Man faces prison for allegedly stealing $1 soda from McDonald's - Polidicks

He had a history of stealing, stealing is stealing. If I came in to your home and stole one dollar wouldn't you be upset? Wouldn't you feel violated and unsafe at some level? Obviously this guy has an issue, just because the you read what the max sentence is does not mean he will get that. I don't care how big a corporation is, it is a business not a charity. They can't just give shit away, the cups are suppose to be for water. If anything he needs to go to a mental hospital or something.

I stole stuff too when i was younger. mostly because i felt like i was somehow bringing down the institution by doing so, and because i wanted to impress a girl. but nooo, i guess sneaking out some custard creams wasn't impressive enough for miss i-wish-i-could-murder-my-parents.

[QUOTE=MR-X;35740407] If I came in to your home and stole one dollar wouldn't you be upset? Wouldn't you feel violated and unsafe at some level?[/QUOTE] no because if he actually came into my house to steal a dollar i'd feel bad because someone was actually that desperate enough. then i'd give him like a fiver.

[QUOTE=venn178;35739643]A serial petty thief? Really? This is Florida though, so I'm not surprised at the sentence.[/QUOTE] It's Florida, be glad the manager didn't call on Stand Your Ground and pull a pisto when the guy cursed at him.

[QUOTE=Omali;35740477]It's Florida, be glad the manager didn't call on Stand Your Ground and pull a pisto when the guy cursed at him.[/QUOTE] I hate everything you stand for and everyone you love seriously leave that case out of the discussion, it's not relevant in any way

If all his convictions are minor petty thefts and all he did was steal a $1 soda, be drunk and refuse to leave that still doesn't add up to a 5 year prison sentence in any decent, first world country. Sure jail time and a conviction is fine but five fucking years? [editline]28th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35740587]I hate everything you stand for and everyone you love seriously leave that case out of the discussion, it's not relevant in any way[/QUOTE] Stand Your Ground is a law in Florida, I don't think he was talking about the Trayvon case bro.

[QUOTE=waxrock;35740131]I don't suppose it's a good thing that I do this occasionally (ask for a water cup and fill it with iced tea).[/QUOTE] I'm forwarding this confession to the authorities.

[QUOTE=Reds;35739654]Really. It costs less than ten cents and they couldn't just let him go. Congratulations Florida, you're even more pathetic than usual.[/QUOTE] did you read it the management tried to get him to leave before getting the cops involved and the idiot refused to go

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35740595]If all his convictions are minor petty thefts and all he did was steal a $1 soda, be drunk and refuse to leave that still doesn't add up to a 5 year prison sentence in any decent, first world country. Sure jail time and a conviction is fine but five fucking years? [editline]28th April 2012[/editline] Stand Your Ground is a law in Florida, I don't think he was talking about the Trayvon case bro.[/QUOTE] Maximum sentence is 5 years, that is as high as they can do. It does not mean he will get it. People need to stop getting caught up on that. Plus it is the three strikes law, he has previous convictions with the same charge so after you do that shit 3 times it is automatically upped to a felony. If you can't learn by then something is really wrong with you.

fuck dude that part was even bolded come on

[QUOTE=MR-X;35740648]Maximum sentence is 5 years, that is as high as they can do. It does not mean he will get it. People need to stop getting caught up on that. Plus it is the three strikes law, he has previous convictions with the same charge so after you do that shit 3 times it is automatically upped to a felony. If you can't learn by then something is really wrong with you.[/QUOTE] Yes, I know he probably won't get five years, I just think it's rather absurd that it would even be possible for him to get five years. Also, three strike laws are fucking stupid, imo. It works in Kindergarten but not really in society.

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35740676]Yes, I know he probably won't get five years, I just think it's rather absurd that it would even be possible for him to get five years. Also, three strike laws are fucking stupid, imo. It works in Kindergarten but not really in society.[/QUOTE] Do you have a better solution for a person with repeat offenses?

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35740676]Yes, I know he probably won't get five years, I just think it's rather absurd that it would even be possible for him to get five years. Also, three strike laws are fucking stupid, imo. It works in Kindergarten but not really in society.[/QUOTE] 3-strikes is dumb because of its arbitrary criteria, not because it addresses recidivism.

[QUOTE=GodKing;35740696]Do you have a better solution for a person with repeat offenses?[/QUOTE] Not particularly, but I don't feel that the three strike system is any improvement over what we already have in place. I feel like it removes the severity of the crimes and pins an overly harsh punishment for the third offense. The guy's a petty thief and a loud drunk, not a felon. [editline]28th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;35740713]3-strikes is dumb because of its arbitrary criteria, not because it addresses recidivism.[/QUOTE] I didn't say it was dumb because it addresses recidivism. I'm fine with some kind of law in place to deal with repeat offenders, but three misdemeanors do not equal up to a felony, especially not when they amount to nothing but petty thievery.

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35740595]Stand Your Ground is a law in Florida, I don't think he was talking about the Trayvon case bro.[/QUOTE] stand your ground is a law in almost every state, though it's called differently in many states. He's bringing up a perfectly parallel situation in the same state.

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35740767]stand your ground is a law in almost every state[/QUOTE] 'Kay. You're still overreacting over nothing.

