anywhere!
This reminds me of those plastic, disposable guns in Borderlands 2. Instead of reloading, you chuck the gun at your enemies and a new one would materialize in your hands.
[QUOTE=Frankiscool!;40548908]Finding Ammo at wal-mart is like finding the fountain of youth currently.
I've gotten an ANCIENT bolt .22 rifle ive been dieing to shoot but no .22 for sale anywhere![/QUOTE]
Or consider countries where ammunition purchase requires licenses.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;40548712]ban shovels you can [url=http://thebrigade.thechive.com/2012/12/06/diy-shovel-to-ak-47-50-photos/]make AK receivers out of bending them into shape and cutting holes in them[/url]
[img]http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/53.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
It's hard to find a picture that more perfectly distills the essence of everything that is Russia.
Needs a dash cam mounted on it.
I'm not particularly concerned about 3d printed guns right now, the materials are way too expensive and not durable enough for any kind of sustained use. I could see people printing out and using 30rnd magazines for regular rifles much more than printing out full guns.
It won't really proliferate until it becomes cheaper than buying regular weapons and magazines.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;40548703]It's probable that nobody on FP has a 3D printer with the density required unless they've got access to one at a school, which would likely be troublesome trying to print this at.
I do 3D Printing from time to time with different materials and can say that this would be far too expensive to be worth an end result. It's a great proof of concept, but people are freaking out like 3D printers are going to be dime-a-dozen sitting next to inkjets at your local office supply store, and everybody's just going to be printing these off left and right and having a field day shooting it up. hobbyist level printers like makerbot 2 are $2,000 starting and the material is extremely costly. There [i]have[/i] been barebones DIY kits at $99 here and there, but they printed thick layers (low density), with the accuracy of Michael J Fox suffering from caffeine withdrawal[/QUOTE]
You're right, the liberator is more of an ideological concept than a practical idea. It's not really making 3d printed guns publically available since the technology's too expensive, just like you said.
Give it 5 years, though, and we'll be able to afford 3d printers and everything that is being pioneered today but at a sufficient price and quality to make at home.
No one's gonna print a liberator if they want a DIY gun, it's just a big FUCK YOU to the arms industry of the future.
[QUOTE=Adbor;40549093]You're right, the liberator is more of an ideological concept than a practical idea. It's not really making 3d printed guns publically available since the technology's too expensive, just like you said.
Give it 5 years, though, and we'll be able to afford 3d printers and everything that is being pioneered today but at a sufficient price and quality to make at home.
No one's gonna print a liberator if they want a DIY gun, it's just a big FUCK YOU to the arms industry of the future.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
All technology needs a proof of concept, and the Liberator is such. It's not a great gun, it's not a durable one, and it's not cheap, but it is a proof of concept.
[QUOTE=Adbor;40549093]You're right, the liberator is more of an ideological concept than a practical idea. It's not really making 3d printed guns publically available since the technology's too expensive, just like you said.
Give it 5 years, though, and we'll be able to afford 3d printers and everything that is being pioneered today but at a sufficient price and quality to make at home.
No one's gonna print a liberator if they want a DIY gun, it's just a big FUCK YOU to the arms industry of the future.[/QUOTE]
It's an ideology, yeah, but the guy behind the project is practically a psychopath. Seeing him talk just creeps me out to no end.
It is cool that technology can do this, but the guy leading the team is such a collosal dick.
'Yeah it can kill people, but overall liberty wins'
Right...
So how many rounds can it fire off before you become more likely to kill yourself than anyone else?
Maybe one day we'll live in a world where there will be laws against materializing certain objects in your home
That's kind of cool to think about, in a weird way
Reminds me of the plastic gun John Malkovich had in [i]In the Line of Fire[/i]
[IMG]http://www.virtual-history.com/movie/photo/07a/large/07583.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;40549126]It's an ideology, yeah, but the guy behind the project is practically a psychopath. Seeing him talk just creeps me out to no end.[/QUOTE]
oh right, I remember this guy now
the project is a poster child for the future of this technology, but the creator is a different kinda posterchild altogether
A disposable handgun that can be easily melted down after use and mass produced at home is going to make our world much safer I think. Personally I welcome the added Freedom™ and Liberty™ we will all be afforded when there are hundreds of thousands of these Liberator Handguns™ on the streets. Thank you, Defense Distributed™ for totally not being filled with a bunch of Libertarian Knobheads™.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40549417]A disposable handgun that can be easily melted down after use and mass produced at home is going to make our world much safer I think. Personally I welcome the added Freedom™ and Liberty™ we will all be afforded when there are hundreds of thousands of these Liberator Handguns™ on the streets. Thank you, Defense Distributed™ for totally not being filled with a bunch of Libertarian Knobheads™.[/QUOTE]
I can't wait for this amount of Freedom™ and Liberty™ to invade all nations, because the guy behind Defense Distributed™ doesn't respect other nations laws!
