It's not that i fear them as in i'm afraid they are going to kill me. It's just something about them that is unpleasant and makes my skin crawl.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;38892524]You... you love spiders? Do you take some kind of medication?[/QUOTE]
Spiders are some tight shit, I love my spider bros they catch all the fucking flies and mosquitos in my room
[QUOTE=Don Knotts;38892895]Spider waifu.[/QUOTE]
I am so tempted to point out lolmonstergirls. But I'm going to stay my hand.
On topic: Evolution you creative sonnuva bitch.
[QUOTE=EmperorVagak;38893896]Unless the spider was about the same size as us.
It's a bloody good thing that there is no such spider. Unless terrorists decide to do some cruel genetic engineering beyond our comprehension.[/QUOTE]
If there was a spider the size of a human, it'd die because it wouldn't be able to breath. They breath via holes in their body, through which air travels to their organs.
If we are going to picture a spider's body to be as big as a human, it'd be understandable to have the organs to be of respective size, so it would be able to breath.
But mother of god why am I thinking of a human sized spider.
[QUOTE=Corey_Faure;38896562][IMG]http://speedcap.net/sharing/files/11/72/11721c960cfccadda44403bd9694d698.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
That looks kinda like the Blair Witch symbol.
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[QUOTE=Simski;38904826]Yeah... it just doesn't feel like something like this would be created by instinct... It doesn't look like a naturally occurred coincidence that caught on due to natural selection, it looks like it took enough intelligence to know that if you built a decoy to look like yourself then your enemies would go for that instead.[/QUOTE]
Even animals like dogs can't pass the mirror test (for significant self-awareness), so I really doubt a spider could tbh
Besides, even if these spiders did know what they looked like they would then have to understand how the whole decoy procedure works which takes quite a bit of complex thinking
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;38892794]I want a jumping spider as big as a puppy. Would make a neat pet.[/QUOTE]
Much as I like jumping spiders, that would be fucking terrifying and I would shit my pants if I ever saw such a thing.
[QUOTE=Karmah;38892545]That's pretty smart [B]for a spider[/B][/QUOTE]
Spiders aren't stupid in general...
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;38898051]This spider is pretty swag, but I sort of lost any rationality I had about spiders when [URL="http://www.spidatrap.com/content/images/big/tegenaria gigantea with hand.jpg"]one of these fuckers[/URL] fell out of a nook in my screen door and landed on my shoulder.
It had a diameter span equivalent to the size of my hand :suicide:[/QUOTE]
Oh god nope nope nope
Building a replica of yourself... from the corpses of your fallen enemies. Hardcore.
[QUOTE=Chinook249;38896492]Some are actually pretty cute!
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It's even smiling :) LOL[/QUOTE]
I always seemed to like the jumping spiders. They are curious, smart, and most people consider them spiderbros. Where was that jumping spider smiling with a top hat and monocle?
But that is impressive, funny to see some people being scared of what these new spiders can do.
Considering the fact that spiders exist for like 200 millions of years... I can't exactly come to say it's surprising. Still, it's very cool, I can't come up with any other animal that creates decoy replicas of itself. Not just that, but with this level of similarity?
I know all animals would have to know what they themselves look like, but it's so weird to see one acknowledge it's own image to the extent of replicating it. It just paints them as very conscious creatures.
Don't kill spiders
take them outside :)
[QUOTE=All0utWar;38916813]Oh god no. Everytime I see a spider I cautiously creep up behind it. I then slowly torture it until it dies.
I hate spiders.[/QUOTE]
Not only are spiders self aware, but they're also capable of holding vendettas, sometimes on behalf of their fallen comrades.
Sleep with one eye open.
Im not that keen on spiders, theres only a handful that dont creep me right out.
But this shows they are alot more clever than most people give them credit for. Ive heard some, like Jumping Spiders, are incredibly curious and more than willing to jump all over you to check you out.
Theyre really quite cool if you give them a chance. Its not like theyre harming anything just sitting around keeping bugs from you. Its just some do look down right scary.
I had a house spider climbing up my leg after checking out the thread(for a while) and tried to slowly pick him up off my leg going sooo slow! Then the bugger bights me! I still let him go outside though!
