Jews 'could die out by next century', as intermarriage rates rise. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=matt000024;43836731]Except religion is not the same as race. It is an ideology. That is a very invalid comparison. What people are upset about are that the OP is being rated winner due to many Facepunchers hating Israel and making the assumption that all Jews are Israeli.[/QUOTE] i didn't rate the op winner because i want jewish culture to die out, i rated it winner because it's stupid to limit people's choices because you want to preserve your culture. as someone said already, free will > culture

[QUOTE=sgman91;43824203]The amount of winners on this OP shows how anti-semitism is alive and well on FP.[/QUOTE] Legitimate question, why is anti-semitism taboo? Judaism itself consists of bigoted views towards gentiles (such as the Talmud). No, I don't hate Jews, I do not want anything violent to happen to Jews either. I'm just saying it seems hypocritical jews can show disdain towards gentiles but gentiles can't show disdain towards jews. I am glad to hear Judaism is dying out though. Not because I'm an anti-semite specifically, but because I oppose [I]religion in general[/I]. To be honest though of all Religions Judaism is probably my favorite simply because it's historically been an inclusive one that doesn't force you to follow it.

My grandfather, a holocaust survivor, Was extremely fucking anti zionist because he saw them as doing nazi shit. To me it's because they've managed to make it so anti-zionist=anti-semitic

[QUOTE=Ramirez77;43837211]Legitimate question, why is anti-semitism taboo? Judaism itself consists of bigoted views towards gentiles (such as the Talmud).[/QUOTE] By that definition, if you are a Christian you must discriminate homosexuals.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;43837613]By that definition, if you are a Christian you must discriminate homosexuals.[/QUOTE] Why would you be a Christian if you didn't agree [B][U]100%[/U][/B] with the doctrine that claims itself to be entirely true? If it's not 100% true then it's simply not true. True and False is a binary system, there is no in-between. Christian Fundamentalists are more logical than most Christians because at least their lack of logic is [I]consistent[/I]. Most Christians are not [I]true[/I] Christians. So why they hang onto the label is beyond me. Must be peer pressure. The exact reason I'm an agnostic is the bible has so many inconsistencies and questionable passages.

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43837072]i didn't rate the op winner because i want jewish culture to die out, i rated it winner because it's stupid to limit people's choices because you want to preserve your culture. as someone said already, free will > culture[/QUOTE] I didn't say you personally did, but to everyone not rating it winner, that's the way it seems. [editline]8th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Ramirez77;43837642]Why would you be a Christian if you didn't agree [B][U]100%[/U][/B] with the doctrine that claims itself to be entirely true? If it's not 100% true then it's simply not true. True and False is a binary system, there is no in-between. Christian Fundamentalists are more logical than most Christians because at least their lack of logic is [I]consistent[/I]. Most Christians are not [I]true[/I] Christians. So why they hang onto the label is beyond me. Must be peer pressure. The exact reason I'm an agnostic is the bible has so many inconsistencies and questionable passages.[/QUOTE] You do realize Christians aren't one specific group. There are Catholics, Coptics, Russian Orthodox, Gnostics, Mormons, Baptists, Anglicans, Methodists- you know what, naming all of them would probably take days. Here: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations[/url] Really all of them have one thing in common, and that is that they believe in the teachings of Jesus. Most individuals have a different interpretation of his teachings. There aren't "fake Christians" out there.

RIP Hi-Rez Studios. You will be missed.

[QUOTE=Don Knotts;43839452]RIP Hi-Rez Studios. You will be missed.[/QUOTE] man are you drunk?

[QUOTE=matt000024;43838308] You do realize Christians aren't one specific group. There are Catholics, Coptics, Russian Orthodox, Gnostics, Mormons, Baptists, Anglicans, Methodists- you know what, naming all of them would probably take days. Here: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations[/url] Really all of them have one thing in common, and that is that they believe in the teachings of Jesus. Most individuals have a different interpretation of his teachings. There aren't "fake Christians" out there.[/QUOTE] I'm totally aware of what a denomination is. That doesn't change the fact the bible condemns homosexuality and that Jesus himself condemns it. If you don't agree with either of those, then why follow the religion? That's just one issue. I could go into slavery, sexual promiscuity, and many others that I'm sure most modern day "Christians" would find questionable.

