• Disney depiction of obese Polynesian god in film Moana sparks anger
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[QUOTE=niiiiiiiiok;50636446]These people need to get a hobby that is not bitching for hours Oh! How about they all get together and knit, very calming if I do say so myself.[/QUOTE] Or create their own ______ if they don't like what other people are creating.
[QUOTE=unrezt;50636461]Or create their own ______ if they don't like what other people are creating.[/QUOTE] They do sometimes And then their lil' project falls on its face and dies without funding. A death that could be considered mercy to the intended audiences of the project
[QUOTE=archangel125;50636238]That guy's my new favourite person.[/QUOTE] He's so great [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQU6o4ooL5E[/media] But yeah, he looks stocky. I don't understand why people are bitching like it's a bad thing.
[QUOTE=Jourde;50635945]That said i'm confused, most likely wrong, Im probably abit anal too.[/QUOTE] Probably because [URL="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Pacific_Culture_Areas.jpg"]Polynesia[/URL] stretches a wide area.
This reminds me of those people that complained about The Princess and the Frog all those years ago.
[QUOTE=Jarokwa;50636434]anything sparks anger nowadays, people are never happy and will always be whiny little shits just for the sake of whining.[/QUOTE] i blame the internet
[QUOTE=NoobSauce;50636493]He's so great [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQU6o4ooL5E[/media] [/QUOTE] This is the kind of strong i want to see more.
What does anyone expect? You can't win with these people. Ever.
[QUOTE=Jourde;50635945]I'm confused, why do they keep saying Tongan/Hawian when it's clearly Maori influence, they don't even have evidence the Maori ever came from Hawaii. That said i'm confused, most likely wrong, Im probably abit anal too.[/QUOTE] it's apparently a general mishmash of polynesian/pacific island culture. iirc the main female character is being voiced by a maori woman. maui is a god in more than maori culture as well, though it seems fairly based on the maori god.
Just to be clear, I do think that people are overreacting assuming that people are actually furious and not just "Hey this isn't cool, bro." which seems like the general consensus on anyone "upset" about this. I also think that people who are bitching unironically about "OH MY FUCKING GOD SJW PC CULTURE" are just as worse as the people overreacting about this fatass. That depiction of Mali is pretty terrible. He does look like the result of a pig hippo human orgy and it's understandable that people are upset considering that he's normally depicted as a man with a pretty decent god body + the head of a normal human being, and not some genetic clusterfuck. [t]http://i.imgur.com/wUmzMS3.jpg[/t] ^ Mali as normally depicted. Really, disney's depiction of Mali is on par with this: [img]https://beersnobsquad.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/fat-jesus.jpg[/img] The thought of a fat jesus is hilarious but you'd have to be retarded to think that "oh no one would be offended by a fat jesus"
living in hawai'i, some of my friends that are polynesians have a 50/50 opinion of it other isn't happy cause like the post above said, it's really fucking weird having your mythological figure's body shape totally change and wonder how the fuck they even came up with it. other is fine with it because they believe it reflects how the average polynesian looks nowadays; bunch of hulk-figure badasses that can wreck people's shit yet look so jolly & happy. they're all gonna see the movie anyway though
He needs all that surface area for his sweet tattoos, duh.
he just looks like an exaggerated, cartoony stocky/built guy. i legitimately dont see the problem
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;50636789]-snip-[/QUOTE] you're right, [t]http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norsethor.jpg[/t] what thor should look like [t]http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/145982/thor-the-dark-world.jpg?w=600[/t] what we got I'm offended.
He's based off Dwyane Johnson who very expressive body movements, the bodis need to be close [IMG]https://brobible.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/fat-rock-5.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=kyle877;50637034]you're right, [t]http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/norsethor.jpg[/t] what thor should look like [t]http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/145982/thor-the-dark-world.jpg?w=600[/t] what we got I'm offended.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.medievalists.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/708px-M%C3%A5rten_Eskil_Winge_-_Tors_Fight_with_the_Giants_-_Google_Art_Project-e1425139710913.jpg[/IMG] 2 blonde hunks with a similar manly physique is equivalent to this situation lol? r u ok
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50637162][IMG]http://www.medievalists.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/708px-M%C3%A5rten_Eskil_Winge_-_Tors_Fight_with_the_Giants_-_Google_Art_Project-e1425139710913.jpg[/IMG] 2 blonde hunks with a similar manly physique is equivalent to this situation lol? r u ok[/QUOTE] Red headed to blonde, but whatever. Also what is artistic license?
[QUOTE=kyle877;50637165]Red headed to blonde, but whatever. Also what is artistic license?[/QUOTE] there are other depictions from early artists & painters that depicts him blonde. also, what's wrong with people being offended and saying they're offended by what they perceive to be a misrepresentation of their real culture & mythology that the film says its based off of? i'm pretty sure if there was film based on snow white or cinderella and they made the ladies really large, there'd be an outcry or at the very least people saying 'what the fuck?' would artistic license serve as enough of a justification to you then? i don't really see it as offensive, but i won't bash people that are part of the culture for being offended or saying they shouldn't be offended lol
I'm pretty offended at the idea that Jesus is a clean perfect white male with blonde hair and blue eyes also you know how buddha is depicted like this? [t]http://i.stack.imgur.com/m8QQK.jpg[/t] don't think a dude that fasts as much as he did would be this heavy but I don't see people bitching who knows maybe both are accurate but there are so many artists renditions of these people that it's hard to take complaints that seriously because we don't truthfully 100% know what paintings are accurately drawn and what are simply false. There's a huge number of real people who had themselves painted without / with certain features, imagine what it'd be like for religious or mythological people who may or may not exist. [editline]3rd July 2016[/editline] [URL="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/24/a7/8024a7be8bddb9f819bec068489ad8b7.jpg"]the truth is though, as said by Buddha himself[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;50635078]Ha, tell that to Blizzard, after releasing Overwatch... [img]http://i.imgur.com/5dKg33L.jpg[/img] "ZOMG Tracer's pose is sexist!!!1!1!1111" That's what they get for pandering to SJWs.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;ZmLkVtqjf1A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmLkVtqjf1A[/video]
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;50637206]there are other depictions from early artists & painters that depicts him blonde. also, what's wrong with people being offended and saying they're offended by what they perceive to be a misrepresentation of their real culture & mythology that the film says its based off of? i'm pretty sure if there was film based on snow white or cinderella and they made the ladies really large, there'd be an outcry or at the very least people saying 'what the fuck?' would artistic license serve as enough of a justification to you then? i don't really see it as offensive, but i won't bash people that are part of the culture for being offended or saying they shouldn't be offended lol[/QUOTE] 1. Poetic Eddas describe him as red headed. 2. People are allowed to be offended. I'm allowed to think it's silly. 3/4. Yes? Isn't that kind of the point of it? To be allowed to depict a character how they want? 5. Again, they're allowed to be offended. I still think it's silly and will take the piss out of it though.
