[QUOTE=mgear;17479474]Cats are also small as hell, independent from people, and adaptable. Dogs start whimpering as soon as they hear thunder.[/QUOTE]
Generalization. Not all dogs whimper from lightning.
When there's as many as these stories as there is for Dogs and when you can put a cat to work on tracking, defending, herding, hunting and other work, please notify me...
[QUOTE=Str4t0s;17478896]Cats are credit to humanity, they saved us from the diseases transmitted by rats, now they save us from fires.
Soon, they will be able to soak radiation.[/QUOTE]
It is common knowlege that cats have 18 half-lives!
[img]http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/17166/796279-wadsworth_large.jpg[/img]
as much as i prefer cats to dogs, you must understand that dogs are indeed used for the purposes other posters have mentioned, and, have saved more people
[QUOTE=professional;17479548]Generalization. Not all dogs whimper from lightning.
When there's as many as these stories as there is for Dogs and when you can put a cat to work on tracking, defending, herding, hunting and other work, please notify me...[/QUOTE]
Dogs are also more intimating, easier to train, and actually listen to commands. That is the reason this story is cool, because cats normally put themselves first, others last. House-cats are far less domesticated than dogs. They are close to their wild relatives, while dogs have even changed shape.
Wow really too bad I'm allergic to cats.
In before stupid lolcats macro..... no that dog one doesn't count.
Just I started reading this thread my cat wonders in and starts trying to attack the cursor again, so I lift him off the desk and ask him 'Would you save me from a fire?'. He just looks up at me then starts looking around awkwardly like a small child and runs off...
Little sod...
Who says dog's are mans best friend? :P
[QUOTE=Killergam;17479730]Who says dog's are mans best friend? :P[/QUOTE]
Dog owners?
[quote]"This just highlights the importance of having working smoke detectors inside your home."[/quote]
A cat is fine too.
Oh wow, I live in Bracknell.
[QUOTE=mgear;17479599]. They are close to their wild relatives, while dogs have even changed shape.[/QUOTE]
If you're implying that domesticated cats are close to Large wild cats such as the Tiger, Lion or Panther, they are [B]not[/B].
That is awsome.
[QUOTE=professional;17479903]If you're implying that domesticated cats are close to Large wild cats such as the Tiger, Lion or Panther, they are [B]not[/B].[/QUOTE]
Looks exactly like a house cat, yet it is not domesticated at all.
[img_thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/European_Wildcat_Nationalpark_Bayerischer_Wald_02.jpg[/img_thumb]
A wolf is the closest, somewhat friendly wild dog and it even has a different shaped head, a lower tail, and pointy ears.
When I saw the thread title I was expecting the badage boys.
[QUOTE=mgear;17479925]Looks exactly like a house cat, yet it is not domesticated at all.
A wolf is the closest, somewhat friendly wild dog and it even has a different shaped head, a lower tail, and pointy ears.[/QUOTE]
There's a huge difference between wildcats/feral cats and apex predator cats like Tigers and Lions, and I don't just mean size wise either. Besides that, alot of Feral cat species were domesticated cats that got back into the wild and crossbred with smaller feral cats.
Just to clarify as well, the average domesticated dog breed is nowhere near a Grey wolf for example. They have different prey drives, they have different social structures, different genetic behaviors and different dietary acceptances. You'll often get terribly misinformed people who think that because their dog has a "wolfy" look like a husky for example, they think it's genetically closer to a Grey Wolf, when infact, it's far from it.
[QUOTE=mgear;17479925]
A wolf is the closest, somewhat friendly [b]wild dog[/b] and it even.[/QUOTE]
And this is what I must stress to point out. Wolves are not wild dogs.
Misson complete
[QUOTE=professional;17480040]There's a huge difference between wildcats/feral cats and apex predator cats like Tigers and Lions, and I don't just mean size wise either. Besides that, alot of Feral cat species were domesticated cats that got back into the wild and crossbred with smaller feral cats.
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That isn't a feral cat that I posted. Feral is a domesticated animal, that has returned to wild state. The picture of that cat is a fully wild animal.
[QUOTE=professional;17480040]And this is what I must stress to point out. Wolves are not wild dogs.[/QUOTE]
They were never domesticated, so therefor they are considered wild. Wolves share the same DNA strands as domesticated dogs.
Also, maybe you should take a note from wikipedia...
[quote]The dog (Canis lupus familiaris, pronounced /ˈkeɪ.nis ˈluːpəs fʌˈmɪliɛəris/) is a domesticated form of the Gray Wolf, a member of the Canidae family of the order Carnivora.[/quote]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog[/url]
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Dogs are breed for hunting, domesticated house cats are not. End of story, stop bitching because a cat did something that dogs occasionally do.
I'd buy that cat the biggest fucking ball of wool in the world.
[QUOTE=mgear;17480252]That isn't a feral cat that I posted. Feral is a domesticated animal, that has returned to wild state. The picture of that cat is a fully wild animal.
They were never domesticated, so therefor they are considered wild. Wolves share the same DNA strands as domesticated dogs.
Also, maybe you should take a note from wikipedia...
