• The Liberator: The first downloadable 3D-printed gun gets test fired
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Yay more shit to kill each other with, that's just the kind of shit we love isn't it.
Yes.
I'm suprised they're haven't been many Sci Fi novels that could've imagined/predicted this. This could be some high quality cyber punk material.
This is why we can't have nice things, watch as the US starts bringing the hammer down on 3D printers making it much harder for people who would use them to make things other than weapons to buy them.
[QUOTE=daijitsu;40548703]It's probable that nobody on FP has a 3D printer with the density required unless they've got access to one at a school, which would likely be troublesome trying to print this at. I do 3D Printing from time to time with different materials and can say that this would be far too expensive to be worth an end result. It's a great proof of concept, but people are freaking out like 3D printers are going to be dime-a-dozen sitting next to inkjets at your local office supply store, and everybody's just going to be printing these off left and right and having a field day shooting it up. hobbyist level printers like makerbot 2 are $2,000 starting and the material is extremely costly. There [i]have[/i] been barebones DIY kits at $99 here and there, but they printed thick layers (low density), with the accuracy of Michael J Fox suffering from caffeine withdrawal[/QUOTE] i actually have access to two industrial strength printers and one makerbot, so i can make a few of these if you guys give me food
What's the shelf life of the materials involved here? I mean, if you printed 500 of these guns and stuck them in the attic, are they still going to be able to fire in 5 years time? Sometimes the materials degrade in strange ways due to the production process and I wonder if this is any different. Also, these would be technically untraceable right? If you can get it to print a bullet that CAN be fired once, then you've gone 99% of the way to building a gun that will pass right through metal detectors and things like Airport security. As cool as it is, it's also a very scary concept.
If 3D Printers and the materials become affordable would it be the 2nd Wild West where everyone has a gun?
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-EmLcQQVJg"]Have someone else's opinions on this.[/URL]
Heres a less dramatic video of its loading and firing if anyone wants to hear the (extremely underwhelming) sound of it firing: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_wfF9pZZlo[/media]
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;40555868]Heres a less dramatic video of its loading and firing if anyone wants to hear the (extremely underwhelming) sound of it firing: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_wfF9pZZlo[/media][/QUOTE] I think it's a .380 auto, not exactly a powerful cartridge. And apparently stepping it up caused the gun to burst.
3d printers are way to expensive for most people so I think this won't takeoff, and there won't be very many of these guns going around.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;40555868]Heres a less dramatic video of its loading and firing if anyone wants to hear the (extremely underwhelming) sound of it firing: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_wfF9pZZlo[/media][/QUOTE] I'm glad that they brought a Roman Catholic Priest to the test shooting.
[QUOTE=catbarf;40551404]Exactly. The thing with 3D printing isn't that building a weapon from scratch was impossible before, it's that it took a lot of technical know-how, time, and industrial equipment to produce something more complicated than a single-shot zip gun. [url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/3170766/expedient-homemade-firearms-9mm-submachinegun-complete-instructions]One of the simplest pistol-caliber submachine guns you can build from scratch[/url] is still a pretty daunting effort to the average person. With a capable 3D printer and a set of plans, though, all that goes out the window, and the implications are huge. People have been saying for years that the technology is getting better and people will be able to produce firearms from the comfort of their own homes using just raw materials and plans from the Internet. The Liberator is nothing more ([B]and isn't intended to be anything more[/B]) than a wake-up call to those who said it wouldn't happen or that it's so far off as to not be worth worrying about.[/QUOTE] Have you not seen this guy talk, or the sociopathical agenda he's pushing?
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;40556961]Have you not seen this guy talk, or the sociopathical agenda he's pushing?[/QUOTE] ..I'm just waiting for a video to crop up....
[QUOTE=Matrix374;40555682]If 3D Printers and the materials become affordable would it be the 2nd Wild West where everyone has a gun?[/QUOTE] I don't think that will be happening anytime soon where we come from though. The import tax/duty for any raw materials into Malaysia is super insane.
