People Keep Crashing into Google's Self-driving Cars: Robots, However, Follow the Rules of the Road - Polidicks

[QUOTE=TestECull;47712482]Yes, yes, yes, extol the virtues of the google car while completely ignoring the fact that, unlike real people's cars, this thing gets all the necessary maintenance on time. All the computers in the world will amount to fuck all when the neglectful owner never has the tires replaced or the brakes serviced.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;47712678]Self driving cars are going to be REALLY easy to troll aren't they......[/QUOTE] its funny how its the exact same guys who come out of the woodwork anytime there is news about a vehicle that isnt ICE powered or using tech from the 80s, its like the petrolhead version of neo-conservatives you know you can be a gearhead and like things that are different right? they dont take away your man card or anything

I would trust the Google Car to drive me home more than anyone under the age of 26.

[QUOTE=catbarf;47713160]I think you may have misread his post because he's arguing that the Google cars are working great because they're being serviced and maintained constantly, while cars actually out in regular driving conditions are typically under-maintained and that contributes to accidents.[/QUOTE] If only the computer driving the car could account for wear and tear when determining what is safe. A self-driving car driving a under serviced vehicle is still going to be safer than a human driving an under serviced vehicle provided it can account for the factors of under maintenance, which should be possible. Moreover, the car can drive itself to the mechanic to get serviced, which might encourage more people to do it if they don't really have to think about it. I also find the people who think the car will just stop moving whenever something blocks its path to be uninformed when self-driving cars have shown it's able to do things such as dealing with four way stops by asserting themselves into the intersection when it thinks it is its turn to go. Which is to say, self-driving cars already have the ability to deal with situations beyond the black and white rules of the road. I've talked about this before in a different thread about self-driving cars, but the best "feature" of self-driving cars is that they can, and will, continue to learn from the experiences of all other self-driving cars. So, sure, maybe there's a few cases where the vehicle gets "stuck" because the computer can't figure out a safe way to deal with a situation, then the software is updated and the problem is solved.

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47713195]its funny how its the exact same guys who come out of the woodwork anytime there is news about a vehicle that isnt ICE powered or using tech from the 80s, its like the petrolhead version of neo-conservatives you know you can be a gearhead and like things that are different right? they dont take away your man card or anything[/QUOTE] Hmmmm, it's almost like you think I don't like Teslas, or that I hate the new hybrid technology used in Koenigsegg's new Regera. It's funny how it's the same tired, used assumptions made about all gearheads.

I just don't like the idea of self driving cars. They're inevitable but I'd rather drive.

I'd rather drive too, but I'd also like my car to have the option to drive itself for days I don't feel like sitting in traffic, or when I come stumbling out of a bar and my car can drive me home without having to leave it there for a cab.

[QUOTE=Swilly;47713261]I just don't like the idea of self driving cars. They're inevitable but I'd rather drive.[/QUOTE] why?

Its not so much the benefits. Its the negatives. The FBI has voiced worries that self driving cars bring in a new series of issues such as if blackhats taking control of cars and causing issues. I'm worried about the privacy, removal of human control which will inevitably become completely and the fact we've done zero research into what this could possibly mean for society at large. Just like we have done fuck all in the terms of research and theories around Artificial Intelligence, Cybernetics, Genetic Manipulation, Virtual Reality. We're moving so fast that I feel like we're just going to eventually got caught in dysoptic cyberpunk actual future because we've taken zero care in making sure the steps we're doing will not harm us.

The good thing about the future of the automobile industry is vehicles won't just drive themselves. They'll communicate with each other and the infrastructure around them, have a much better view of the surroundings and the reaction time will be much faster than that of a human. I'm all for driving cars manually, but autonomous vehicles are really cool.

[QUOTE=OvB;47713292]I'd rather drive too, but I'd also like my car to have the option to drive itself for days I don't feel like sitting in traffic, or when I come stumbling out of a bar and my car can drive me home without having to leave it there for a cab.[/QUOTE] It eliminates the dangers of road head too. That's a plus.

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;47712766]So you'd dangerously push past the indecisive cyclist? Just because the cyclist isn't being very courteous doesn't give you the right to put his life at risk.[/QUOTE] he's putting his own life at risk by dangerously going in and out of the lane hth [editline]13th May 2015[/editline] if bikes want to be on the road they should have to obey road rules. if you pull off the road and then pull back on suddenly at 1/4 (most likely slower) speed of traffic in a car, its your fault when you cause an accident, but somehow its everyone elses if hes on a bike?

[QUOTE=OvB;47713292]I'd rather drive too, but I'd also like my car to have the option to drive itself for days I don't feel like sitting in traffic, or when I come stumbling out of a bar and my car can drive me home without having to leave it there for a cab.[/QUOTE] This. As long as in 20 years time I won't have to beg to Big Daddy Google to be able to drive my own car, I'm all for it. If you try and take away one of the things I like most in life, then we have a problem.

[QUOTE=FetusFondler;47713478]This. As long as in 20 years time I won't have to beg to Big Daddy Google to be able to drive my own car, I'm all for it. If you try and take away one of the things I like most in life, then we have a problem.[/QUOTE] I could totally see main thoroughfares and highways being places where you wouldn't be allowed to drive manually, tbh. I mean assuming other cars were all working in sync to keep things moving at an optimal pace having 1 guy in a thousand driving manually might actually be able to screw things up.

