The Liberator: The first downloadable 3D-printed gun gets test fired - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40549417]A disposable handgun that can be easily melted down after use and mass produced at home is going to make our world much safer I think. Personally I welcome the added Freedom™ and Liberty™ we will all be afforded when there are hundreds of thousands of these Liberator Handguns™ on the streets. Thank you, Defense Distributed™ for totally not being filled with a bunch of Libertarian Knobheads™.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Rents;40549622]You realise these cost a few grand just for the printer, right? It'll be cheaper in nearly every circumstance to buy a real gun illegally.[/QUOTE] Do you guys not know what a 'proof of concept' is? The fact is that it is now possible to produce working firearms with a 3D printer, and so firearm regulation is going to have to change in response. Nobody is touting the Liberator as a viable personal defense weapon or an affordable and convenient to manufacture weapon, nor is anyone claiming that garage guns never existed before 3D printers. But this technology is only going to get better, and printed weapons are only going to become more and more effective. The day will come when it will be possible to manufacture an assault rifle out of mostly or entirely 3D printed components from a printer that is affordable to the average person, requiring no more work than assembly, and the American public has to get acquainted with this fact well before it happens.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40549790]Real guns aren't as untraceable.[/QUOTE] They might as well be most of the time. Life aint CSI, unless it's a very specific gun to tie person A to crime B there's thousands of throw away Saturday night special guns out there. [editline]6th May 2013[/editline] And they're a lot smaller than the Liberator too heh

[QUOTE=catbarf;40549869]assault rifle[/QUOTE] Stop using that term. [video=youtube;YjM9fcEzSJ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjM9fcEzSJ0[/video]

[QUOTE=DevinWatson;40550070]Stop using that term.[/QUOTE] you'll never get away from dumb media sensationalism. People like to have a common word to refer to things, even if it's not technically or even factually correct. reminds me of this old thing- [t]http://images.cryhavok.org/d/13794-1/Journalist+Guide+to+Guns.jpg[/t] which reminds me of the footage of an attack chopper watching a group of people who happened to be journalists in the middle east. They decided one guy's camera was a 'rocket launcher' and absolutely wrecked the group

Its called the Liberator because its based off of an already existing gun from WW2 called the Liberator that not only looks the same, but functions similarly. Hence why WW2 combat footage was used in the video.

And there goes my ability to print miniatures. Thanks, you gun-obsessed asshat, your 'Liberator' just hurt my freedoms.

3D printing guns seemed like a cool idea when it looked like a good way to mass produce simple pistols and rifles, this is just idiotic on so many levels.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;40550113]you'll never get away from dumb media sensationalism. People like to have a common word to refer to things, even if it's not technically or even factually correct. reminds me of this old thing- [t]http://images.cryhavok.org/d/13794-1/Journalist+Guide+to+Guns.jpg[/t] which reminds me of the footage of an attack chopper watching a group of people who happened to be journalists in the middle east. They decided one guy's camera was a 'rocket launcher' and absolutely wrecked the group[/QUOTE] and then destroyed the ambulance that came to try and help, all while referring to the people on the ground as ragheads god bless this wonderful nation

[QUOTE=DevinWatson;40550070]Stop using that term. [video=youtube;YjM9fcEzSJ0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjM9fcEzSJ0[/video][/QUOTE] He said (and meant) assault rifle, not "assault weapon" It will, at some point, be possible to manufacture actual assault rifles (the select fire, intermediate caliber kind, not the sensationalist media BS kind) with a 3D printer, that's the point he was making.

[QUOTE=daijitsu;40550113] which reminds me of the footage of an attack chopper watching a group of people who happened to be journalists in the middle east. They decided one guy's camera was a 'rocket launcher' and absolutely wrecked the group[/QUOTE] except they actually did have ak-47s and RPGs. there were journalists in the group but they were in a predominately armed group in an area that shots had come from directed at a US convoy

[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;40550567]except they actually did have ak-47s and RPGs. there were journalists in the group but they were in a predominately armed group in an area that shots had come from directed at a US convoy[/QUOTE] problem was they didn't seem to feel threatened until the photographer peeked around the corner with his 'rocket launcher' pointed in their direction, and they let loose soonafter. god that whole situation was a mess

[QUOTE=DevinWatson;40550070]Stop using that term.[/QUOTE] Oh okay, I'll just call them 'selective-fire small arms in intermediate calibers and feeding from 20 to 30 round external magazines' instead of 'assault rifle'- a term that has, unlike the bullshit term 'assault weapon', had a clear and concise meaning for almost 70 years now. If you're going to try to correct someone on trivialities, it helps to actually understand what you're talking about. The term 'assault rifle' is a hell of a lot older than the current gun debate and the nonsense about 'assault weapons'. The military term for an AK or AR platform weapon capable of fully automatic fire is and always has been assault rifle. And the point here is that with effective printing technology, people could actually produce assault rifles. Not 'assault weapons', not semi-automatic rifles derived from assault rifles, but actual Class III restricted automatic weapons and with potentially a much higher degree of precision and effectiveness than a garage gun made from Home Depot parts. These technology demonstrators like the Liberator are to highlight that existing gun legislation will be inadequate to control a scenario in which the limiting factor is a design, not resources and manufacturing equipment.