This isn't disturbing at all
[QUOTE=psychojake;40548927]This reminds me of those plastic, disposable guns in Borderlands 2. Instead of reloading, you chuck the gun at your enemies and a new one would materialize in your hands.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXEd9c76U9g[/media] (they're not plastic though)
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;40549640]Bah, I hate guns overall and I don't like that this is possible. I saw it coming and 3D printing is a GREAT invention but like with other great inventions we make weapons out of them. Hopefully this won't be easy because I would be terrified that when/if 3D printers are cheaper that there will be more gun accidents in the Netherlands. But that is just my fear of firearms(I do rather get shot then get stabbed) and weapons IRL. (Read, I know it is very expensieve NOW but I am more worried about later when 3D printing gets popular).[/QUOTE] Sorry to burst your bubble but Dutch gun laws are lax as fuck, and it's cheaper to just own a firearm here than print one of these things.
[QUOTE=GoldenDargon;40555562]This is why we can't have nice things, watch as the US starts bringing the hammer down on 3D printers making it much harder for people who would use them to make things other than weapons to buy them.[/QUOTE] can I just I know [u]you[/u]'re not saying this as a direct thing, but people who [i]do[/i] make the "slippery slope" and "if potatoes need peeling you'll be forced to peel your apples" mentalities are just stupid and baseless. "Ban cars", "Ban printers", these "see, you shouldn't regulate guns because this other stuff isn't banned" side-steps have zero relation to the issues and serve no purpose other than to let people who want to make a point about guns stroke their ego about how much they think they just zinged
I don't get how everybody says it's no big deal. Sure, right now a normal gun is much better. But it's a start.
maybe if he spent less time forming opinions and more time engineering it could fire 2 shots
[QUOTE=edberg;40560223]maybe if he spent less time forming opinions and more time engineering it could fire 2 shots[/QUOTE] what point is a weapon like this if you can't use it to brandish your ego
Well looks like I'll be printing this off shortly (haha just kidding my dumb sister and her friends bumped my printer and messed the alignment up. Lesson learned: hide 3D printer) [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] also why does everyone choose makerbot as model of 3D printer. That thing is a piece of shit [editline]7th May 2013[/editline] relative to price. much better choices around $2k
[QUOTE=Zeneros;40549026]Or consider countries where ammunition purchase requires licenses.[/QUOTE] Print the ammo too?
[QUOTE=Megafan;40551314]Well that's kind of my point. It's relatively useless to say things like "oh you can build an AK out of a shovel no problem", because of the craft skill needed to put it together, the equipment needed, and the other more weapon-specific parts you need to make it work.[/QUOTE] It's an interesting little thing just because he made the receiver stock out of a shovel - and the receiver of a gun is the part in a gun that's [I]regulated[/I] as a gun - ie, you can buy any of the other parts of a gun simply online with little regulation to stop you but you can't buy a receiver online without an FFL because it's considered a gun. That, and the receiver is the main part of the weapon that everything slots into. And the fact that he managed to make two of the main components of an AK47 by riveting a shovel into shape.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;40548712]ban shovels you can [url=http://thebrigade.thechive.com/2012/12/06/diy-shovel-to-ak-47-50-photos/]make AK receivers out of bending them into shape and cutting holes in them[/url] [img]http://www.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/53.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] [img]http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Toilet-seat-AK-47.jpg[/img] step it up senpai
[QUOTE=G-Strogg;40549126]It's an ideology, yeah, but the guy behind the project is practically a [b]psychopath[/b]. Seeing him talk just creeps me out to no end.[/QUOTE] Was getting ready to post until I saw your post. The guy is a complete fucking nutter I watched the vice documentary on him awhile ago he's bonkers.
i'm all for gun rights and gun ownership and shit, but this guy is a goddamn wacko why can't people just straight up say "guns are cool and i like them" instead "i need them to protect muh freedom from obummer and his drone strikes"
Even if someone printed this out. They'll hardly be able to shoot up their school with it.
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