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47713563]I could totally see main thoroughfares and highways being places where you wouldn't be allowed to drive manually, tbh. I mean assuming other cars were all working in sync to keep things moving at an optimal pace having 1 guy in a thousand driving manually might actually be able to screw things up.[/QUOTE] That's a future I wouldn't want to live in.

I have to wonder though, it'll be interesting to see self-driving car's reaction when it comes to unconventional vehicle designs like parade floats or buses painted to look like the sidewalk [editline]13th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=TestECull;47712482]Yes, yes, yes, extol the virtues of the google car while completely ignoring the fact that, unlike real people's cars, this thing gets all the necessary maintenance on time. All the computers in the world will amount to fuck all when the neglectful owner never has the tires replaced or the brakes serviced.[/QUOTE] If someone made a script that stops you from seeing any thread even tangentially related to automotive innovation, would you use it?

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47713563]I could totally see main thoroughfares and highways being places where you wouldn't be allowed to drive manually, tbh. I mean assuming other cars were all working in sync to keep things moving at an optimal pace having 1 guy in a thousand driving manually might actually be able to screw things up.[/QUOTE] this is not going to happen in your lifetime [editline]13th May 2015[/editline] probably never

[QUOTE=TestECull;47712482]Yes, yes, yes, extol the virtues of the google car while completely ignoring the fact that, unlike real people's cars, this thing gets all the necessary maintenance on time. All the computers in the world will amount to fuck all when the neglectful owner never has the tires replaced or the brakes serviced.[/QUOTE] I still stand by the opinion that you should be banned from posting in threads that deal with the advancement of cars. You basically hate anything that's not a V8 from 1977. Go away.

Can't wait for the future where humanity has grown into fat blobs unable to even drive a car themselves.

My only concern is, can this thing handle roundabouts? Like if self driving cars were to come to my country you would pass some of the most confusing, fucking dreadful intersections no driver should ever witness. If I had a car that could navigate through those areas with a "no prob" attitude, I'd definitely have a self driving car But I feel police agencies won't like the idea of intoxicated people being behind the wheel of their automated car out of the fact that computers still have a great chance of fucking up at times and you need to be sober enough to take control if that's the case

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;47713689]My only concern is, can this thing handle roundabouts?[/QUOTE] turns out it can't, but they only find out after it's already in use "Rescue operations for the Wilson family are still in motion as authorities find out the Google car is actually TOO good at dodging things. As of now, they have been stuck in the roundabout for over 72 hours. Stay tuned for updates"

I want more footage of the system working like in the OP. But that's the only video of it I found.

I wouldn't have a single problem with these cars if they weren't the absolute dullest, minimalist things imaginable. They've done am excellent job of not only sucking the fun out of driving, but sucking the soul out of you and your car.

Please tell me, how does a multi-milliion dollar project that is slowly being tested and rolled out, with only a handful cars on the road, impact you in such a way? How can a freaking car with sensors, advanced algorithms and awesome driving capabilities be minimalist or even dull. If a car with the ability to drive itself has such an "soulsucking", "fun-destroying" impact on you, you should reconsider your priorities.

[QUOTE=Trumple;47712848]Why would maintaining a self-driving car be any different from a normal one? Do you think people will just forget to maintain them? Or are you implying that most road accidents are caused by under-maintained cars?[/QUOTE] Well he does have a point though, self driving cars (from googles research anyways) are going to have big spinning optics to map their surroundings, and a few other high tech pieces of equipment. I'd say they'll probably get that down to 360° cameras but still they have to make sure those systems are able to see perfectly in every condition, including 10 inches of white-out snow

[QUOTE=Coolboy;47713970]Please tell me, how does a multi-milliion dollar project that is slowly being tested and rolled out, with only a handful cars on the road, impact you in such a way? How can a freaking car with sensors, advanced algoriths and awesome driving capabilities be minimalist or even dull. If a car with the ability to drive itself has such an "soulsucking", "fun-destroying" impact on you, you should reconsider your priorities.[/QUOTE] He meant that, if he were to sit in a self-driven car, that it would be the most unfun experience compared to actually driving it yourself. And I agree. You might as well ride the damn bus for that experience.

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;47713994]He meant that, if he were to sit in a self-driven car, that it would be the most unfun experience compared to actually driving it yourself. And I agree. You might as well ride the damn bus for that experience.[/QUOTE] Except you have to share the bus with other people.

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;47713994]He meant that, if he were to sit in a self-driven car, that it would be the most unfun experience compared to actually driving it yourself. And I agree. You might as well ride the damn bus for that experience.[/QUOTE] I doubt any self-respecting car manufacturer would force the customer to not drive his own car.

[QUOTE=Levelog;47714076]Except you have to share the bus with other people.[/QUOTE] And there's a driver

The day someone gets killed by an automated car is the day the automated car company files for bankruptcy.

if you ban the people who criticise your thing then fp will become reddit 2.0 except circlejerkier and shittier (which is pretty hard to beat tbh)