[QUOTE=TropicalV2;32323898]honestly I can't imagine why so many people agree with you. medical breakthroughs don't just happen in the scientific community and suddenly they are generally accepted treatments for all patients. medical treatments undergo decades of development before they're considered safe for everyone, the only difference now is that the media is able to report the small strives in development, which leads to people like you saying "OH WE'LL NEVER SEE THIS AGAIN"
the hpv vaccine was developed by researchers at georgetown in the 1980s, it was only approved by the fda in 2006
in 1922, insulin from animals was shown to help diabetes patients. thirty years later, researchers were able to create a synthetic insulin that matched human insulin. it took another thirty years of testing and research to finally make synthetic insulin available for the general populace.
in 1981, hiv/aids cases flared up in newyork and cali, and a lot of people died. it took researchers six years to develop the earliest treatment for hiv/aids, and all it did was delay the progression of the disease.
science takes time people, please try to understand that. just because you aren't able to stand in the laboratories and watch the development first hand doesn't mean all of the work is somehow going to be dissolved by some giant evil pharmaceutical corporation.[/QUOTE]
I rated you winner, but I just want to point out that pharmaceutical corporations are definitely still evil and would like stuff to disappear if it means they might lose money. They don't care about people's health.
We won't hear about this ever again, will we...
[QUOTE=Hmn30;32325662]We won't hear about this ever again, will we...[/QUOTE]
Like most things you so-called "don't hear about again", it will be tested, implimented, further developed the medicine will be scientifically evolved, probably coming with a few name changes. Trust me, it [I]will[/I] be used if it works as effectively as they claim, after years of testing and side effects research.
Or so says my dads buddy, the bigshot cancer researcher.
can you imagine how the two guys who had their cancer cured feel right now? it must be incredible
Wow I knew this would fucking happen
From the journal article.
[quote=Chimeric Antigen Receptor–Modified T Cells in Chronic Lymphoid Leukemia]Hypogammaglobulinemia was an expected chronic toxic effect.[/quote]
[quote= Google]Hypogammaglobulinemia is a type of immune disorder characterized by a reduction in all types of gamma globulins.
Someone with hypogammaglobulinemia, therefore, is highly susceptible to bacterial infections, and to a lesser extent, viral infections. Symptoms such as chronic bacterial or viral infection such as colds, flu, tonsillitis, and sinusitis are common. Chronic diarrhea, inflammatory bowel disease, weight loss, and fatigue may also result.[/quote]
I don't know if it goes away once the treatment is over though.
Someone at my school died a few weeks ago to cancer
I am Legend?
I wonder who thought of this and who was the first to test it.
"Hey Jim? Oh, you've got cancer? ...Well, I've been meaning to inject this modified HIV into someone..."
Never expected HIV to be a cure for cancer, that's fucking incredible.
I read it as, "Modified FEV cures cancer".
While it sure as fuck beats having cancer, I don't think I'd like this approach either.
[quote]5. Over the next few weeks the patient develops a temperature, chills, shakes, low blood pressure, and other flu-like symptoms. The symptoms are caused by chemicals called cytokines produced by the T-cells.
The flu-like symptoms also mean the cancer is on the run. After the ordeal, doctors estimated that two pounds of cancer cells had died off in one patient, William Ludwig.[/quote]
So basically you kill the cancer at the cost of feeling sick for, what I assume, to be as long as the modified T-cells are in your body.
And the article says nothing about removing the T-cells.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;32330635]While it sure as fuck beats having cancer, I don't think I'd like this approach either.
So basically you kill the cancer at the cost of feeling sick for, what I assume, to be as long as the modified T-cells are in your body.
And the article says nothing about removing the T-cells.[/QUOTE]
but you don't have cancer anymore
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so who cares
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;32321938]I just had a thought. Has anyone with AIDS previously also contracted cancer, or does AIDS naturally attack cancer and they just made this variant of it to specifically target cancer?[/QUOTE]
AIDS infects T-cells and weakens the immune response by hijacking it's genome to replicate. In this study, this ability was exploited to insert a gene that allowed the T-cells to target specific cancer cells. AIDS does not target cancer cells.
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[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;32330635]While it sure as fuck beats having cancer, I don't think I'd like this approach either.
So basically you kill the cancer at the cost of feeling sick for, what I assume, to be as long as the modified T-cells are in your body.
And the article says nothing about removing the T-cells.[/QUOTE]
The modified T-cells are kept in to prevent cancer remission. Those symptoms are because of T-cells fighting off things like viruses (or in this case, cancer cells). Once the cancer cells are all gone, the flu-like symptoms should stop.
[img]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/t_cells.png[/img]
'We're not sure how to wipe out the chimeral T-cells after they've destroyed the cancer. Though I do have this vial of smallpox ...'
[QUOTE=Ven Kaeo;32324177]Read the article. A shirt burst if chemo removes the tcells[/QUOTE]
Chemo removes the unmodified t-cells so that they don't attack the modified t-cells. The modified t-cells are left in and even if you removed them, the virus would still be present in the blood to attack new t-cells.
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[QUOTE='Poesidan [GAG];32323276']What the hell is with all the "OH WE'RE CLOSE TO CURING CANCER BY DOING X" threads these days? That weird bio-engineered microscopic spider thing and now this?[/QUOTE]
It's because scientific advancement seems to happen exponentially.
It's interesting how the virus aids in this cancer treatment.
Thread title: "Cancer cured by modified HIV"
Wow, that's sounds grea-
Article title: "HIV Used to Fight Cancer"
Well, that's not a cure but it fights, so-
Article contents: "All three suffered from chronic lymphocytic leukemia"
Oh, so it's just lymphocytic leukemia, which is a cancer, I guess-
Neato?
"eh, it's just [I]chronic[/I] cancer, no big deal"
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32323210]So modified HIV cures cancer. Does it still give you AIDS?[/QUOTE]
Supposedly not, as the modified T-cells are specifically tuned to attack leukemia, and nothing else.
They also persist, apparently, to protect from it, in the case you were not cured completely the first time.
uh thought retroviruses being used to treat cancer was around since 92
[QUOTE=justastranger;32331115]Supposedly not, as the modified T-cells are specifically tuned to attack leukemia, and nothing else.
They also persist, apparently, to protect from it, in the case you were not cured completely the first time.[/QUOTE]
Isn't your immuno system still compromised though?
Side Effect: Causes AIDS
So in theory, does this mean you can cure someone's cancer by having sex with them?
[QUOTE=Jookia;32330960]Oh, so it's just lymphocytic leukemia, which is a cancer, I guess-
Neato?[/QUOTE]
[I]Just[/I] lymphocytic leukemia?
Seriously?
Honestly though how would you describe this as a doctor to your patient without them freaking the hell out
[QUOTE=Hattiwatti;32321290]And soon this will be forgotten and never seen again.[/QUOTE]
HIV is used all of the fucking time in the development of experimental treatments. It's been used to investigate methods of treating or hopefully even curing things like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's because it's an incredibly invasive bastard and has the ability to do cool stuff like penetrate the blood brain barrier.
[QUOTE=pal670;32321298]So 2 wrongs, make a right?[/QUOTE]
UGHHH YOU BEATEN ME BY 17 HOURS! :argh:
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