Wikileaks Founder Threatens to Release 'Doomsday' File - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Piggah;26543442]I bet it's a troll face jpeg[/QUOTE] You bastard, you just made me laugh so hard in the middle of my lesson!

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26543981]When are people gonna get it in their skulls that telling the truth isn't always the best idea?[/QUOTE] people have a right to know what the government they voted for and pay taxes to is doing.

[QUOTE=EdoI;26543950]Faze, do you like governments behind their citizens' back? Wouldn't you want to know what is [i]your[/i] country, the government [i]you[/i] chose, is up to? Won't you call the politicians traitors? After all, if the file really is a "doomsday file", I believe there definitely are some fucked up secrets. Assange is just exposing the truth and their work. I wish he just publishes the password.[/QUOTE] The problem is that not all information is as innocent as letting the citizens know about misjustice and that it can be a threat to national security. I don't know what will be in this publication so it's impossible really to tell if it would fall under that category, but I bet a lot of politicians who thought things were dead and burried are shitting themselves right now.

[QUOTE=Wnd;26543969]It should be[/QUOTE] They haven't done anything illegal

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;26544039]people have a right to know what the government they voted for and pay taxes to is doing.[/QUOTE] Not if it poses a threat to national security, but otherwise I agree.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;26544039]people have a right to know what the government they voted for and pay taxes to is doing.[/QUOTE] Where does it say that? Come to think of it, why should we have the right to know EVERYTHING the government does, such as home security?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;26544039]people have a right to know what the government they voted for and pay taxes to is doing.[/QUOTE] To what extent? Revelations of corruption are good, but defense plans and banter not so much.

[QUOTE=Jallen;26544061]Not if it poses a threat to national security, but otherwise I agree.[/QUOTE] Most (if not all) of the cables (published so far) do not really pose a serious threat to any nations security it seems. There are a few that they should have probably not published.

Wasn't Wikileaks supposed to be about, you know, the truth about things people need to know about? Now it's just outright terrorism, and this asshole should be arrested.

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;26544069]To what extent? Revelations of corruption are good, but defense plans and banter not so much.[/QUOTE] The banter between diplomats doesn't seem to do any harm with people knowing (apparently no one trusted the US government in the first place..) but you are right about defence plans etc not needing to be out there (I don't think they are, at least not from Wikileaks). To be honest even people who hate what Wikileaks are doing must admit they have done a few good things over the years (Releasing a lot of info on the ACTA, the stuff on Scientology, the 9/11 pager messages and the air strike video are just a few examples)

I'll hope this "Doomsday file" won't be something that governments together have made a contract not to reveal it. That kind of shit could start a war.

Julian is a winner, simple.

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;26544069]To what extent? Revelations of corruption are good, but defense plans and banter not so much.[/QUOTE] anything that affects the citizens of the nation in question the citizens have a right to know.

I don't know why some of you support this, I'm all for freedom of information but I'd rather stay the fuck away from releasing information that can destroy society. Also, what this man is threatening to do isn't noble or right, it's plain terrorism.

This is really stepping over the line.

Thankfully this is just a last measure thing.

[QUOTE=Jsm;26544119]The banter between diplomats doesn't seem to do any harm with people knowing (apparently no one trusted the US government in the first place..) but you are right about defence plans etc not needing to be out there (I don't think they are, at least not from Wikileaks). To be honest even people who hate what Wikileaks are doing must admit they have done a few good things over the years (Releasing a lot of info on the ACTA, the stuff on Scientology, the 9/11 pager messages and the air strike video are just a few examples)[/QUOTE] It's not that it's harmful so much as that it's pointless. People deserve the ability to have private conversations, and just because they're powerful people doesn't make it any different. And yes, wikileaks has done a lot of good through the years. They're still doing good, but it's getting muddled with useless and sometimes even potentially harmful things.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;26544142]anything that affects the citizens of the nation in question the citizens have a right to know.[/QUOTE] I should have access to the list of porn websites Obama frequents. It's vital that I know what our president does in his free time.

