Man charged in Birmingham detective's beating; outrage follows support of attack on social media

[elfbarf]

[QUOTE=hexpunK;48427163]And how do you apply "colour blindness" on an individual level? You need to convince everyone to be colour blind after all (a society wide change!), and convincing individuals to stop being racist fucks isn't going to be easy when certain races are still considerably worse off, and when people are fucking idiots. [B]People still assume black people in the States are more likely to be criminals, hence the massive jail and prison population in comparison to the population.[/B] How would being colour blind solve the currently ongoing problem? How would you convince someone to ignore race if they already have the preconceived notion that "black people wanna steal my shit more"?

Also don't take the "right wing think tank" part of that as a personal attack against you. It's an attack on the "omg ur racists for callin me racists" kind of shit arguments that have been appearing a fucking ton recently. Too many people are using it for it to be remotely a "original idea" and I'm just hella interested in finding out where the fuck it started.[/QUOTE]

Are you implying the black people simply don't commit the crimes they do, and that other races would be equally jailed if we simply policed better? As it is, black people do commit a proportionally high amount of crime, and fixing policing will only do so much to curb that. Sure, you'll have less arrests for things like drug possession, but you can't be suggesting that police are faking the countless acts of violent crime committed by black people (generally against other black people).

People aren't going to stop assuming that black people are more likely to be criminals until they are. It's going to take time and a hell of a lot of change within not only the police force but in the communities where the crime occurs.

[hexpunK]

[QUOTE=elfbarf;48427239]Are you implying the black people simply don't commit the crimes they do, and that other races would be equally jailed if we simply policed better? As it is, black people do commit a proportionally high amount of crime, and fixing policing will only do so much to curb that. Sure, you'll have less arrests for things like drug possession, but you can't be suggesting that police are faking the countless acts of violent crime committed by black people (generally against other black people).

People aren't going to stop assuming that black people are more likely to be criminals until they are. It's going to take time and a hell of a lot of change within not only the police force but in the communities where the crime occurs.[/QUOTE]

I'm not implying anything of the sort. I'm sure a good number of those arrested have committed the crimes they were arrested for. But would they have been sentenced the same as someone of another race? Would the entire thing have been brushed over (as pointed out earlier by Isak, it's pretty easy to get away with minor drugs offences if you're white, if you're black? better get ready for some kind of punishment)? (in the case of Ferguson) Why are there so many black people brought in with just "resisting arrest" as a charge is an interesting question? Surely there'd be a charge they were resisting you should also be jotting down to make the whole thing make sense?

Then you need to look in to the causes of the higher criminality rate. What about the circumstances of one race is causing them to be incarcerated more (we're pretty sure we know why, poverty)? What can we do to alleviate those circumstances?

However we can't do anything like that easily if we take a colour blind approach to the world as suddenly you're looking at nothing but individuals.

[Sgt. Napalm]

[QUOTE=Complifused;48424941]Those facebook/twitter posts in OP are absolutely disgusting.

Couldn't be more true[/QUOTE]

Well... Of course. If a police officer brutally beat a nonviolent man with unreasonable force with multiple blows to the head and then bragged about it on social media the public would get angry. They would be 100% right to be angry.

What a stupid thing to point out.

[shaotek]

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;48434331]Well... Of course. If a police officer brutally beat a nonviolent man with unreasonable force with multiple blows to the head and then bragged about it on social media the public would get angry. They would be 100% right to be angry.

What a stupid thing to point out.[/QUOTE]

No one gave a shit when those cops beat that homeless mentally handicapped white kid to death a few years ago.

[gudman]

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;48434331]Well... Of course. If a police officer brutally beat a nonviolent man with unreasonable force with multiple blows to the head and then bragged about it on social media the public would get angry. They would be 100% right to be angry.

What a stupid thing to point out.[/QUOTE]

I think that phrase rather meant that if the policeman was able to defend himself and incapacitated the assailant. Not like attacked someone for no reason.