Jesus doesn't mention gays anywhere, what are you talking about?

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;43824235]I think they're just mad at the slow genocide of the native Palestinian people[/QUOTE] So because a small minority of Jews are fucking up the Palestinians, that means the whole lot of them should just die out? This is basically what this is saying, which is hilarious considering how vehemently FP denies being anti-semitic. You people are literally winner-ing the thing Hitler tried to do decades ago. Of course, since Judaism is a religion, which FP also dislikes, this is killing two birds with one stone for all you anti-theist/anti-semites on here.

[QUOTE=slayer64;43842452]So because a small minority of Jews are fucking up the Palestinians, that means the whole lot of them should just die out? This is basically what this is saying, which is hilarious considering how vehemently FP denies being anti-semitic. You people are literally winner-ing the thing Hitler tried to do decades ago. Of course, since Judaism is a religion, which FP also dislikes, this is killing two birds with one stone for all you anti-theist/anti-semites on here.[/QUOTE] holy shit aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa it's totally not what hitler did at all it's a dynamic process in that more jewish dudes/ladies are going outside the ethnoreligious group, and since the group believes that if the mother isn't jewish, then the kids aren't it's only natural that the ethnoreligious group will start to fade, and become more of just a religion

[QUOTE=slayer64;43842452]So because a small minority of Jews are fucking up the Palestinians, that means the whole lot of them should just die out? This is basically what this is saying, which is hilarious considering how vehemently FP denies being anti-semitic. You people are literally winner-ing the thing Hitler tried to do decades ago. Of course, since Judaism is a religion, which FP also dislikes, this is killing two birds with one stone for all you anti-theist/anti-semites on here.[/QUOTE] Nice, lumping atheists together with anti-Semites. Talk about two birds with one stone.

[QUOTE=slayer64;43842452]So because a small minority of Jews are fucking up the Palestinians, that means the whole lot of them should just die out? This is basically what this is saying, which is hilarious considering how vehemently FP denies being anti-semitic. You people are literally winner-ing the thing Hitler tried to do decades ago. Of course, since Judaism is a religion, which FP also dislikes, this is killing two birds with one stone for all you anti-theist/anti-semites on here.[/QUOTE] Were not anti semetic, were anti zionist. There's a difference.

[QUOTE=Ramirez77;43841639]I'm totally aware of what a denomination is. That doesn't change the fact the bible condemns homosexuality and that Jesus himself condemns it. [/QUOTE] The Old Testament does, but I don't remember it being in the New Testament. And a comparison... You're from America (assuming flagdog is right) and would consider yourself an American, right? Does that mean you agree with every law the US has made?

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;43843097]Were not anti semetic, were anti zionist. There's a difference.[/QUOTE] Saying you wish Jews, as a group, would die out, is anti-semitic [editline]9th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Explosions;43843070]Nice, lumping atheists together with anti-Semites. Talk about two birds with one stone.[/QUOTE] I'm not lumping anyone together, I'm simply stating that FP's general dislike of religion may play a part in its astounding antisemitism.

[QUOTE=slayer64;43843326]Saying you wish Jews, as a group, would die out, is anti-semitic[/QUOTE] who the fuck said that

[QUOTE=matt000024;43843238]The Old Testament does, but I don't remember it being in the New Testament. And a comparison... You're from America (assuming flagdog is right) and would consider yourself an American, right? Does that mean you agree with every law the US has made?[/QUOTE] The USA isn't a belief system, it's a nation. There probably isn't a single nation whose views I agree 100% with, but I have no choice because there's nowhere else to live. I wouldn't adhere to a [I]belief system[/I] that I didn't agree with because that's paradoxical. How can you believe and not believe in something at the same time? The abrahamic religions claim themselves to be the pure truth. If you don't agree they are the truth, why follow them? Something can't be true and false.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;43826631]being it's own city state, etc[/QUOTE] oh god the amount of paperwork