[QUOTE=RobbL;38907831]Even animals like dogs can't pass the mirror test (for significant self-awareness), so I really doubt a spider could tbh
Besides, even if these spiders did know what they looked like they would then have to understand how the whole decoy procedure works which takes quite a bit of complex thinking[/QUOTE]
Yeah I really wonder if the whole decoy thing was an intentional creation... it's what makes this so interesting. I might probably be jumping the gun by assuming they really do understand all of it though... but still, it just seems so odd that it would have been created by coincidence.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;38892524]You... you love spiders? Do you take some kind of medication?[/QUOTE]
Why not? They are master architects and adventurers, and accomplish amazing feats (considering their limitations) all of the time. They are an incredibly successful species with amazing benefits to humanity.
[QUOTE=FreakyMe;38919871]Why not? They are master architects and adventurers, and accomplish amazing feats (considering their limitations) all of the time. They are an incredibly successful species with amazing benefits to humanity.[/QUOTE]
I'm amazed and very interested in Spiders, which makes me sad that I have an insane phobia of them and panic whenever they are around... I once woke up my mom in the middle of the night because there was a bigass spider in the sink in the kitchen.
[QUOTE=Simski;38919880]I'm amazed and very interested in Spiders, which makes me sad that I have an insane phobia of them and panic whenever they are around... I once woke up my mom in the middle of the night because there was a bigass spider in the sink in the kitchen.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps take a class related to the subject, and inform yourself on them. The primary contributor to fear is a sense of unpredictability that comes with encountering a new and perceptibly threatening creature or situation. As you inform yourself, your subconscious 'fear response' loses it's ability somewhat to feed on your ignorance of what you are afraid of, which is the major portion of the 'panic loop' that makes people scream, throw things, and run from the room. When you know what the spider is and what it is capable of, you know exactly how to avoid any threats. With that knowledge comes a sense of procedure and calmness.
For me at a young age, I replaced the word spider in my mind with arachnid, and found that the difference in physiological response to the two words (when mentally uttered) was night and day. I thought of arachnids far differently than I did about spiders, because first of all when I thought 'arachnid' it then was followed by a want to know what kind of arachnid. Secondly, it simply sounds less scary. Perhaps you've noticed that when I began writing arachnid, your sense of sensory agitation (false perception of stimuli related to arachnids) somewhat subsided.
[QUOTE=Simski;38919858]but still, it just seems so odd that it would have been created by coincidence.[/QUOTE]
A lot of bizarre adaptations like mimicry, camouflage, display structures and behavioral adaptations, just like with all living creatures themselves, come from a lot of random niche/habitat-filtered genetic mutations, and this could be also the case: imagine the ancestor of this spider thousands of centuries ago, which developed this strange behaviour of making a fuzz of web in the middle of its web that helped it to survive against predators like birds; subsequent adaptations made it so spiders of this kind that made fuzzes of web that resembled actual spiders more instead of other shapes would have a higher survival rate, thus we have this species today. Sounds like a plausible explanation, but I wonder too if the spider's self-consciousness and intelligence (rather than its instinct) plays a role in this behaviour.
[QUOTE=Simski;38919858]Yeah I really wonder if the whole decoy thing was an intentional creation... it's what makes this so interesting. I might probably be jumping the gun by assuming they really do understand all of it though... but still, it just seems so odd that it would have been created by coincidence.[/QUOTE]
Well there's loads of insects that themselves look like other objects and creatures to fool predators/prey, and that came about through coincidence
[QUOTE=RobbL;38921286]Well there's loads of insects that themselves look like other objects and creatures to fool predators/prey, and that came about through coincidence[/QUOTE]
Yeah but that's because it happens over time, the creatures that happened to be born with the features that made them trick other animals survived more and therefor passed on the genes... However how a creature would be able to just coincidentally create an object that looks like itself and moving its net to make it appear like the decoy is moving around... it just doesn't feel like the same thing.
Im not fond of spiders, but they help keep the bugs away though.
[QUOTE=Simski;38921438]However how a creature would be able to just coincidentally create an object that looks like itself and moving its net to make it appear like the decoy is moving around... it just doesn't feel like the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Likewise loads of insects create complex structures too like termites. They don't built their mounds using intelligence, i'm sure they don't know about how ventilation and stuff works
Evolution does some crazy things
[QUOTE=squids_eye;38892551]Wow, I didn't think that animals like spiders were even aware of what they looked like.[/QUOTE]
they most likely are not.
I'm sorry, I sprayed carburetor cleaner on a Black Widow yesterday
It shriveled up
Smart man...
I mean the spider,not the guy who bugsprayed a black widow(should have used a pest animal,they like to eat spiders)
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