Flight 370 Crashed in Indian Ocean, Malaysian PM Says
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[QUOTE=Zambies!;44339432]Ditching is incredibly hard to do, the odds of anyone being left are .00000000X[/QUOTE]
Ditching isn't that hard to do. It is finding a strip of water that is flat and smooth.
Hitting water at 120kts is just as bad as hitting land at 120kts.
Engines act like ram scoops so they rip off and as long as the main body was sealed before the crash (they activated a special ditching button that seals all outside ports and vents) it would float for a period of time.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;44339539]Ditching isn't that hard to do. It is finding a strip of water that is flat and smooth.
Hitting water at 120kts is just as bad as hitting land at 120kts.
Engines act like ram scoops so they rip off and as long as the main body was sealed before the crash (they activated a special ditching button that seals all outside ports and vents) it would float for a period of time.[/QUOTE]
Ditching in the ocean, is what I mean. The APU covers and bleed covers get covered up by the ditching button, but if they hit the swell wrong the plane could be launched into the air or cartwheeled.
[editline]24th March 2014[/editline]
My source for the ditching cartwheeling is my General aviation manual for emergency checklists
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;44339122]There is a 0% chance at this time there'd be any survivors, even when the plane hit the water, I doubt anyone survived the hit[/QUOTE]
If the plane was manuverable, the pilot could have made a successfull emergeny landing in the sea. And there have been cases where a plane has crashed into the sea and broken into pieces, but many passangers have survived.
[QUOTE=Maucer;44339573]If the plane was manuverable, the pilot could have made a successfull emergeny landing in the sea. And there have been cases where a plane has crashed into the sea and broken into pieces, but many passangers have survived.[/QUOTE]
It's also been two weeks
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;44339525]that all depends on the recieving carrier settings for the timeout of confirming that the phones off
also apparently depending on which carrier they last checked in with, cause some asian cultures don't really like voicemail, so it just rings indefinitely[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's what I meant by Quite Shit Networks
I bet the ruskies did this
[QUOTE=Polonium9;44339231]the news crews just dream of this. they won't leave them be for a few months.[/QUOTE]
And it's already happened unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=Celestea;44339621]And it's already happened unfortunately.
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wow, the assholes that these guys make of themselves just for "the exclusive"
[QUOTE=Celestea;44339621]And it's already happened unfortunately.
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of course, because the first thing a loved one needs when they hear of a relatives' death is an exclusive interview. If I was in their shoes I'd be pissed
So, is it lost? No one will ever try to find it anymore?
[QUOTE=MatheusMCardoso;44339696]So, is it lost? No one will ever try to find it anymore?[/QUOTE]
They still got something like 15 days or something to get a area where the black boxes are. After that, its mostly a lost cause.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;44339715]They still got something like 15 days or something to get a area where the black boxes are. After that, its mostly a lost cause.[/QUOTE]
Didn't they spend two years trying to find the wreckage of the air france flight? Granted I think that was after they did find one or two pieces of debris.
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Why is CNN being such an ass? They were informed via a press conference.
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Why is CNN being such an ass? They were informed via a press conference.[/QUOTE]
BBC did report the same thing at first tbh
[QUOTE=jordguitar;44339539]Ditching isn't that hard to do. It is finding a strip of water that is flat and smooth.
Hitting water at 120kts is just as bad as hitting land at 120kts.
Engines act like ram scoops so they rip off and as long as the main body was sealed before the crash (they activated a special ditching button that seals all outside ports and vents) it would float for a period of time.[/QUOTE]
My friend is a pilot and she said that most of the procedures are just to keep people from freaking out. Almost all water landings of passenger aircraft end in complete destruction. The Hudson landing was a miracle
[QUOTE=Glitchman;44339888]My friend is a pilot and she said that most of the procedures are just to keep people from freaking out. Almost all water landings of passenger aircraft end in complete destruction. The Hudson landing was a miracle[/QUOTE]
It is by all accounts pretty much a billion to one chance that it went down how it did. The entire crew were awarded medals.
[QUOTE=Tibbolax;44339077]Using a type of analysis never before used in an investigation of this sort, they have been able to shed more light on MH370’s flight path.[/QUOTE]
I can almost hear Sindri335 shouting from across the Norwegian sea.
