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[QUOTE=Arrows;48019061]The world is hardly "Globalized" Only the west is diversified by forced diversity, china, india, korea, japan, the entire middle east and africa. None are diverse in terms of ethnicity or religion. The west is the only ones who are "progressive" and diversity is being forced upon everyone for corporate benefit.[/QUOTE] Holy shit "forced diversity", lol

[QUOTE=Killuah;48019066]ok. Read the post 2 posts above yours.[/QUOTE] And I say again, that's awesome that Jordan is doing something, but I'm telling you if a country doesn't want them they shouldn't be forced to take them. Democracy is really fucking convenient when it works in your favour, if a nation and it's people democratically decide they don't want them well then your up shit creek.

[QUOTE=Arrows;48019061]The world is hardly "Globalized" Only the west is diversified by forced diversity, china, india, korea, japan, the entire middle east and africa. None are diverse in terms of ethnicity or religion. The west is the only ones who are "progressive" and diversity is being forced upon everyone for corporate benefit.[/QUOTE] And you got this theory from...?

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019079]And I say again, that's awesome that Jordan is doing something, but I'm telling you if a country doesn't want them they shouldn't be forced to take them. Democracy is really fucking convenient when it works in your favour, if a nation and it's people democratically decide they don't want them well then your up shit creek.[/QUOTE] It's a Monarchy.

[QUOTE=Killuah;48019094]It's a Monarchy.[/QUOTE] So is the UK, the people still vote on laws.

I personally wouldn't mind Islamification of Europe if that was a thing.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;48018651]There's a disturbing trend towards immigration opposition and nativism lately, most of which just seems to be used as rallying points for the far-right groups.[/QUOTE] Maybe the more liberal parties should start changing their stances on mass immigration before the right takes over.

[QUOTE=Arrows;48019061]The world is hardly "Globalized" Only the west is diversified by forced diversity, china, india, korea, japan, the entire middle east and africa. None are diverse in terms of ethnicity or religion. The west is the only ones who are "progressive" and diversity is being forced upon everyone for corporate benefit.[/QUOTE] I am literally dying of laughter. That's like trying to say that India's population is composed wholly of Hindus, or China's of Buddhists. And take your tinfoil hat off, progressive thinking isn't encouraged for the sake of free trade, it's being encouraged because it's the sensible and right thing to do in any self-respecting modern society. Extremism and religious intolerance won't win anybody any friends in today's world.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48019106]Maybe the more liberal parties should start changing their stances on mass immigration before the right takes over.[/QUOTE] Yeah it's almost like the far right is growing because the typical mainstream parties won't actually listen to public opinion or something.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019097]So is the UK, the people still vote on laws.[/QUOTE] People actually don't vote on laws. In no country except for Switzerland.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019115]Yeah it's almost like the far right is growing because the typical mainstream parties won't actually listen to public opinion or something.[/QUOTE] If the public opinion is "kick out all the damn muzzies, they just rape people and throw acid on their wives", then the public opinion can be safely discarded as insane islamophobic bullshit.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019079]And I say again, that's awesome that Jordan is doing something, but I'm telling you if a country doesn't want them they shouldn't be forced to take them. Democracy is really fucking convenient when it works in your favour, if a nation and it's people democratically decide they don't want them well then your up shit creek.[/QUOTE] apart from the namdropping you're doing here, responsibility is not up for voting. Democracy or not.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019115]Yeah it's almost like the far right is growing because the typical mainstream parties won't actually listen to public opinion or something.[/QUOTE] So please tell me what benefits a far-right, euro-skeptic, anti-muslim, anti-immigrant nationalist party has. Seriously. Actually tell them to me. What fucking benefits do they have.

[QUOTE=Arrows;48019061]The world is hardly "Globalized" Only the west is diversified by forced diversity, [B]china[/B], india, korea, japan, the entire middle east and africa. None are diverse in terms of ethnicity or religion. The west is the only ones who are "progressive" and diversity is being forced upon everyone for corporate benefit.[/QUOTE] Yeah China is just the Chinese, it's not like there's enormous Turkish and Mongol populations in there, not to mention Tajiks, Koreans and Manchurians.