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog[/url]
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Take your own notes, it clearly states that dogs are domesticated form of Gray wolves. Wolves are not wild [B]dogs[/B], it's redundant and wrong to call them wild dogs.
I never disputed that wolves and dogs share the same DNA strands. In that regard, so do domesticated cats and wildcats. Calling a dog a wolf or vice versa however is inherently wrong. A wild dog is not a Wolf, a Wolf is not a wild dog.
Lions and Tigers also share DNA, but that doesn't make them at all the same, they are hugely different in terms of behaviors, social structures and genetic traits. Chimps and Humans share the same DNA yet we are hardly the same are we?
[QUOTE=professional;17481038]Take your own notes, it clearly states that dogs are domesticated form of Gray wolves. Wolves are not wild [B]dogs[/B], it's redundant and wrong to call them wild dogs.
I never disputed that wolves and dogs share the same DNA strands. In that regard, so do domesticated cats and wildcats. Calling a dog a wolf or vice versa however is inherently wrong. A wild dog is not a Wolf, a Wolf is not a wild dog.
Lions and Tigers also share DNA, but that doesn't make them at all the same, they are hugely different in terms of behaviors, social structures and genetic traits. Chimps and Humans share the same DNA yet we are hardly the same are we?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but dogs were wolves long time ago that changed over a long time by the human influence to the dogs they are today. If by some reason human race would dissapear from the earth, dogs would turn into wolves over time.
Also, notice the Wolves and tigers walk on 4 legs, they have all the same claws, similar shape of head and body, similar behaviors. Notice Lions and Tigers live in different climates and they evolved other traits, to make them easier to live in their climate.
Just check out that smug mother fucker. A dog would just wag his dick at the camera and then run away. Or bite someones neck open and chew on their insides.
[QUOTE=Str4t0s;17481171]Yes, but dogs were wolves long time ago that changed over a long time by the human influence to the dogs they are today. If by some reason human race would dissapear from the earth, dogs would turn into wolves over time.[/QUOTE]
No....
Dogs would turn into wild versions of whatever they currently are and evolve further accordingly. The Grey Wolf as we currently know it is more or less the same Grey Wolf from when we first started domesticating the bastards.
What I was disputing with mgear is he believes domesticated cats aren't far removed from their wild cousins. I'm disputing that they are just as far removed as most established dog breeds are from the Grey Wolf, not counting breeds which have had Grey Wolves introduced to the pool in recent generations (hybrid breeds, such as the Sarlooswolfhond, or the Czechslovakian wolf dog)
Oh wow, Bracknell?
My grandparents live in Bracknell, I wonder if they've heard about this :v:
[QUOTE=professional;17481038]Take your own notes, it clearly states that dogs are domesticated form of Gray wolves. Wolves are not wild [B]dogs[/B], it's redundant and wrong to call them wild dogs.
I never disputed that wolves and dogs share the same DNA strands. In that regard, so do domesticated cats and wildcats. Calling a dog a wolf or vice versa however is inherently wrong. A wild dog is not a Wolf, a Wolf is not a wild dog.
Lions and Tigers also share DNA, but that doesn't make them at all the same, they are hugely different in terms of behaviors, social structures and genetic traits. Chimps and Humans share the same DNA yet we are hardly the same are we?[/QUOTE]
Wolves are very close relatives to the African [highlight]Wild Dog[/highlight] as their front two toes are fused together, as on an African Wild Dog's toe.
Notice the word [b]wild[/b] in the name? Yeah...
[QUOTE=professional;17481254]No....
Dogs would turn into wild versions of whatever they currently are and evolve further accordingly. The Grey Wolf as we currently know it is more or less the same Grey Wolf from when we first started domesticating the bastards.
What I was disputing with mgear is he believes domesticated cats aren't far removed from their wild cousins. I'm disputing that they are just as far removed as most established dog breeds are from the Grey Wolf, not counting breeds which have had Grey Wolves introduced to the pool in recent generations (hybrid breeds, such as the Sarlooswolfhond, or the Czechslovakian wolf dog)[/QUOTE]
Tigers and normal cats have many differences, but even more similarities. Tigers are just climatized to the more harsher regions. For example, lets compare a car and a truck. They both have much differences, cars are smaller than trucks, have 4 seats instead of 2 etc. But they both are cars in some point, they have wheels engines steering wheels etc. Thats because trucks serve other roles than compact cars.
You deserve a medal, cat.
[QUOTE=mgear;17481369]Wolves are very close relatives to the African [highlight]Wild Dog[/highlight] as their front two toes are fused together, as on an African Wild Dog's toe.
Notice the word [b]wild[/b] in the name? Yeah...[/QUOTE]
The African Wild Dog isn't a Grey Wolf... Also, the name African Wild Dog is itself, incorrect.
By the logic you just used there, I may as well call humans chimps because we're similar to Chimps. Is that correct? No.
[QUOTE=professional;17481492]The African Wild Dog isn't a Wolf...
By the logic you just used there, I may as well call humans chimps because we're similar to Chimps. Is that correct? No.[/QUOTE]
I did not say it was a wolf. I said the wolf is closely related to a wild dog. The even have the same features.
Dogs have to be trained to do stuff otherwise they just eat everything and run away from you.
Cats don't.
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