• Boogie2988, Gamergate supporter, receives death threats
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What the fuck is wrong with these people, it seems i can't go online at the moment without seeing someone getting death threats for something insanely petty like supporting women's rights or liking certain video game related causes. Im not ashamed to admit that Video games are my biggest pass time, and have had a huge impact on my life- but to threaten to kill/rape/ruin someone over fucking video games?- who even does that what the fuuuuuuck
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46242154]Do you really think "rabid sjws" are a significant problem in an industry that lives on paid reviews and shitty business decisions?[/QUOTE] if you're an independent developer and the only marketing you'll ever get are a few articles anyway, yeah that's an issue when developer royalties are based on metacritic scores, yeah those reviewers matter.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;46242178]when they start rigging indie competitions thats basically racketeering, giving extremely good games shitty scores because it doesnt fit their agendas, or people losing their jobs because they dont agree with their ideology, yes i do.[/QUOTE] I must have been asleep the last time a game developer was fired because he didn't confirm to some Sjw's standards. The most recent thing I can recall is a polygon writer giving bayonetta 2 a 7.5, and I doubt that was enough to get anyone at Platinum fired. [editline]15th October 2014[/editline] Shit, my moron phone deleted my last post. I'll continue I'm home in a couple few hours.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46242213]I must have been asleep the last time a game developer was fired because he didn't confirm to some Sjw's standards. The most recent thing I can recall is a polygon writer giving bayonetta 2 a 7.5, and I doubt that was enough to get anyone at Platinum fired.[/QUOTE] Fallout New Vegas's metacritic score was one point short of what it needed for Obsidian to earn royalties from it.
I find it interesting how people who are against GamerGate complain about people who are Pro-GamerGate threaten them, are horrible people, and according to some journalists, "worse than ISIS." yet...now pro-GamerGaters are being threatened by people who claimed to have been threatened. Rather hypocritical, but not surprised in the slightest. But obviously the gaming media won't talk about this so it's going to most likely fly under the radar
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46242154]Do you really think "rabid sjws" are a significant problem in an industry that lives on paid reviews and shitty business decisions? [editline]15th October 2014[/editline] She's not a feminist because, by definition, she's not. She doesn't care about equal work opportunites. I mean for fuck's sake one of her books is about boyhood being destroyed by attempts at equal opportunity, while another is titled "who stole feminism"[/QUOTE] Paid reviews don't really suppress creative freedom. Being languished because you don't have a main female character is sort of a problem.
[QUOTE=john_pelphre;46242292]Paid reviews don't really suppress creative freedom. Being languished because you don't have a main female character is sort of a problem.[/QUOTE] Just a reminder, but paid positive reviews aren't the only problem. Paid negative press for the competition is also a thing. Paid positivity is just a lot easier to spot.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46242138]A Wikipedia bio doesn't really confirm anything about her. I've watched her videos, and her stance on feminism is really awful. Her entire argument is that women just [I]don't want[/I] to do "male" things, like sports, videogames, 9-5 business dude jobs, etc. She's basically the 21st century's version of Phyllis Schlafly.[/QUOTE] It is true that women are simply not interested in joining certain industries, primarily technology-based ones. However, that is not to say that there isn't an influence behind this. The reason why women aren't interested is because they were raised in a social environment where they were taught to enter a certain field. This mostly comes from parents and peers, and not necessarily the industries themselves. It is not because these industries are inherently against women, that would be silly to assume. It is because women were taught not to bother with such things. Who is to blame in this matter? Well, from a sociological perspective, everyone is at fault. Whether an industry is male or female dominated isn't the result of just a patriarchal influence, it is the combined effort of both genders encouraging gender-respective jobs. Whether these jobs represent further sexism (i.e. women in cosmetology because "beauty" is a woman's job, or men in construction because "lifting and building things" is a man's job) or not is certainly up for observation, it is important to note that the cause of these isn't solely men to blame. This sociological perspective is an entirely justified branch of Feminism. No one cares if you think it sucks.
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46242130]Ryūlóng playground, currently not a good place to get a neutral view. You probably need to wait till the entire thing is over till that page comes anywhere near neutrality.[/QUOTE] Yeah the page seems to be heavily biased.
[QUOTE=Flubbman;46242111]Probably a dumb question, but does supporting Gamergate mean you support the journalists involved or the other way around?[/QUOTE] Other way round.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46242213]I must have been asleep the last time a game developer was fired because he didn't confirm to some Sjw's standards. The most recent thing I can recall is a polygon writer giving bayonetta 2 a 7.5, and I doubt that was enough to get anyone at Platinum fired.[/QUOTE] [url]http://mr-cappadocia.tumblr.com/post/97960766962/i-couldve-told-him-sjws-wont-stop-because-they#[/url] a black game dev who is male who got fired for posting himself with #notyourshield And suddenly its okay to give a game a bad rating because it doesnt fit your agenda?
