Wikileaks Founder Threatens to Release 'Doomsday' File - Polidicks

KINGDOM OF FEAR. They've done a good job creating hysteria for you to fear the muslim extremists. Some of you people are getting so angry at the wikileaks supporters it's funny. Who gives a fuck? I highly doubt it will cause world war III, I really highly doubt it.

[QUOTE=Blanketspace;26545466]The whole Homeland Security thing is bullshit. We never needed a Department of Homeland Security until 9/11. Had it been proposed after WW2 it would have been called Fascist, and had it been proposed during the Cold War it would have been called Communist. The Nazis had their Fatherland, Communist Russia had its Motherland, and now we have out Homeland. We got along perfectly fine before it, but suddenly when everyone was scared, we began sacrificing rights.[/QUOTE] I agree, DHS is just stupid bloat seeing as the FBI is primarily dedicated to fighting terrorism now. [QUOTE=MovingSalad;26545487]KINGDOM OF FEAR. They've done a good job creating hysteria for you to fear the muslim extremists. Some of you people are getting so angry at the wikileaks supporters it's funny. Who gives a fuck? I highly doubt it will cause world war III, I really highly doubt it.[/QUOTE] Hysteria is for the little people like you. The rest of us have accepted why we're there in the first place and kinda dig it.

[QUOTE=Led Zeppelin;26545429]And like the majority of these leaks, people will get fired up about it for one, maybe two weeks, and then it will be forgotten. Whether or not you like wikileaks, the general public is too lazy/ignorant/unmotivated to do anything about these 'grievances'.[/QUOTE] these cables could stir up some diplomatic chaos for countries, even if the general public doesn't care about them

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26544849]Do you pay up the nose for taxes? In Canada, we have to pay some of the highest taxes in the world-- and I want to see what they're doing with this money, and what is going on behind the scenes that we pledge our daily support to keep it running.. It isn't really bullshit buddy, do you pay any bills? Probably not.[/QUOTE] Somebody's missing the point...

I've posted this in other Assange related threads: Can't wait to see all the bullshit appear about the "war on drugs." Come on people. One of the most natural drugs in the world, Dimethyltryptamine, is produced by your own brain. It is released in your sleep and causes you to dream. The research, as well as synthetic creation of this drug (via extraction methods, which can be done to all sorts of natural things, such as regular grass you see on people's lawns) is entirely illegal, moreso than the addictive narcotic Heroin. You tell me there isn't corruption out there when it comes to the restriction of research and recreational use of a drug that is already within all of you. I would really like to see some confidential "War on drug" info about these kinds of drugs. There's a reason you don't hear about them. And I want to know that reason. And neither do I think that reason will cause any wars. So I support wikileaks. Not undeniably, but I do support it.

Fear mongers. All of them. He's probably having tea with Glen Beck as we speak.

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26545762]I've posted this in other Assange related threads: Can't wait to see all the bullshit appear about the "war on drugs." Come on people. One of the most natural drugs in the world, Dimethyltryptamine, is produced by your own brain. It is released in your sleep and causes you to dream. The research, as well as synthetic creation of this drug (via extraction methods, which can be done to all sorts of natural things, such as regular grass you see on people's lawns) is entirely illegal, moreso than the addictive narcotic Heroin. You tell me there isn't corruption out there when it comes to the restriction of research and recreational use of a drug that is already within all of you. I would really like to see some confidential "War on drug" info about these kinds of drugs. There's a reason you don't hear about them. And I want to know that reason. And neither do I think that reason will cause any wars. So I support wikileaks. Not undeniably, but I do support it.[/QUOTE] What would be the point of having a synthesized version of it anyway?

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26545799]What would be the point of having a synthesized version of it anyway?[/QUOTE] Smoking/ingesting it and having an experience so unbelievably out of this world that it is not fully explainable through words. Weird thing? People all over the world have similar visions sometimes.. without knowledge of what it would be like. Lots of people have seen/heard/experienced similar things through this drug, very strange. There are many points to it. People look outside of the box when they take this, and it can lead to all kinds of enlightening thoughts-- a quick shock to the senses to let you know that you're a speck of dust in the universe. [editline]7th December 2010[/editline] Honestly though, it's affect on the human mind is unlike any other drug, and it affects us daily. How the fuck is that illegal.