[QUOTE=J!NX;50637360]I'm pretty offended at the idea that Jesus is a clean perfect white male with blonde hair and blue eyes also you know how buddha is depicted like this? [t]http://i.stack.imgur.com/m8QQK.jpg[/t] don't think a dude that fasts as much as he did would be this heavy but I don't see people bitching who knows maybe both are accurate but there are so many artists renditions of these people that it's hard to take complaints that seriously because we don't truthfully 100% know what paintings are accurately drawn and what are simply false. There's a huge number of real people who had themselves painted without / with certain features, imagine what it'd be like for religious or mythological people who may or may not exist. [editline]3rd July 2016[/editline] [URL="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/24/a7/8024a7be8bddb9f819bec068489ad8b7.jpg"]the truth is though, as said by Buddha himself[/URL][/QUOTE] the difference with buddha is that there are multiple buddhas that all have different forms because it's more of a Rank than an actual being, there's like 27 different buddhas and then there are the ones that are only worshiped in certain sects of buddhism due to their importance in the specific region that offshoot originates from [editline]3rd July 2016[/editline] also the real jesus was caramel
[QUOTE=kyle877;50637523]1. Poetic Eddas describe him as red headed. 2. People are allowed to be offended. I'm allowed to think it's silly. 3/4. Yes? Isn't that kind of the point of it? To be allowed to depict a character how they want? 5. Again, they're allowed to be offended. I still think it's silly and will take the piss out of it though.[/QUOTE] 1. also says his hair is fairer ( or brighter?) than gold 2. ok, im allowed to say ur silly too 3/4. but would you say people would be accepting of that and wouldn't be offended? 5. well as long you're saying they should be allowed to be offended then we can't argue further
[QUOTE=ThatCrazyGmanV2;50637536]the difference with buddha is that there are multiple buddhas that all have different forms because it's more of a Rank than an actual being, there's like 27 different buddhas and then there are the ones that are only worshiped in certain sects of buddhism due to their importance in the specific region that offshoot originates from [editline]3rd July 2016[/editline] also the real jesus was caramel[/QUOTE] I thought the "fat Buddha" was actually Budai?
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;50637859]I thought the "fat Buddha" was actually Budai?[/QUOTE] yes and no, Budai is the one of the ideas of what Maitreya (the future Buddha) will look like, mostly popular in china, but yeah people get him confused with one of the former buddhas that have existed [editline]3rd July 2016[/editline] so there's been 27 buddhas and now Maitreya will become the 28th whenever they arrive and most chinese buddhists think he'll look like that This is going by what I learned from Japanese and Indian Buddhists I'm friends with plus some stuff I learned temple touring in Japan so it might not be 100% accurate to the chinese beliefs
I think these stories are printed before anyone complains about the subject at hand, then they steam roll out into a big stink.
I think my favorite part about all this is the fact that these designs have existed for around a year and a half[i](probably longer)[/i], and I haven't even been following this and I still knew about them. The whingers don't give a shit until everything is out in the spot light. [editline]gonna imploddeee[/editline] It's like that shit with Dragon's Crown where the designs were around for like 3+ years, but only when the game came out were people bitching about the designs.
If anything they should be mad about his fucking face
[QUOTE=J!NX;50637360]I'm pretty offended at the idea that Jesus is a clean perfect white male with blonde hair and blue eyes also you know how buddha is depicted like this? [t]http://i.stack.imgur.com/m8QQK.jpg[/t] don't think a dude that fasts as much as he did would be this heavy but I don't see people bitching who knows maybe both are accurate but there are so many artists renditions of these people that it's hard to take complaints that seriously because we don't truthfully 100% know what paintings are accurately drawn and what are simply false. There's a huge number of real people who had themselves painted without / with certain features, imagine what it'd be like for religious or mythological people who may or may not exist. [editline]3rd July 2016[/editline] [URL="https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/80/24/a7/8024a7be8bddb9f819bec068489ad8b7.jpg"]the truth is though, as said by Buddha himself[/URL][/QUOTE] That's a buddai, not the Buddha.
[QUOTE=Alrækinn;50639383]I think my favorite part about all this is the fact that these designs have existed for around a year and a half[i](probably longer)[/i], and I haven't even been following this and I still knew about them. The whingers don't give a shit until everything is out in the spot light. [editline]gonna imploddeee[/editline] It's like that shit with Dragon's Crown where the designs were around for like 3+ years, but only when the game came out were people bitching about the designs.[/QUOTE] maybe because people didn't know about them??? the fuck is this post???
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