• Wikileaks Founder Threatens to Release 'Doomsday' File
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This thing is scaring the shit out of me.
[QUOTE=TheSpy;26544256]I love how people want him to release a dangerous leak. Many FPers think it will be all fine and dandy when a war begins.[/QUOTE] We play too much Fallout I guess
[QUOTE=Splendor;26544993][url]http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/drones[/url] A study called 'The Year of the Drone" published in February 2010 by New America Foundation found that in a total of 114 drone strikes in Pakistan between 2004 and early 2010 approximately between 834 and 1,216 individuals had been killed, about two thirds of whom were thought to be militants and one third were civilians. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_America_Foundation[/url] Here is the link to their wiki page, because you people have a tendency to dismiss them as bloodthirsty neo-cons because their name contains "America". They're a non-partisan thinktank.[/QUOTE] Be it 90% or 30% it's still unreasonably high for what we gain. These people usually aren't high level operatives or major terrorists, just insurgents. e: Taking the upper range, that means about 405 civs were killed. That's far too high.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;26545021]Be it 90% or 30% it's still unreasonably high for what we gain. These people usually aren't high level operatives or major terrorists, just insurgents. e: Taking the upper range, that means about 405 civs were killed. That's far too high.[/QUOTE] 405 civilians is a drop in the ocean. It's war, people are going to die, get used to it.
[QUOTE=Splendor;26545050]405 civilians is a drop in the ocean. It's war, people are going to die, get used to it.[/QUOTE] There needn't be a war in the first place.
[QUOTE=Splendor;26545050]405 civilians is a drop in the ocean. It's war, people are going to die, get used to it.[/QUOTE] What a shitty attitude. They're innocent civs who did nothing but be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If we bombed more conservatively and went for more important targets there would be less civ deaths. And 405 isn't a drop in an ocean when the ocean is 1,216
[QUOTE=Nerts;26545064]There needn't be a war in the first place.[/QUOTE] Ofcourse there needs to be a war. Afghanistan has fucking gigantic deposits of rare earths, which we can use to counter China's perfidious trade war tactics. [QUOTE=Xen Tricks;26545068]What a shitty attitude. They're innocent civs who did nothing but be in the wrong place at the wrong time. If we bombed more conservatively and went for more important targets there would be less civ deaths. And 405 isn't a drop in an ocean when the ocean is 1,216[/QUOTE] It's cost effective, these people don't have a voice anyways.
[QUOTE=Splendor;26545083]Ofcourse there needs to be a war. Afghanistan has fucking gigantic deposits of rare earths, which we can use to counter China's perfidious trade war tactics.[/QUOTE] Do I smell a troll? [QUOTE=Splendor;26545083] It's cost effective, these people don't have a voice anyways.[/QUOTE] Yes I do.
[QUOTE=Splendor;26545083]Ofcourse there needs to be a war. Afghanistan has fucking gigantic deposits of rare earths, which we can use to counter China's perfidious trade war tactics. It's cost effective, these people don't have a voice anyways.[/QUOTE] That was too obvious, even for you.
[QUOTE=Splendor;26545083]Ofcourse there needs to be a war. Afghanistan has fucking gigantic deposits of rare earths, which we can use to counter China's perfidious trade war tactics. It's cost effective, these people don't have a voice anyways.[/QUOTE] You're exactly the kind of person I want government transparency for.
We believe wars rage against terrorism-- all the wrong reasons. Insurgents and 'terrorists' thrive in south america, eastern europe, everywhere! We are quick to label terrorists when they're sitting on oil deposits. I mean.. WMD's The reasons for war are selfish and greedy. Not honourable and glorious as they mean to portray them. BE STRONG. JOIN THE MARINES. [editline]7th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Nerts;26545104]You're exactly the kind of person I want government transparency for.[/QUOTE] Hopefully that is the point that he's trying to prove.