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26545820] [b]Honestly though, it's affect on the human mind is unlike any other drug[/b], and it affects us daily. How the fuck is that illegal.[/QUOTE] I think you may have answered your own question there.

Not really. Just because its different than everything else shouldn't make it more illegal than a fucked up drug like heroin.By the way, you can't overdose or die from this drug at all, and its HARDLY addictive. Are people addicted to sleeping? Is it a problem like other drug addictions?

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26545864] By the way, you can't overdose or die from this drug at all, and its HARDLY addictive.[/quote] And how do we know that when all forms of research and the like are banned? [quote]If you did too much of it you'd just get kind of freaked out by it and stop doing it.[/QUOTE] Ever heard of people who od'd on hallucinogens and promptly got themselves killed because of what they saw? What makes you so sure it won't happen with this?

Uhh because a high amount of the drug makes you forget half of it. Dude, you don't understand. You have a LOT of this drug pumping through you every 24 hours. What don't you get about that. Also, you can't OD on it. The more you ingest of the drug, the harder it is to remember waht it is that you're seeing. It's like having a really fucked up dream and waking up and not remembering it, only knowing it was fucked up. It is very similar. What makes me so sure it won't happen with this? Because the whole world's population has been experiencing the effect of this drug daily, but they just don't get a vivid portrait of what it is that goes on inside their brain while sleeping. banning this drug is like banning research into the way the human mind works when the lights are out, so to speak. [editline]7th December 2010[/editline] And yes, some people should not be exposed to hallucinogens. Just like some people shouldn't be exposed to a lot of drugs. But yet, it's more illegal than any other. [editline]7th December 2010[/editline] And of course you hear about the guy on acid who jumped through a window, But do you hear about the people on acid that have amazing revelations? Or the people that have terrible memories that haunt them, and all of the sudden they're exposed to Mescaline and the problem no longer persists. Do you hear about positive effects of DMT on the brain? Well, for one, we seem to go CRAZY when we don't get enough sleep. When we don't get enough REM sleep (which is when DMT dimethyltryptamine is released into the brain) we go fucking bonkers, get frustrated, tired, lethargic.. Bill Hicks: "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Heres Tom with the Weather."

If research is banned on it your info on it probably isn't too accurate, but research into it seems pretty useful for understanding how the mind works. The ban on it seems dumb to the same level as the one on weed.

[QUOTE=Nerts;26545966]If research is banned on it your info on it probably isn't too accurate, but research into it seems pretty useful for understanding how the mind works. The ban on it seems dumb to the same level as the one on weed.[/QUOTE] By research, I'm saying they can't test it on people. Empirical research is impossible. The research so far, from the sources I have (various websites, books, shit like that.. which im not about to source because there's a lot., just do a google search on DMT) [editline]7th December 2010[/editline] The fact still stands is that the very same drug that is entirely illegal to produce, consume or make tests on, is coursing through your skull while you're sleeping.

[QUOTE=bazyboy;26545266]nuking usa would be a good start[/QUOTE] maybe if you found something to do with your life besides trolling on an internet forum, that would be a good start as well

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26545934]Uhh because a high amount of the drug makes you forget half of it. Dude, you don't understand. You have a LOT of this drug pumping through you every 24 hours. What don't you get about that. Also, you can't OD on it. The more you ingest of the drug, the harder it is to remember waht it is that you're seeing.[/quote] If we would get it 24/7 (which contradicts your earlier statement), we would be permanently dreaming, both asleep and awake. And again, we have no idea if you can't actually OD on it, we don't have enough information on it. Assuming you can take infinite amounts of it is just wrong. [quote]What makes me so sure it won't happen with this? Because the whole world's population has been experiencing the effect of this drug daily, but they just don't get a vivid portrait of what it is that goes on inside their brain while sleeping. banning this drug is like banning research into the way the human mind works when the lights are out, so to speak.[/quote] Exactly, we're experiencing it already. Why need a synthetic version? Besides that, there's already loads of research gone into dreaming, what else could we hope to find out by creating our own version of said drug?