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35740676]Yes, I know he probably won't get five years, I just think it's rather absurd that it would even be possible for him to get five years. Also, three strike laws are fucking stupid, imo. It works in Kindergarten but not really in society.[/QUOTE] It was designed to keep repeat offenders out of the streets. People demanded it after a string of murder/rapes that continued to happen after certain offenders got released. It isn't suppose to scare people, because any reasonable will learn. There are a lot of people that do shit and barely cross the line because they know they can get away with it. Well they do it 3 or more times then they can't get away with it and it all catches up to them. I mean, after 3 times of the same offense you got to start wondering.

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35740767]stand your ground is a law in almost every state, though it's called differently in many states. He's bringing up a perfectly parallel situation in the same state.[/QUOTE] Only 11 states have established and codified Stand-Your-Ground laws. You're confusing Stand-Your-Ground with Castle Doctrine.

-snop- missed a bit of the article

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;35740834]It would have cost the state one dollar to refund the man, and give the thief a slap on the wrist. Instead, they're wasting thousands on legal bullshit. wow.[/QUOTE] nope [QUOTE=Lankist;35739954]It isn't because he stole the shit, it's because he has a history of petty theft and was unapologetic about it. If he'd been like "alright, you got me, here's a dollar," it wouldn't have gone this far. People like this figure they can get away with the little shit if they play chicken with the law. Which is why he got sentenced. He figured nobody would press charges and/or the state would let it slide. He was wrong, and he has nobody to blame but himself. He's practically daring the legal system for a conviction, which is like taunting a bull. It doesn't end well. EDIT: Misphrased. Which is why he is [I]going[/I] to get sentenced.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MR-X;35740805]It was designed to keep repeat offenders out of the streets. People demanded it after a string of murder/rapes that continued to happen after certain offenders got released. It isn't suppose to scare people, because any reasonable will learn. There are a lot of people that do shit and barely cross the line because they know they can get away with it. Well they do it 3 or more times then they can't get away with it and it all catches up to them. I mean, after 3 times of the same offense you got to start wondering.[/QUOTE] I don't see any problem with this applying to rape which is much worse than petty thievery. My problem lies in the possibility that this man could go to jail for years for stealing a miniscule amount of merchandise and being drunk and loud. Spending over a year in jail is not something to scoff at. The crime just doesn't fit the punishment.

yeah like... stealing the soda is alright but if the manager fucking comes out and tells you to pay for it just shell out the dollar

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35740767]He's bringing up a perfectly parallel situation in the same state.[/QUOTE] Possibly, but I still don't see it. If he wants to come in and explain though he can be my guest.

[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;35740834]It would have cost the state one dollar to refund the man, and give the thief a slap on the wrist. Instead, they're wasting thousands on legal bullshit. wow.[/QUOTE] he's a repeat offender, he's had his slap on the wrist [editline]28th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;35740830]Only 11 states have established and codified Stand-Your-Ground laws. You're confusing Stand-Your-Ground with Castle Doctrine.[/QUOTE] and almost all of them have stand your ground as a case law

[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35740890]and almost all of them have stand your ground as a case law[/QUOTE] Which is very iffy and, in something like the Treyvon(sp?) case, would likely get ousted without some manner of codified law in place. The case law is still in place because it's rare to find someone stupid enough to actually exercise it. Most people have the sense to stand down or run when there's danger, and not up-the-ante and start a firefight. Duty to Retreat tends to take precedence in non-codified Castle Doctrine. [editline]28th April 2012[/editline] Dude you can rate disagree all you want I've actually handled this research before.

[QUOTE=J!NX;35740396]not trying to act like a bad ass I was a kid, if you didn't do at least a [I]little [/I]crap then you are probably really boring unless of course you're a perfect, law bidding citizen that never has even so much as loitered.[/QUOTE] So i'm boring because i don't want to be stuck working for minimum wage (next to you) because i have a criminal record for stealing a few dollars worth of goods? i have to commit crimes to be considered "not boring" in your books? OKAY! well i did triple the speed limit on the i5 the other day, happy? petty crimes do not make you cool. get over yourself.

Well yeah a lot of completely straight edge people tend to be boring but I think it's the boring personality that makes them not want to do anything like that too but that's not even true all the time. That's kind of just the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Even what I just said is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Like my friend joe for example, he's a law abiding citizen and would never do anything illegal ever and he's the wittiest person I know. and then there's like half the people at my school who are fucking sketchy as shit and a lot of them just have really boring personalities. Like all the shit that comes out of their mouth is uninteresting.

[QUOTE=McCarthy;35741055]So i'm boring because i don't want to be stuck working for minimum wage (next to you) because i have a criminal record for stealing a few dollars worth of goods? i have to commit crimes to be considered "not boring" in your books? OKAY! well i did triple the speed limit on the i5 the other day, happy? petty crimes do not make you cool. get over yourself.[/QUOTE] stealing soda from a super-market won't get you a criminal record

[QUOTE=McCarthy;35741055]So i'm boring because i don't want to be stuck working for minimum wage (next to you) because i have a criminal record for stealing a few dollars worth of goods? i have to commit crimes to be considered "not boring" in your books? OKAY! well i did triple the speed limit on the i5 the other day, happy? petty crimes do not make you cool. get over yourself.[/QUOTE] Oh I am going to arrest your ass.

[img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110626031341/gameofthrones/images/5/5f/Joffrey_Baratheon_2.jpg[/img] Put his head on a spike and rape all of his relatives