[QUOTE=ADogX;46242273]I find it interesting how people who are against GamerGate complain about people who are Pro-GamerGate threaten them, are horrible people, and according to some journalists, "worse than ISIS." yet...now pro-GamerGaters are being threatened by people who claimed to have been threatened. Rather hypocritical, but not surprised in the slightest. But obviously the gaming media won't talk about this so it's going to most likely fly under the radar[/QUOTE] it's not just now, this shit's been happening the whole time nobody's reporting on it because it doesn't fit whole "gamers r nerds and virgin" narrative that the big-name gaming media sites have set up
It's fascinating and terrible how it's so [I]blatantly[/I] horrible to use threats of violence to try to censor free speech, and yet people do it [I]all the time.[/I]
[QUOTE=ADogX;46242273]I find it interesting how people who are against GamerGate complain about people who are Pro-GamerGate threaten them, are horrible people, and according to some journalists, "worse than ISIS." yet...now pro-GamerGaters are being threatened by people who claimed to have been threatened. Rather hypocritical, but not surprised in the slightest. But obviously the gaming media won't talk about this so it's going to most likely fly under the radar[/QUOTE] this shit has been going on for months now, you don't see it talked about at all by the media because it proves that the anti movement is just as bad, if not worse than GG.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46242154] She's not a feminist because, by definition, she's not. She doesn't care about equal work opportunites. I mean for fuck's sake one of her books is about boyhood being destroyed by attempts at equal opportunity, while another is titled "who stole feminism"[/QUOTE] By what definition. You said you watched her videos about how she apparently thinks "women just don't want to do male things". Well I'm going to say it seems more like someone retold you the contents, because one has to be retarded to get that message. The point of that video was that [b]more research is required to determine the reason[/b] for the situation instead of just declaring "that's a problem, fix it now with quotas". You also didn't read any of the books you claim to be "unfeminist". And what's wrong with a title "who stole feminism"? Is it somehow wrong for a feminist to critique feminism? Is it some kind of cult or something? Or an authoritarian ideology? Because last time I checked, feminism wasn't any of that.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;46242381]It's fascinating and terrible how it's so [I]blatantly[/I] horrible to use threats of violence to try to censor free speech, and yet people do it [I]all the time.[/I][/QUOTE] They [I]attempt[/I] to. The Streisand Effect is real.
[QUOTE=Lord of Ears;46242369]it's not just now, this shit's been happening the whole time nobody's reporting on it because it doesn't fit whole "gamers r nerds and virgin" narrative that the big-name gaming media sites have set up[/QUOTE] that goes without saying. but leaving out the whole "gamers r nerds and virgins" from the current situation, not once have we even heard about the bad stuff people against GamerGate has been doing in local media. Yes, we know about it here on FP, and YTs like EventStatus make it known, but the media is trying it's very hardest to suppress anything that may give GamerGate the advantage. Even the media sometimes gives gamers credit sometimes, but not now. So odds are, we probably won't hear anything Pro-GamerGate in public media ever
Question: who is pro-gamergate and who is anti-gamergate? What does it mean for someone to be for/against an event? I stopped following this whole thing after it got diverted to sexism, so I no clue about anything nor do I want to waste my time reading a book of misinformation on wikipedia
[QUOTE=Fangz;46241949]From what I heard TB has recieved threats as well.[/QUOTE] TB was receiving them long before GamerGate and will be long after of course.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46242213]I must have been asleep the last time a game developer was fired because he didn't confirm to some Sjw's standards. The most recent thing I can recall is a polygon writer giving bayonetta 2 a 7.5, and I doubt that was enough to get anyone at Platinum fired. [editline]15th October 2014[/editline] Shit, my moron phone deleted my last post. I'll continue I'm home in a couple few hours.[/QUOTE] The creator of #gamergate-related hashtag #notyourshield, Jason Miller got fired because SJWs pressured his boss into doing it. Even worse about it, is that he is one of the few black game developers. So long for promoting equality then. [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx8_of_IMAAykKQ.png:large[/IMG] Even worse is that he is still getting slandered lately: [url]https://twitter.com/j_millerworks/status/519716992035475456[/url] Although Miller has been somewhat controversial in his tweets sometimes, that his boss got pressured into firing him, and told him that he got the sack by mail is just scummy.