[QUOTE=Arrows;48019061]china, india, korea, japan, the entire middle east and africa. None are diverse in terms of ethnicity or religion. [/QUOTE] did you learn about Geography in school yet? [editline]21st June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48019141]So please tell me what benefits a far-right, euro-skeptic, anti-muslim, anti-immigrant nationalist party has. Seriously. Actually tell them to me. What fucking benefits do they have.[/QUOTE] they promise easy solutions for people who don't want to think for themselves hardly a benefit but you know what I mean

The only benefits I see of a far right party taking control are benefits for far-right leaning, rich white males.

[QUOTE=Killuah;48019121]People actually don't vote on laws. In no country except for Switzerland.[/QUOTE] Fine if you want to get finnicky they elect representatives to parliament who act on their behalf. Better? It still doesn't change the fact that the people have a democratic say in how their countries are ran and that across Europe there's a rising anti immigration sentiment.

[QUOTE=Arrows;48019061]The world is hardly "Globalized" Only the west is diversified by forced diversity, china, india, korea, japan, the entire middle east and africa. None are diverse in terms of ethnicity or religion. The west is the only ones who are "progressive" and diversity is being forced upon everyone for corporate benefit.[/QUOTE] This is insanity on the level of "Feminist SJWs want to steal my penis" Maybe the world is growing more diverse because travel is easier and people don't need to spend weeks doing something as simple as travel across their country? [editline]Edited:[/editline] Like seriously, what's more logical to you? Option #1: corporations are forcing the west to become more diverse for profit (on what, who the fuck knows) Option #2: People want to get out of shit countries and some have the opportunity, so they move to America/somewhere in Europe on the hope they won't be executed for being a different religion or race

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48019141]So please tell me what benefits a far-right, euro-skeptic, anti-muslim, anti-immigrant nationalist party has. Seriously. Actually tell them to me. What fucking benefits do they have.[/QUOTE] They have none, but they're the only parties who are actually addressing rising anti immgration sentiment, that's my whole point, not that far right parties are good, they're the fucking opposite, the point is people are moving towards them because they're the only ones saying anything whatsoever about reducing immigration, something that more and more people throughout Europe consider to be a problem. Some reading comprehension please.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019197] Some reading comprehension please.[/QUOTE] How in the fuck are you expecting me to get that from "the far right parties are actually listening to the public"?

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019181]Fine if you want to get finnicky they elect representatives to parliament who act on their behalf. Better? It still doesn't change the fact that the people have a democratic say in how their countries are ran and that across Europe there's a rising anti immigration sentiment.[/QUOTE] Yeah but when people glady accept the dosh from sold weapons and toxic gas and cheap oil (or in Jordans case mad dosh from the US because of politics)but then vote on not taking up the responsibility of the ramifications they are fuckheads and it still doesn't change the fact that the responsibility lies on the nations who got filthy rich through 200 years of exploitation.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48019204]How in the fuck are you expecting me to get that from "the far right parties are actually listening to the public"?[/QUOTE] I dunno, maybe from you understanding the context of the discussion? Being that we're talking about far right parties and their stance on immigration? I guess I falsely assumed that you could keep track of the main point of discussion being anti immigration and the secondary point that far right parties are involved in the discussion? So from that you would likely gather that the far right parties are rising in power as the public is experiencing a growing anti immigration sentiment and that mainstream parties are usually too scared to touch the topic with a 10 foot pole?

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019233]I dunno, maybe from you understanding the context of the discussion? Being that we're talking about far right parties and their stance on immigration? I guess I falsely assumed that you could keep track of the main point of discussion being anti immigration and the secondary point that far right parties are involved in the discussion? So from that you would likely gather that the far right parties are rising in power as the public is experiencing a growing anti immigration sentiment and that mainstream parties are usually too scared to touch the topic with a 10 foot pole?[/QUOTE] If you want people to understand what you mean, you need to articulate. You can't just say "Far-rights are the only ones who listen" and assume that people can get all of that meaning from it. Being that succinct makes you sound like you agree with the far right.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019233]I dunno, maybe from you understanding the context of the discussion? Being that we're talking about far right parties and their stance on immigration? I guess I falsely assumed that you could keep track of the main point of discussion being anti immigration and the secondary point that far right parties are involved in the discussion? So from that you would likely gather that the far right parties are rising in power as the public is experiencing a growing anti immigration sentiment and that mainstream parties are usually too scared to touch the topic with a 10 foot pole?[/QUOTE] fyi racists in power using ignorant people to fuel their xenophobic agenda isn't a good thing even if it is "politicians listening to what the people want"