[QUOTE=Ramirez77;43846895]The USA isn't a belief system, it's a nation. There probably isn't a single nation whose views I agree 100% with, but I have no choice because there's nowhere else to live. I wouldn't adhere to a [I]belief system[/I] that I didn't agree with because that's paradoxical. How can you believe and not believe in something at the same time? The abrahamic religions claim themselves to be the pure truth. If you don't agree they are the truth, why follow them? Something can't be true and false.[/QUOTE] It isn't a all or none situation though. Another comparison is recorded history. None of it is written in stone. Do we know the Alamo happened? Yes. Do we know exactly how the events unrolled? No. Doesn't invalidate the entire thing.

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[QUOTE=sgman91;43824203]The amount of winners on this OP shows how anti-semitism is alive and well on FP.[/QUOTE] As someone who's lived in Israel for a decent part of his life, there's nothing wrong with intermarriage. It's nice to see people of different races and cultures are getting along... and not bombing each other.

[QUOTE=Monkah;43863551]As someone who's lived in Israel for a decent part of his life, there's nothing wrong with intermarriage. It's nice to see people of different races and cultures are getting along... and not bombing each other.[/QUOTE] It's great that people marry whoever they want, but it's not great to desire a specific group of people to intermarry so that they disappear.

[QUOTE=sgman91;43863607]It's great that people marry whoever they want, but it's not great to desire a specific group of people to intermarry so that they disappear.[/QUOTE] They're only "disappearing" because of their own exclusive policies. It's not like genetically there's any difference between your mother or father being Jewish, but because they think the mother needs to be Jewish eventually there won't be any Jews. It's the collapse of a nonsensical and discriminatory system of classification. I'm sure once this actually becomes a thing they'll just redefine it anyway like nationalists and purists always do.

[QUOTE=sgman91;43863607]It's great that people marry whoever they want, but it's not great to desire a specific group of people to intermarry so that they disappear.[/QUOTE] Precisely. People are paranoid about their culture dying-- but I honestly don't see Judaism living much longer in such liberal societies anyway. Their scripture is hundreds (if not thousnds) of years old and generally doesn't fit too well in modern society anymore. [QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;43863661]They're only "disappearing" because of their own exclusive policies. It's not like genetically there's any difference between your mother or father being Jewish, but because they think the mother needs to be Jewish eventually there won't be any Jews. [/QUOTE] Hey, at least they're not knocking on your door at six in the morning to talk about their religion. Hell, in retrospect, maybe we should keep these Jews around for a while longer.

[QUOTE=sgman91;43863607]It's great that people marry whoever they want, but it's not great to desire a specific group of people to intermarry so that they disappear.[/QUOTE] it's not like anyone is being forced to intermarry. on the other hand, jews being forced to marry other jews is an actual thing

[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;43863978]it's not like anyone is being forced to intermarry. on the other hand, jews being forced to marry other jews is an actual thing[/QUOTE] You say that as if Muslims being forced to marry other Muslims and Christians being forced to marry other Christians isn't a thing. That's not a fault with religion, that's just shitty parenting and moral skills.

im a jew. Oh no.

[QUOTE=slayer64;43842452]So because a small minority of Jews are fucking up the Palestinians, that means the whole lot of them should just die out? This is basically what this is saying, which is hilarious considering how vehemently FP denies being anti-semitic. You people are literally winner-ing the thing Hitler tried to do decades ago. Of course, since Judaism is a religion, which FP also dislikes, this is killing two birds with one stone for all you anti-theist/anti-semites on here.[/QUOTE] Yeah we all know how strongly Hitler supported interracial marriage and assimilating Jews into the gene pool.

I believe in a world without religion. Nothing is more trivial.