[QUOTE=Xen Tricks;26545102]That was too obvious, even for you.[/QUOTE] No, really. Do you even read the news? Have you heard about that shitstorm with China hogging all the rare earth for their own sub-par production instead of selling it to Western high-tech firms? This is a golden ticket to stick it to them for the next hundred years or so. [QUOTE=MovingSalad;26545125] The reasons for war are selfish and greedy. Not honourable and glorious as they mean to portray them. BE STRONG. JOIN THE MARINES.[/quote] What are you, a child? Ofcourse it's selfish and greedy, but so is everyone else, so if you want to stay on top you gotta work those drones baby. LOOT AND PLUNDER! [QUOTE=Nerts;26545104]You're exactly the kind of person I want government transparency for.[/QUOTE] And you're exactly the kind of person I don't want government transparency for. Like I said, you people can't deal with it.
I for one welcome the release of this "doomsday" file. We have been getting to expansive on our globe anyways. We need to wittle the herd down a bit.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;26545166]I for one welcome the release of this "doomsday" file. We have been getting to expansive on our globe anyways. We need to wittle the herd down a bit.[/QUOTE] Wow, that's SO post-modern Nietzchean of you.
Well I suppose we can habituate the oceans.. No really. A war is going to happen in the next 100 years, or we can all say hello to the possibility of caucasians being minority;s in western countries.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;26545166]I for one welcome the release of this "doomsday" file. We have been getting to expansive on our globe anyways. We need to wittle the herd down a bit.[/QUOTE] Well then I'm assuming you won't mind being killed then? For the greater good and all
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[QUOTE=Zenreon117;26545166]I for one welcome the release of this "doomsday" file. We have been getting to expansive on our globe anyways. We need to wittle the herd down a bit.[/QUOTE] nuking usa would be a good start
[QUOTE=Profanwolf;26545233]Looking at these pointless arguments is funny, people thinking their arguments will change something.[/QUOTE] what a stupid thing to say. it's a forum, we're discussing stuff obviously it's pointless just like almost everything else on the internet.
[QUOTE=bazyboy;26545266]nuking usa would be a good start[/QUOTE] Yeah because [B]that[/B] will solve all the world's problems. Nuke some civilians.
[QUOTE=Zenreon117;26545166]I for one welcome the release of this "doomsday" file. We have been getting to expansive on our globe anyways. We need to wittle the herd down a bit.[/QUOTE] I really don't think that by "doomsday" it means it's going to start a war, it's "doomsday" in the sense that it's a last resort thing that wikileaks will do.
It's doomsday because it is designed to freak people out at the potential information that will be released. And you know what the worst thing is? You can only really get so upset about it. It isn't lies and slander, it's truthful. It's real.
[QUOTE=Nerts;26544802]Probably, Wikileaks doesn't want a war more than anyone else. Also, don't be a dick, seed it for a while.[/QUOTE] Hurr durr yea seed a nations confidential files that's not a bad idea :downs:
[QUOTE=Strongbad;26545393]Hurr durr yea seed a nations confidential files that's not a bad idea :downs:[/QUOTE] Basic internet etiquette, that and the file is useless at the moment, no way to tell what's in it.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;26545393]Hurr durr yea seed a nations confidential files that's not a bad idea :downs:[/QUOTE] proxy :downs:
[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26545374]It's doomsday because it is designed to freak people out at the potential information that will be released. And you know what the worst thing is? You can only really get so upset about it. It isn't lies and slander, it's truthful. It's real.[/QUOTE] And like the majority of these leaks, people will get fired up about it for one, maybe two weeks, and then it will be forgotten. Whether or not you like wikileaks, the general public is too lazy/ignorant/unmotivated to do anything about these 'grievances'.
natural selection
Hopefully he'll release them soon
[IMG]http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/theclog/files/2009/09/drstrange.jpg[/IMG] Doomsday file, you say?
[QUOTE=faze;26543594]So leaking homeland security information is okay?[/QUOTE] The whole Homeland Security thing is bullshit. We never needed a Department of Homeland Security until 9/11. Had it been proposed after WW2 it would have been called Fascist, and had it been proposed during the Cold War it would have been called Communist. The Nazis had their Fatherland, Communist Russia had its Motherland, and now we have our Homeland. We got along perfectly fine before it, but suddenly when everyone was scared, we began sacrificing rights.
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