• *BREAKING NEWS* Egypt: Mubarak says will not run for presidency again
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[QUOTE=ohadje;27799061]1] Egypt is in a terrible social-economical situation, with high unemployment (around 9.7% according to official records, but you know how that is...) and high amount of poor people (with 17% of the population that make less than 2$ a day). 2]The influence of the Tunisia riots.[/QUOTE] And the fact they've been under martial law for 29 years.
I saw this while watching al jazeera news. He also said that he wants to "Die in soil of Egypt" even though the protesters want him to move to Israel. I seriously want to know what will happen to him
He should step the fuck down already. Nothing he does is helping.
I hope this shit gets sorted out for good of everyone.
[QUOTE=sharzu;27803211]I saw this while watching al jazeera news. He also said that he wants to "Die in soil of Egypt" even though the protesters want him to move to Israel. I seriously want to know what will happen to him[/QUOTE] They'll find him, torture him for as long as possible, then drag him an inch over the border and let him bleed out, thus denying his wish of dying on Egyptian soil.
You guys do know he means his son will take over when he said that, right?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27807426]You guys do know he means his son will take over when he said that, right?[/QUOTE] Actually Mubarak didn't mean that, as he made Suliman his vice president and future heir instead.
[QUOTE=RBM11;27800456]The dude's fucking 82 why can't he just step down? At least he want be remembered in history as being that bad if he did.[/QUOTE] Because he's been in office and has managed the country's affairs for so long that if he just suddenly steps down, it will be difficult if not impossible to find a replacement for him which can as effectively and adequately govern the nation (particularly one which can keep extremists out of Egypt, which Mubarak has been a champion of during his time in office) as he was able to. At this rate, though, intimidation by the rioters to have him simply step down is not going to work, however. They're already reporting that they're having difficulty finding food and that grocery stores are running out of goods. Basically, he can sit back comfortably and starve them into submission. It's worked plenty of times before in history.
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;27807903]Because he's been in office and has managed the country's affairs for so long that if he just suddenly steps down, it will be difficult if not impossible to find a replacement for him which can as effectively and adequately govern the nation (particularly one which can keep extremists out of Egypt, which Mubarak has been a champion of during his time in office) as he was able to.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_ElBaradei[/URL]
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27808393][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_ElBaradei[/URL][/QUOTE] The main problem with him being will he even bother to run for the presidency to begin with lol?
Yay!
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;27808425]The main problem with him being will he even bother to run for the presidency to begin with lol?[/QUOTE] Yeah.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;27808393][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_ElBaradei[/URL][/QUOTE] Or [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amr_Moussa[/url]
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;27807903]Because he's been in office and has managed the country's affairs for so long that if he just suddenly steps down, it will be difficult if not impossible to find a replacement for him which can as effectively and adequately govern the nation (particularly one which can keep extremists out of Egypt, which Mubarak has been a champion of during his time in office) as he was able to. At this rate, though, intimidation by the rioters to have him simply step down is not going to work, however. They're already reporting that they're having difficulty finding food and that grocery stores are running out of goods. Basically, he can sit back comfortably and starve them into submission. It's worked plenty of times before in history.[/QUOTE] That wont work in the 21'st century. Especially not considering how Egypt is a important trading partner to many companies
[QUOTE=Miskav;27801245]Isn't enough. As long as he lives, he'll have control over the elections in one way or another.[/QUOTE] Violent revolutions only end in yet more violence.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;27812972]Violent revolutions only end in yet more violence.[/QUOTE] non violent revolutions end up in the same dictator staying in power even after he dies through his offspring or party members.
[url]http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/[/url] amazing
Why win a rigged election when you can have a puppet president win a rigged election and be seen yourself as a good and humble loser.
[QUOTE=Miskav;27813032]non violent revolutions end up in the same dictator staying in power even after he dies through his offspring or party members.[/QUOTE] So why kill him then, if your counter against someone saying violent revolutions are pointless is that it doesn't matter if he's dead?
Violent revolutions often result in regimes just as bad as the one they brought down. Model example being the french revolution.
[QUOTE=Miskav;27813032]non violent revolutions end up in the same dictator staying in power even after he dies through his offspring or party members.[/QUOTE] Because the collapse of the Eastern Bloc really left a dictator in power,both the Cuban and Russian revolutions led to new dictators being set.
Mubarak, although announcing he will not participate in the next Egyptian elections hasn't given up. Today, Mubarak's men went into the Al-Tahrir square and began using violence against the protesters. Many were injured in today's clashes.
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;27813745]So why kill him then, if your counter against someone saying violent revolutions are pointless is that it doesn't matter if he's dead?[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand. He will pull strings even though he's not the clear leader of the country. [editline]2nd February 2011[/editline] dead people don't often have much influence
[QUOTE=ohadje;27818014]Mubarak, although announcing he will not participate in the next Egyptian elections hasn't given up. Today, Mubarak's men went into the Al-Tahrir square and began using violence against the protesters. Many were injured in today's clashes.[/QUOTE] No one confirmed that they were his goons.
[QUOTE=MachiniOs;27836202]No one confirmed that they were his goons.[/QUOTE] [quote=CNN news report] There were immediate suspicions that the pro-Mubarak demonstrators were not simply average citizens standing up for the man who has led Egypt for three decades -- suspicions that proved at least partly founded [/quote] [quote]Several CNN journalists heard from pro-Mubarak demonstrators that they worked for the government. Staff from the national petrochemical company said they had been ordered to come and protest..[/quote] [quote]Amnesty International researchers said witnesses told them of "lorry loads" of pro-Mubarak supporters leaving Wednesday morning from Mahalla, north of Cairo. "These (pro-Mubarak) protests were organized by the government and the ruling National Democratic Party," analyst Kamal Zakher told CNN. The government mustered government workers and lawmakers whose seats are threatened, he said. "They were ordered to go out today. They are well organized and that is suspicious -- especially the use of camels and horses. These are abnormal techniques to demonstrate," he said, referring to the shocking charge of about 50 or 60 mounted men through Tahrir in the middle of the afternoon. [/quote] [quote]And Emad Shahin, a Mideast analyst at the University of Notre Dame, said "reliable contacts in Egypt" told him the counter-protesters were organized "by Mubarak himself," with the aid of businessmen who support him.[/quote] [url]http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-02/world/egypt.pro.mubarak_1_pro-mubarak-egypt-s-president-hosni-mubarak-anti-government-protests?_s=PM:WORLD[/url]
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