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;40549435]I can't wait for this amount of Freedom™ and Liberty™ to invade all nations, because the guy behind Defense Distributed™ doesn't respect other nations laws![/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm sure other countries really appreciate how this guy is [del]essentially circumventing their firearms laws[/del] exporting Freedom™.
The name just gives it this weird kind of ironic feeling, that trailer aswell... It seems like a joke, but it's not.
[QUOTE=MrBluesy;40549462]The name just gives it this weird kind of ironic feeling, that trailer aswell... It seems like a joke, but it's not.[/QUOTE]
It's really cool technology surrounded by a bunch of weird libertarians making it undesirable to everyone else.
Wait a minute, does this gun shoot bitcoins?
Why did they place that fake ass sound effect over the gun firing, I was actually curious as to what a plastic gun would sound like.
Is this something a makerbot can make or does it require a higher grade professional printer?
There is a 3D printer at the art college I'm going to. So pumped to get to try shit like this.
Well not this specifically, but designing and making things for 3D print is gonna be awesome.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40549417]A disposable handgun that can be easily melted down after use and mass produced at home is going to make our world much safer I think. Personally I welcome the added Freedom™ and Liberty™ we will all be afforded when there are hundreds of thousands of these Liberator Handguns™ on the streets. Thank you, Defense Distributed™ for totally not being filled with a bunch of Libertarian Knobheads™.[/QUOTE]
You realise these cost a few grand just for the printer, right? It'll be cheaper in nearly every circumstance to buy a real gun illegally.
Bah, I hate guns overall and I don't like that this is possible.
I saw it coming and 3D printing is a GREAT invention but like with other great inventions we make weapons out of them.
Hopefully this won't be easy because I would be terrified that when/if 3D printers are cheaper that there will be more gun accidents in the Netherlands.
But that is just my fear of firearms(I do rather get shot then get stabbed) and weapons IRL.
(Read, I know it is very expensieve NOW but I am more worried about later when 3D printing gets popular).
[QUOTE=Rents;40549622]You realise these cost a few grand just for the printer, right? It'll be cheaper in nearly every circumstance to buy a real gun illegally.[/QUOTE]
In a decade or two 3D printers might end up being really cheap, like how paper printers were originally a few grand and gradually became cheaper.
[QUOTE=Valnar;40549648]In a decade or two 3D printers might end up being really cheap, like how paper printers were originally a few grand and gradually became cheaper.[/QUOTE]
You still need to get your hands on ammo or suitable explosives, which are usually heavily controlled, and while you can make those yourself too it's a pretty bad idea for a lot of reasons.
[QUOTE=Valnar;40549648]In a decade or two 3D printers might end up being really cheap, like how paper printers were originally a few grand and gradually became cheaper.[/QUOTE]
this isn't paper and ink
even though the tech is getting refined, the prices are remaining high because on a manufacturing level, the technology and materials are already widely accessible but still cost quite a bit.
[QUOTE=Rents;40549622]You realise these cost a few grand just for the printer, right? It'll be cheaper in nearly every circumstance to buy a real gun illegally.[/QUOTE]
Real guns aren't as untraceable.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40549790]Real guns aren't as untraceable.[/QUOTE]
Making them untracable is extremely easy, though
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40549790]Real guns aren't as untraceable.[/QUOTE]
You can already make real guns from pretty untraceable bits and pieces, that are cheaper and likely work better.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;40549699]this isn't paper and ink
even though the tech is getting refined, the prices are remaining high because on a manufacturing level, the technology and materials are already widely accessible but still cost quite a bit.[/QUOTE]
The original paper printers costed thousands of dollars, but now you can get some for under $100.
I'd say that there is a pretty good chance that within two decades 3D printers and the material for 3D printing will be cheap enough for home use.
There is the point about ammo, but ammo is easier to generally easier to get than ammo and guns are usually the things that get registered not ammo.
Hah! Checkmate, Obummer!
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