[QUOTE=Phycosymo;26544153]It's one thing when your'e revealing government corruption but this is just outright terrorism.[/QUOTE] No it's just journalism. If anyone is a terrorist / traitor / the antichrist its who ever hands Wikileaks information.

[QUOTE=ForestRaptor;26544120]I'll hope this "Doomsday file" won't be something that governments together have made a contract not to reveal it. That kind of shit could start a war.[/QUOTE] If it was, no-one would be arresting him.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;26544142]anything that affects the citizens of the nation in question the citizens have a right to know.[/QUOTE] That's far too unspecific, and doesn't justify some of the good things wikileaks has shown. The Us spying on the UN has no real effect on the citizenry, but it's still important to know. Furthermore, how far do you extrapolate that? Immediate effect? Long term effect? There are some very sensitive things that could have a long term effect on the citizens but would be harmful to have public, like actual defense plans and such. Transparency is a good thing but it has it's limits.

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;26544157]It's not that it's harmful so much as that it's pointless. People deserve the ability to have private conversations, and just because they're powerful people doesn't make it any different. And yes, wikileaks has done a lot of good through the years. They're still doing good, but it's getting muddled with useless and sometimes even potentially harmful things.[/QUOTE] You are right about the private conversations, especially conversation's which are being reported by diplomats, not directly between diplomats. I would be quite annoyed if I said something in an embassy and it ended up all over the internet.

[QUOTE=Jsm;26544161]No it's just journalism. If anyone is a terrorist / traitor / the antichrist its who ever hands Wikileaks information.[/QUOTE] Damnit you had to quote my post the moment I changed my opinion on it :argh: But really, it's still stepping over the line if this kind of shit could destroy society.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26544158]I should have access to the list of porn websites Obama frequents. It's vital that I know what our president does in his free time.[/QUOTE] Perhaps that's the contents of the insurance file.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26544158]I should have access to the list of porn websites Obama frequents. It's vital that I know what our president does in his free time.[/QUOTE] yeah because that totally affects the citizens of the nation huh?

"Doomsday file" is a dumb name for it, it's called insurance.aes256. [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5636656/WikiLeaks_insurance.5723136.TPB.torrent]HERE[/url] is a torrent for it but it's useless without the passphrase, that's what's being threatened at the moment. No one knows what's in it, could be access codes for everything ever, a virus with a gig or so of filler or a 1080p Rickroll.

[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;26544183]That's far too unspecific, and doesn't justify some of the good things wikileaks has shown. The Us spying on the UN has no real effect on the citizenry, but it's still important to know. Furthermore, how far do you extrapolate that? Immediate effect? Long term effect? There are some very sensitive things that could have a long term effect on the citizens but would be harmful to have public, like actual defense plans and such. Transparency is a good thing but it has it's limits.[/QUOTE] the people of the US voted for the government that decided to spy on the UN and they deserve to know that that is what their government did.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;26544216]the people of the US voted for the government that decided to spy on the UN and they deserve to know that that is what their government did.[/QUOTE] Define limits. The citizens voted for a government that decides to do ____, so they deserve to know ____. What does ____ include and exclude?

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;26544193]yeah because that totally affects the citizens of the nation huh?[/QUOTE] It's the president, so it affects the people of America!

[QUOTE=Nerts;26544210]"Doomsday file" is a dumb name for it, it's called insurance.aes256, [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5636656/WikiLeaks_insurance.5723136.TPB.torrent]HERE[/url] is a torrent for it but it's useless without the passphrase, that's what's being threatened at the moment. No one knows what's in it, could be access codes for everything ever, a virus with a gig or so of filler or a [B]1080p Rickroll[/B].[/QUOTE] This is from someone who is effectively "from" the internet, wouldn't put it past him or Wikileaks. It would be fucking hilarious.