[editline]24th March 2014[/editline]
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[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;44340244]I can almost hear Sindri335 shouting from across the Norwegian sea.
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i see now
the plane was taken down with Shuriken
[QUOTE=Zambies!;44339552]Ditching in the ocean, is what I mean. The APU covers and bleed covers get covered up by the ditching button, but if they hit the swell wrong the plane could be launched into the air or cartwheeled.
[editline]24th March 2014[/editline]
My source for the ditching cartwheeling is my General aviation manual for emergency checklists[/QUOTE]
Boeings don't have a ditch button, Airbuses do.
Ditching a large passenger aircraft is next to impossible. The hudson landing was like the fucking miracle of the 21st century.
Every bloody major news publication. BBC, Daily Telegraph, the Guardian, the Daily Heil, the list goes on. Big picture of grieving relatives.
Did these lazy, feckless, pointless, opportunistic, good for nothing, waste of oxygen humanity cheapening arseholes learn nothing from Leveson!? LEAVE THEM ALONE.
I announced this at work today when it came up at about 2pm GMT, and my racist, moronic workmate said: "That'll annoy the family of the pilots, they'll have to leave the 5* hotel they were put up in."
Almost hit the cunt.
[QUOTE=Matriax;44341615]I announced this at work today when it came up at about 2pm GMT, and my racist, moronic workmate said: "That'll annoy the family of the pilots, they'll have to leave the 5* hotel they were put up in."
Almost hit the cunt.[/QUOTE]
you're a better man than i
[QUOTE=Gustafa;44339150]They sent them a fucking text message...[/QUOTE]
They probably have to text over a thousand people, calling them would just be an automated message so a text is really no different.
If true, the next questions will surround how long they knew of this, and the action taken so far. Even a BBC correspondent who's out in Malaysia asked their PM why they're holding back so much information and why it is they've found most of the information surrounding flight paths outside of conferences.
[QUOTE=jamzzster;44339818]Didn't they spend two years trying to find the wreckage of the air france flight? Granted I think that was after they did find one or two pieces of debris.[/QUOTE]
They had a search area. This flight does not have any solid search area yet.
Wait, was not thep plane detected west of Malaysia by militar radars, and how it appeared west of Australia now?
Also another thing, can anyone explain me, what is the most probably answer to the radar signal being lost?
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[/B]Eh, ignore the first question, I'm bad at maps and I thought Australia was east of Malaysia, but it is more south of it, I guess the 4 hours of fuel it had could had allowed to go until Australia?
[QUOTE=Fusnax;44343285]Wait, was not thep plane detected west of Malaysia by militar radars, and how it appeared west of Australia now?
Also another thing, can anyone explain me, what is the most probably answer to the radar signal being lost?[/QUOTE]
Radar only works 150 miles off shore.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;44339581]It's also been two weeks[/QUOTE]
Two men survived 47 days on a shitty life raft on the pacific during WWII after ditching. Many passenger planes carry life rafts, and today they are equipped with some survival equipment.
[quote]Families of the passengers will be taken on chartered flights to Australia, according to Sky News sources.[/quote]
I bet they're excited to fly
Translated:
"Face it, they're dead. Now please just forget about this already...it's costing us millions"
[QUOTE=jamzzster;44339818]Didn't they spend two years trying to find the wreckage of the air france flight? Granted I think that was after they did find one or two pieces of debris.[/QUOTE]
Depends on how many are looking for it
By the end of the search they had only 1 ship with a special automated sub to search the sea floor. On the last search the french government was gonna fund they found the black boxes. It was a pretty big long shot that they found them and the boxes were never designed to survive at that depth either let alone for 2 years so it was quite the miracle.
They might be able to calculate a rough search area based on debris found from various locations and correlating it with weather and tidal data in the area and using lots of ships they might find it. They're never gonna find it though before the beacons run out of battery power and by the time they find them they may be no good. So its even a longer crap shot than Air France to say the least.
By the end of this I suspect the NTSB and similar organizations might recommend improved bb's with longer battery life and better survivability and tracking on the ocean floor.
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