Hayao Miyazaki voices opposition to constitutional amendment push by LDP

[Amber902]

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;41583717]If you were being honest you'd admit they got nuked for a lot more than declaring war on someone.

That's why no one will allow them to build any kind of offensive military force. No one can trust them. Unlike the Germans, who totally owned up to what they did as a country and have done everything they can to make up for it, the Japanese continue to squirm out of directly addressing their past. So while most of the world is past WWII Germany, lots of people are still waiting on the Japanese to deal with their past.

The internment camps we put them in here in the US and the two Atomic bombs being dropped on them were war crimes, in my opinion. But that doesn't excuse the Japanese from apologizing to others, especially China. That's the bottomline, they did some evil stuff to the Chinese and they need to do whatever it takes to make that right.

China has far too much economic and political power now for the Japanese to think they even have a chance in hell to counter the Chinese with military force. The Chinese can slowly strangle them economically over the coming decades and never fire a shot. It's in Japan's long term best interest to swallow their pride and square things with China ASAP.[/QUOTE]

Please tell me all these things you know about Japanese culture.

[editline]25th July 2013[/editline]

Specifically the part where no one owned up to war crimes.

[Deunan]

[QUOTE=Nikota;41570738]Can they even change it? I mean, how would they change it since the USA wrote it and etc.

I love Japan, but they kind of have no need to declare war and the only real thing I'd support is their ability to maintain a military, rather than just the most armed swat force on the planet.[/QUOTE]

Spoilers - The USA wrote it and essentially forced the japs to pass it, but it was still more or less passed by the jap assembly even though it was an imposed consitution more or less the sovereignity of the japs is kept.

Imho the biggest part I don't like is how they plan to change the measures needed to change the constitution in the first place. A base law should always have qualified majority and not a simple majority as they want to propose.

Honestly though, this is pretty much just dicking around with China to inform them oh hey look our PDF is now a military again so fuck off from our islands.

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;41583717]If you were being honest you'd admit they got nuked for a lot more than declaring war on someone.

That's why no one will allow them to build any kind of offensive military force. No one can trust them. Unlike the Germans, who totally owned up to what they did as a country and have done everything they can to make up for it, the Japanese continue to squirm out of directly addressing their past. So while most of the world is past WWII Germany, lots of people are still waiting on the Japanese to deal with their past.

The internment camps we put them in here in the US and the two Atomic bombs being dropped on them were war crimes, in my opinion. But that doesn't excuse the Japanese from apologizing to others, especially China. That's the bottomline, they did some evil stuff to the Chinese and they need to do whatever it takes to make that right.

China has far too much economic and political power now for the Japanese to think they even have a chance in hell to counter the Chinese with military force. The Chinese can slowly strangle them economically over the coming decades and never fire a shot. It's in Japan's long term best interest to swallow their pride and square things with China ASAP.[/QUOTE]

To be honest, the amount of atrocities commited by the US in wartime is by now equal or by far exceeds those of imperial japan. North Korea and Vietnam being a good example.

[Amber902]

[QUOTE=wraithcat;41593623]Spoilers - The USA wrote it and essentially forced the japs to pass it, but it was still more or less passed by the jap assembly even though it was an imposed consitution more or less the sovereignity of the japs is kept.

Imho the biggest part I don't like is how they plan to change the measures needed to change the constitution in the first place. A base law should always have qualified majority and not a simple majority as they want to propose.

Honestly though, this is pretty much just dicking around with China to inform them oh hey look our PDF is now a military again so fuck off from our islands.

To be honest, the amount of atrocities commited by the US in wartime is by now equal or by far exceeds those of imperial japan. North Korea and Vietnam being a good example.[/QUOTE]

I'd say it was equal after the Korean War. Vietnam probably doubled it.

[scout1]

On this note the defense review that Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered says they need to increase their military forces, specifically their marine capacity and drones

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23433070[/url]

Looks like Abe got just what he wanted to hear.

[Megafan]

[QUOTE=scout1;41602454]On this note the defense review that Prime Minister Shinzo Abe ordered says they need to increase their military forces, specifically their marine capacity and drones

[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23433070[/URL]

Looks like Abe got just what he wanted to hear.[/QUOTE]

Updating aspects of their military has very little to do with Article 9. Marine vehicles and drones are, I believe, perfectly legal under the constitution, but of course it depends on how they are used. Of course, what percentage of the budget is used up in military spending is also a factor.