• New Spinosaurus fossil found - It spent most of its life in the water!
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Man, imagine if all of these sea dinosaurs were swimming around today, I would never go for a swim.
[QUOTE=heyitsdan;45956256]Fingers crossed that JP4 is an improvement![/QUOTE] Don't count on it, Jurassic World has been a disaster in the making since the beginning. Too many idiots abound for it to be good is my expectation.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;45956687]Don't count on it, Jurassic World has been a disaster in the making since the beginning. Too many idiots abound for it to be good is my expectation.[/QUOTE] Well, all we can do is hope for the best. What I'm wondering now though, with regards to this new discovery, is that if Spinosaurus spent most of its time in the water, did closely related dinosaurs such as Suchomimus and Baryonyx do the same? We suspect they ate fish because of their skulls, but did they swim as often as Spinosaurus?
Is it possible that this spinosaurus is still alive? I mean he lives in the water, he might also be in very deep water somewhere..
[QUOTE=Fourier;45959908]Is it possible that this spinosaurus is still alive? I mean he lives in the water, he might also be in very deep water somewhere..[/QUOTE] If I understand correctly they would still have to surface to breathe.
[QUOTE=Fourier;45959908]Is it possible that this spinosaurus is still alive? I mean he lives in the water, he might also be in very deep water somewhere..[/QUOTE] We would most certainly know with something this size. Corpses would wash up.
Spinosaurus has always been a really cool animal, but it has one of the weirdest reputations I can think of. Mostly because of JP3, of course. Instead of appreciating it for what it is, people seem really set on making it into some kind of bloodthirsty kaiju of a dinosaur. It's really odd.
the fact that mankind will never see dinosaurs alive saddens me so. literally the most outstandingly awesome creatures to ever grace our planet.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;45955619]So it's basically just a very conspicuous crocodile?[/QUOTE] He's traded being inconspicuous for having the hottest outfit of the season. I'd say that's a decent trade-off.
Fucking love dinosaurs The fact that we know so little about them makes them mysterious in a way
[QUOTE=HammerBrute;45960853]the fact that mankind will never see dinosaurs alive saddens me so. literally the most outstandingly awesome creatures to ever grace our planet.[/QUOTE] Watch birds. It's almost the same but much smaller. Seriously watch how birds interact. Some jurassic park shit, yo.
[QUOTE=OvB;45961141]Watch birds. It's almost the same but much smaller. Seriously watch how birds interact. Some jurassic park shit, yo.[/QUOTE] Is it okay to feel sad that reptiles don't act like that.
[QUOTE=heyitsdan;45955665]A very [I]fabulous [/I]crocodile. Imagine seeing several of them swimming in a lake, it would look like a little flotilla of sailing boats![/QUOTE] What if it actually used that sail as a sail
[QUOTE=heyitsdan;45959893] What I'm wondering now though, with regards to this new discovery, is that if Spinosaurus spent most of its time in the water, did closely related dinosaurs such as Suchomimus and Baryonyx do the same? We suspect they ate fish because of their skulls, but did they swim as often as Spinosaurus?[/QUOTE] Spinosaurus seems to just be an evolutionary oddity, the other spinosaurus were obviously adapted to live on the waters edge but Spinosaurus seems to take it to the next extreme
[QUOTE=viperfan7;45961166]What if it actually used that sail as a sail[/QUOTE] Cool idea but the sail is facing the wrong way. A large gust of wind would tip the Spinosaurus over sideways, not propel it forwards.
[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;45960954] I dunno, I just really, really doubt that we won't find anything bigger than a blue whale with how much we know.[/QUOTE] Cthulhu fhtagn.
[QUOTE=Black;45963768]Cthulhu fhtagn.[/QUOTE] As much as you wish to believe, they don't exist.... yet...
We already knew it was a fish-eater and spent a lot of time in water though? It was the big beef with Jurassic Park 3, that a fish eating Dinosaur ripped a Tyrannosaurus Rex a new one?
[QUOTE=HammerBrute;45960853]the fact that mankind will never see dinosaurs alive saddens me so. literally the most outstandingly awesome creatures to ever grace our planet.[/QUOTE] Give genetic manipulation a chance.
[QUOTE=Jorori;45955663]I somehow knew spinosaurus would make more sense being quadrupedal, and I've heard tons of talk about the irregular sail, but I wasn't expecting the teeny tiny legs, it's almost cute :v: And did it really have webbed feet? Wow, I wasn't expecting that from such a big creature. Also, swimming dinosaurs exist already; look at ducks, penguins, grebes, gulls, cormorants, etc...[/QUOTE] The quadrupedality is a bit of a farfetched conclusion tho; theropod forelimbs aren't built AT ALL to bear weight, and the material we have of said part of Spinosaurus (a phallanx) isn't out of the ordinary among theropods. Keeping in mind that those animals had a furcula until proven otherwise, trying to shift their weight upon their forelimbs would result in the wishbone "interacting" with the spine in a way the esophagus, trachea and blood vessels wouldn't enjoy. [thumb]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-5G9wUvmoo4c/VB0yXYaE7_I/AAAAAAAAGWQ/UaINrpubUy0/s1600/spinotest%2Bcon%2Bsigilmassa.jpg[/thumb] This is probably a more likely life posture. Also, there is the fact that one of the long spined vertebra was found out to be quite likely a caudal, and thus the "sail" would extend to the tail, yet here the authors assume the short caudal spine, not associated to any vertebral centrum, to belong to the first caudal. The model included with the study is also somewhat odd, as in clashing a bit with the measurements given in the paper, but it may be a matter of perspective. Still, a monograph is in the making, and I am waiting eagerly for that. The webbed feet are theorical but plausible, but the striking part of the foot is the fact that it has 4 weight-bearing toes rather than the usual 3. Give Scott Hartman ([url]http://www.skeletaldrawing.com[/url]), Andrea Cau ([url]http://theropoda.blogspot.com[/url] , but requires Google Translator or some understanding of technical Italian) and Mark Witton ([url]http://markwitton-com.blogspot.co.uk[/url]) a read, to see how the whole deal seems to be evolving.
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