[QUOTE=Greenen72;46242435]Question: who is pro-gamergate and who is anti-gamergate? What does it mean for someone to be for/against an event? I stopped following this whole thing after it got diverted to sexism, so I no clue about anything nor do I want to waste my time reading a book of misinformation on wikipedia[/QUOTE] 60 seconds [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcWm4B3EU4[/media]
[QUOTE=ADogX;46242416]that goes without saying. but leaving out the whole "gamers r nerds and virgins" from the current situation, not once have we even heard about the bad stuff people against GamerGate has been doing in local media. Yes, we know about it here on FP, and YTs like EventStatus make it known, but the media is trying it's very hardest to suppress anything that may give GamerGate the advantage. Even the media sometimes gives gamers credit sometimes, but not now. So odds are, we probably won't hear anything Pro-GamerGate in public media ever[/QUOTE] The mainstream media wont cover it because it doesn't make good news. Most people don't know the difference between an xbox and a playstation, let alone have an opinion of game journalism.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;46242402]They [I]attempt[/I] to. The Streisand Effect is real.[/QUOTE] I don't know. I feel we are a bit outgunned on this one. It seems the Mass Media, the ones that people who aren't gamers actually listen too are speaking out against the GG movement calling us misogynists as well.
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;46241985]Imagine being such a turbodork that you'd threaten somebody with death and or rape because they didn't agree with your stance on videogames. Like holy shit. These people need help.[/QUOTE] The sad thing is that we're finally past the point where the media blames school shootings and violence in general on video games and now some gamers are very publicly threatening to shoot up schools / kill someone because of video games
[QUOTE=Greenen72;46242435]Question: who is pro-gamergate and who is anti-gamergate? What does it mean for someone to be for/against an event? I stopped following this whole thing after it got diverted to sexism, so I no clue about anything nor do I want to waste my time reading a book of misinformation on wikipedia[/QUOTE] pro-gg: you want games journalism to stop being corrupt. it does not matter what ideologies or stances you hold(democrat/republican, libertarian/socialism, feminist/mra/etc.,) or who you are (black/white, male/female, cis/trans) all you care about is trying to fix the game industry for the greater good. there is no leader for gamergate and mainly acts similar to chanology anonymous except for a few key differences anti-gg: you dont think games journalism is corrupt or think pro-gg is anti-feminist and thus a massive misogynistic movement (protip: they are not) most people that are anti-gg are just misled and think gg is something hate-filled. people who are neutral/pro-gg see things differently. currently the battle is mainly a info war at the moment and it just hit mainstream news
[QUOTE=Greenen72;46242435]Question: who is pro-gamergate and who is anti-gamergate? What does it mean for someone to be for/against an event? I stopped following this whole thing after it got diverted to sexism, so I no clue about anything nor do I want to waste my time reading a book of misinformation on wikipedia[/QUOTE] If you're pro-GamerGate, you think something should be done about the state of games journalism and the indie scene regarding collusion, nepotism etc. If you're anti-GamerGate, you don't agree with that. It could be for a variety of reasons: - you think enough people are using the GamerGate movement to harass women that it's no longer fit for purpose - you don't believe the collusion is taking place - you think the main body of pro-GamerGate is greasy white nerds with warped views about women Hopefully that's neutral enough
[QUOTE=MegaJohnny;46242509]If you're pro-GamerGate, you think something should be done about the state of games journalism and the indie scene regarding collusion, nepotism etc. If you're anti-GamerGate, you don't agree with that. It could be for a variety of reasons: - you think enough people are using the GamerGate movement to harass women that it's no longer fit for purpose - you don't believe the collusion is taking place - you think the main body of pro-GamerGate is greasy white nerds with warped views about women Hopefully that's neutral enough[/QUOTE] There are absolutely people who are pro-gamergate simply because they see it as a way to attack "social justice warriors" and women in general from behind a perceived shield of like-minded individuals. I doubt even pro-GG people would disagree with this outright, but where the two sides disagree is to what degree this element is present in gamergate.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;46242517]There are absolutely people who are pro-gamergate simply because they see it as a way to attack "social justice warriors" and women in general from behind a perceived shield of like-minded individuals. I doubt even pro-GG people would disagree with this outright, but where the two sides disagree is to what degree this element is present in gamergate.[/QUOTE] Absolutely irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;46242499]The sad thing is that we're finally past the point where the media blames school shootings and violence in general on video games and now some gamers are very publicly threatening to shoot up schools / kill someone because of video games[/QUOTE] burner accounts on twitter don't represent anyone. It's as likely those threats were the genuine feelings of someone in the gamer community as it is they were the result of some 14 year old from Canada having a laugh.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;46242530]Absolutely irrelevant.[/QUOTE] How do you figure?
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