Man, a "doomsday file"? Sounds like Julian has a trump card up his sleeve. Wonder what it contains, though?

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26545799]What would be the point of having a synthesized version of it anyway?[/QUOTE] DMT is incredible, you goddamn tool.

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26545934] Do you hear about positive effects of DMT on the brain? Well, for one, we seem to go CRAZY when we don't get enough sleep. When we don't get enough REM sleep (which is when DMT dimethyltryptamine is released into the brain) we go fucking bonkers, get frustrated, tired, lethargic.. [/QUOTE] Now I just get the feeling you're making shit up to justify your point. We don't sleep because we need DMT, we sleep because certain parts of the body and certain processes need to rest from time to time. Long periods of sleep cause mental instability, such as paranoia or anger issues.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26546020]If we would get it 24/7 (which contradicts your earlier statement), we would be permanently dreaming, both asleep and awake. [/QUOTE] I'm not trying to contradict myself. Your mind produces this in REM, it is not going through your brain when you are awake. No. If I appeared to have said that than it was a mistake. "Exactly, we're experiencing it already. Why need a synthetic version?" -Pure ignorance spawned by Sir Whoopsalot Because it is easier to take small minute doses of it and experience what it is that goes inside your brain without forgetting half of what you're dreaming. Nobody rememebrs every single detail of what goes on in their brain while sleeping. You don't know anything about DMT, and have proven to me that your only knowledge of it is from my hastily typed responses to your skeptic questioning about something you clearly haven't looked in to. For fucks sake, why dont' you youtube some information about it rather than challenge each and every string of text I send out to you to defend my most important statement, which is: That DMT is produced by every single person on earth, and affects your consciousness on a daily basis. (as in, whenever you're in REM sleep.) [editline]7th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26546060]Now I just get the feeling you're making shit up to justify your point. We don't sleep because we need DMT, we sleep because certain parts of the body and certain processes need to rest from time to time.[/QUOTE] So why is it that our brain produces DMT specifically while in REM sleep? Certain Processes need to rest? The reason why we have these strange experiences when we're dreaming is because of DMT.

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26546001]By research, I'm saying they can't test it on people.[/QUOTE] Bit of a difference between "banned" and "cannot test on people".

Who are you to say that this drug should be as illegal as it is? By the way, DMT can be extracted from hundreds of different parts of organic matter. (Grass and shit like that.) That, and it's already inside of you. People don't even know HOW it is released into the brain, some believe it is from the "third eye."

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26546069]I'm not trying to contradict myself. Your mind produces this in REM, it is not going through your brain when you are awake. No. If I appeared to have said that than it was a mistake.[/quote] You said we experienced it 24/7, which lead me to conclude you said we always notice its effects. But okay, that sounds good. [quote]Exactly, we're experiencing it already. Why need a synthetic version? Because it is easier to take small minute doses of it and experience what it is that goes inside your brain without forgetting half of what you're dreaming. Nobody rememebrs every single detail of what goes on in their brain while sleeping.[/quote] What would be the point of having to remember every single detail of your dreams? What guarantee do we have that taking a synth version will let us remember? [quote]You don't know anything about DMT, and have proven to me that your only knowledge of it is from my hastily typed responses to your skeptic questioning about something you clearly haven't looked in to. For fucks sake, why dont' you youtube some information about it rather than challenge each and every string of text I send out to you to defend my most important statement, which is: That DMT is produced by every single person on earth, and affects your consciousness on a daily basis. (as in, whenever you're in REM sleep.)[/QUOTE] What's there to get? It's made in your sleep and makes you dream. And what statement is there to defend? That's a fact. [QUOTE=MovingSalad;26546110]Who are you to say that this drug should be as illegal as it is? By the way, DMT can be extracted from hundreds of different parts of organic matter. (Grass and shit like that.) [/QUOTE] There's DMT in grass? [QUOTE=MovingSalad;26546069] So why is it that our brain produces DMT specifically while in REM sleep? Certain Processes need to rest? The reason why we have these strange experiences when we're dreaming is because of DMT.[/QUOTE] Fuck if I know. That's why we can't make statements on it. We simply don't know.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;26546122] What would be the point of having to remember every single detail of your dreams? What guarantee do we have that taking a synth version will let us remember? [/quote] The fact that people can take DMT and tell you about it vividly? What, are they lieing that they saw mechanical jungian elves and a man with folded legs, made of energy telling him that everything in the universe was connected. That's a guarentee for me. The more you take of it, the less you remember. There's a threshold where people will simply not be able to tell you what it is that they saw, but they knew it was extremely powerful. People experience "the light at the end of the tunnel" that near death experiences mirror. And why is that? Because it is believed that the brain releases DMT when you're about to die? Coincidence? [editline]7th December 2010[/editline] Anyways I've got some shit I need to do, ill be back in a couple hours. Might make a thread about this.