[QUOTE=Killuah;48019221]Yeah but when people glady accept the dosh from sold weapons and toxic gas and cheap oil (or in Jordans case mad dosh from the US because of politics)but then vote on not taking up the responsibility of the ramifications they are fuckheads and it still doesn't change the fact that the responsibility lies on the nations who got filthy rich through 200 years of exploitation.[/QUOTE] Yeah we shouldn't be selling them arms either, you're going on about this like I'm in favour of fucking them over at every opportunity. All I'm saying is that if a country decides they don't want to take them in then they shouldn't have to, and that no other nation should have the capability to override the sovereign will of the people of whatever given nation is being discussed. If they want to take them in then great, well done for them, if not then whatever, they've exercised their right as a democratic populace to their leaders that they're not fond of the idea, you don't get to pick and fucking choose when democracy applies.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019233]I dunno, maybe from you understanding the context of the discussion? Being that we're talking about far right parties and their stance on immigration? I guess I falsely assumed that you could keep track of the main point of discussion being anti immigration and the secondary point that far right parties are involved in the discussion? So from that you would likely gather that the far right parties are rising in power as the public is experiencing a growing anti immigration sentiment and that mainstream parties are usually too scared to touch the topic with a 10 foot pole?[/QUOTE] mainstream parties are not " not touching the topic". The established parties are at least smart enough to not listen to the yellow press. The established parties are the ones who are saying that we can't escape our responsibility and that we need to do something. The established parties are the ones who are aware of the fact that there are no easy solutions and that it takes a lot of work, time and MONEY(that they are not willing to spend, agree on that) to find those solutions.

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019256]Yeah we shouldn't be selling them arms either, you're going on about this like I'm in favour of fucking them over at every opportunity. All I'm saying is that if a country decides they don't want to take them in then they shouldn't have to, and that no other nation should have the capability to override the sovereign will of the people of whatever given nation is being discussed. If they want to take them in then great, well done for them, if not then whatever, they've exercised their right as a democratic populace to their leaders that they're not fond of the idea, you don't get to pick and fucking choose when democracy applies.[/QUOTE] When it's a choice between the lives of many many innocents, or racists that are just scared of brown people, I'll take the innocents. Racists can go fuck themselves.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;48019265]When it's a choice between the lives of many many innocents, or racists that are just scared of brown people, I'll take the innocents. Racists can go fuck themselves.[/QUOTE] Cool, so you don't want a democratic society and all the shit that can bring?

[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;48019268]Cool, so you don't want a democratic society and all the shit that can bring?[/QUOTE] a democratic society would/should help refugees, not deny them tbh

[QUOTE=itisjuly;48019104]I personally wouldn't mind Islamification of Europe if that was a thing.[/QUOTE] I've lived in a predominently muslim community my entire life and I have never seen anything like [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nlIfn8tNA]this[/url]. European countries are taking in refugee's who have values that go completely against the progressive ideas that Europe has and its going to fundamentally change European society if they become a major voting bloc. Imagine fleeing an Islamic nation as a moderate Muslim just to find extremism in your new country. [QUOTE=Zonesylvania;48019114]progressive thinking isn't encouraged for the sake of free trade, it's being encouraged because it's the sensible and right thing to do in any self-respecting modern society.[/QUOTE] Diversity for diversities sake shouldn't trump the fact that European countries are suffering from high unemployment and strained social systems from all of the immigration and tough economic times [I]or[/I] the problems caused by the extremist ideas that these people are bringing into their respective countries. [QUOTE=Gwoodman;48019272]a democratic society would help refugees, not deny them tbh[/QUOTE] They should but not to the detriment of their own citizens.