[QUOTE=Riller;40548489]Uh, no? Rubber band, nail, drainpipe = shotgun.[/QUOTE] And how many shots will that fire before it blows up exactly? [QUOTE=fishyfish777;40548712]ban shovels you can [url=http://thebrigade.thechive.com/2012/12/06/diy-shovel-to-ak-47-50-photos/]make AK receivers out of bending them into shape and cutting holes in them[/url] [img]http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/53.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Am I just stupid here or does it look like there's a shovel strapped to 3/4ths of an AK? That is to say, you might be able to make the receiver or what have you out of a shovel, you still need most of the AK to start with.

[QUOTE=Megafan;40551099]And how many shots will that fire before it blows up exactly? Am I just stupid here or does it look like there's a shovel strapped to 3/4ths of an AK? That is to say, you might be able to make the receiver or what have you out of a shovel, you still need most of the AK to start with.[/QUOTE] last I saw that picture they said that [b]most[/b] of the rifle was built from the shovel. Doesn't sound right at all though

[QUOTE=Megafan;40551099]Am I just stupid here or does it look like there's a shovel strapped to 3/4ths of an AK? That is to say, you might be able to make the receiver or what have you out of a shovel, you still need most of the AK to start with.[/QUOTE] The shovel was used to provide the stock and receiver body, and IIRC a piece of pipe was used for the barrel, and then the rest was actual AK parts welded and fitted in place, like the front sight and gas tube. So yeah, you can turn a shovel into an AK. If you have a full machine shop, welding equipment, conveniently-available AK guts to dump in the hollow body, a few weeks to months of spare time, and extensive experience with all these things. I get the feeling that some people don't really understand the potential implications of affordable 3D printing.

It already broke... [t]http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5183b15eecad04d23d000028-960/liberator-plastic-gun-1.jpg[/t] at least, just the trigger snapped off. They can always print a new one.

Lovely gun. But I want the epic music that starts when the gun in shot. Does anyone know what it is?

[QUOTE=catbarf;40551186]The shovel was used to provide the stock and receiver body, and IIRC a piece of pipe was used for the barrel, and then the rest was actual AK parts welded and fitted in place, like the front sight and gas tube. So yeah, you can turn a shovel into an AK. If you have a full machine shop, welding equipment, conveniently-available AK guts to dump in the hollow body, a few weeks to months of spare time, and extensive experience with all these things. I get the feeling that some people don't really understand the potential implications of affordable 3D printing.[/QUOTE] Well that's kind of my point. It's relatively useless to say things like "oh you can build an AK out of a shovel no problem", because of the craft skill needed to put it together, the equipment needed, and the other more weapon-specific parts you need to make it work.

[QUOTE=Disotrtion;40551191]It already broke... [t]http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5183b15eecad04d23d000028-960/liberator-plastic-gun-1.jpg[/t] at least, just the trigger snapped off. They can always print a new one.[/QUOTE] If its anything like the WW2 Liberator it gets its name from, its meant to be used as a means to get a better gun (by shooting someone who has one), rather than a long term weapon Kinda surprised that the trigger was the first thing to go though. Would've figured something under more stress would have gone first.

[QUOTE=Megafan;40551314]Well that's kind of my point. It's relatively useless to say things like "oh you can build an AK out of a shovel no problem", because of the craft skill needed to put it together, the equipment needed, and the other more weapon-specific parts you need to make it work.[/QUOTE] Exactly. The thing with 3D printing isn't that building a weapon from scratch was impossible before, it's that it took a lot of technical know-how, time, and industrial equipment to produce something more complicated than a single-shot zip gun. [url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/3170766/expedient-homemade-firearms-9mm-submachinegun-complete-instructions]One of the simplest pistol-caliber submachine guns you can build from scratch[/url] is still a pretty daunting effort to the average person. With a capable 3D printer and a set of plans, though, all that goes out the window, and the implications are huge. People have been saying for years that the technology is getting better and people will be able to produce firearms from the comfort of their own homes using just raw materials and plans from the Internet. The Liberator is nothing more (and isn't intended to be anything more) than a wake-up call to those who said it wouldn't happen or that it's so far off as to not be worth worrying about.

I want to see some industrial strength 3d printer that prints with a vapor of molten metal.

[QUOTE=catbarf;40551404][url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/3170766/expedient-homemade-firearms-9mm-submachinegun-complete-instructions]One of the simplest pistol-caliber submachine guns you can build from scratch[/url][/QUOTE] The introduction to this is pure comedy.

Besides, How much are 3D printers? You might as well buy a real gun.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1wV3lmbSv4[/media]

[QUOTE=Disotrtion;40551191]It already broke... [t]http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5183b15eecad04d23d000028-960/liberator-plastic-gun-1.jpg[/t] at least, just the trigger snapped off. They can always print a new one.[/QUOTE] not really the part I expected to go first, but I'd feel really uneasy about the rest of it exploding after something so simple as that just snapped off

[QUOTE=Karmah;40548438]Can I download a car yet?[/QUOTE] Give it 10 years

Enemy Liberator spotted!

[QUOTE=anis;40548362] [video=youtube;drPz6n6UXQY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drPz6n6UXQY&feature=player_embedded[/video][/QUOTE] This video is friggen hilarious. And people wonder why gun owners have amusing stereotypes.

After watching that CSI:NY episode I wonder if these guns are traceable.

I like how a bunch of websites are uploading that same video all at once now. [img]http://puu.sh/2OotO.jpg[/img]