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26546154]The fact that people can take DMT and tell you about it vividly? What, are they lieing that they saw mechanical jungian elves and a man with folded legs, made of energy telling him that everything in the universe was connected.[/quote] No way to tell, right? Besides, doesn't hurt anyone. [quote]That's a guarentee for me. The more you take of it, the less you remember. There's a threshold where people will simply not be able to tell you what it is that they saw, but they knew it was extremely powerful. People experience "the light at the end of the tunnel" that near death experiences mirror. And why is that? Because it is believed that the brain releases DMT when you're about to die? Coincidence?[/quote] Hell if I know. Seeing as we don't have any evidence regarding release of DMT at death, we can't say what it is.

i don't wanna die yet, i wanna go out with the girl i'm fooling around with first :saddowns:

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_death_experience[/url] [url]http://scienceforums.com/topic/7940-dmt-and-death/[/url] [url]http://mysticbanana.com/scientifically-does-the-surge-of-dmt-released-upon-death-provide-real-proof-of-the-likelihood-of-an-afterlife.html[/url] No I totally made it up. Google search. t is already scientifically known that when you dream, and moreso when a person is about to die, there is a surge of DMT. People who have used DMT recreationally and for certain spiritual ceremonies have ALL spoken of the same effects – being propelled into an egoless existence in an otherwordly dimension where the “self” is merged with energy and ego is stripped, and grand visions are experienced, many of them being indescribable by those who went through it. All have also testified that time did not exist under the influence of DMT. Which is, if you hit the snooze button and fall back asleep for ten minutes, it can seem like you were asleep for hours.

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26546154] Anyways I've got some shit I need to do, ill be back in a couple hours. Might make a thread about this.[/QUOTE] Why don't you save your transcendental new-age hogwash for people who think [I]What the !@#$ Do We Know?[/I] was a good movie.

Bluffing

[QUOTE=MovingSalad;26546216][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_death_experience[/url] [url]http://scienceforums.com/topic/7940-dmt-and-death/[/url] [url]http://mysticbanana.com/scientifically-does-the-surge-of-dmt-released-upon-death-provide-real-proof-of-the-likelihood-of-an-afterlife.html[/url] No I totally made it up. Google search. t is already scientifically known that when you dream, and moreso when a person is about to die, there is a surge of DMT. People who have used DMT recreationally and for certain spiritual ceremonies have ALL spoken of the same effects – being propelled into an egoless existence in an otherwordly dimension where the “self” is merged with energy and ego is stripped, and grand visions are experienced, many of them being indescribable by those who went through it. All have also testified that time did not exist under the influence of DMT. Which is, if you hit the snooze button and fall back asleep for ten minutes, it can seem like you were asleep for hours.[/QUOTE] Holy jesus, that just made my head hurt. Interesting nonetheless. You said something about not knowing which part of the brain releases DMT? Scienceforums link mentions the pineal gland. Still, people have been known to have dreams that affect them badly, even though we all have it. Experiments with DMT could be either unreliable or dangerous.