Before presidential run, Trump called Russia the 'biggest problem' and geopolitical foe of U.S. - Polidicks

[QUOTE=sgman91;51681169]Remember when Obama mocked Romney when he called Russia our biggest geopolitical foe? ([URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwQqNdkyZZo&t=1s[/URL]) Man, listening to this again really shows how off Obama was on foreign policy, both about Russia and having troops in Iraq.[/QUOTE] this was also before what may be one of the most egregious violations of international law in recent memory, the annexation of Crimea. Russia shot itself straight back onto the geopolitical stage with that one.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51682459]I don't find this nearly as bad as a candidate who flipped their position on, say, gay marriage. Foreign policy can change. This is how elections go. Obama said some truly awful things about Hillary in '08, then hired her on as Secretary of State. Biden said some uncouth things about Obama before becoming the VP. These things happen. I don't think you have the faintest idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] Nah, as someone that went from rural to city, rural dwellers leave a lot to be desired on the fronts of culture, personality, education, and well, nearly everything. Rural people are simply less developed.

[QUOTE=BrickInHead;51682524]this was also before what may be one of the most egregious violations of international law in recent memory, the annexation of Crimea. Russia shot itself straight back onto the geopolitical stage with that one.[/QUOTE] Sure, but Russia's anti-American intents weren't exactly hidden. [editline]16th January 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Anti Christ;51682613]Nah, as someone that went from rural to city, rural dwellers leave a lot to be desired on the fronts of culture, personality, education, and well, nearly everything. Rural people are simply less developed.[/QUOTE] You're like the posterboy for leftist elitism.

[QUOTE=Marcolade;51681414]"it's only a good idea when [I]we[/I] do it, okay"[/QUOTE] You forget that the left stopped trying to cool stuff down between us after Putin started shit in Ukraine Context is different.

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51682613]Nah, as someone that went from rural to city, rural dwellers leave a lot to be desired on the fronts of culture, personality, education, and well, nearly everything. Rural people are simply less developed.[/QUOTE] Trump was born and raised in NYC so let's not be so high and mighty about how cultured city slickers are.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51682459]I don't think you have the faintest idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE] I was born in Denver. I've lived in San Diego (and other parts of California) before, and I've also spent time in Boston and Seattle. I've spent most of my life however in a rural Northern Missouri town with only about 5,000 people in it. I've spent time in Columbia and now go to school in Kansas City. My family has lived all across the country before I was even born. [url=http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2014/08/26/cnbc-missouri-is-the-3rd-worst-state-to-live-in]This is one of the worst states in the union[/url]. It's down there with Oklahoma, Alabama, Tennessee, and Louisiana-- which as you may have noticed also have significant rural populations. We've got high rates of poverty, lots of crime, hardly any jobs in rural communities and high rates of unemployment/underemployment, drinking and drug problems (no surprise there, but at least we're not the nation's meth capital anymore; Indiana finally beat us), low-quality healthcare and education, we basically only continue to exist as a livable state because of handouts from the federal government (ironic since so many people around here want to get rid of "big government" and end its handouts; apparently they don't understand how much we rely on them), and we're ranked overall as having one of the lowest QOLs in the country. We're also part of the Bible Belt, which brings plenty of fun issues to deal with as well. Unfortunately, I [i]do[/i] know what I'm talking about. No, cities are not all sunshine and happiness. They have their problems too. They can be extremely coldhearted, have bastions of crime, are expensive, etc. But at least when you go to the city you have the opportunity to do something with your life and make something of yourself in the world. You have lots of people you can interact with (different kinds of people too in terms of ethnic/racial background, religion, culture, etc.-- unlike rural communities that try to stay pretty homogeneous and don't usually accept things or people that are different), you have businesses and establishments that offer plenty of chances for employment, you have lots of schools and colleges that you can attend, you have museums and all kinds of attractions you can go to, good restaurants, etc. The only things I've found redeemable about rural areas is that they're quiet and are cheaper to live in. My family has a farm, so if I want to avoid dealing with people, I know that I can always go there and be a mile away from our closest neighbors. That's probably the most awesome part about it. But I haven't got a serious future here. Most people don't. That's why so many of the kids I went to high school with don't live around here anymore. If you want a good education, a good job and the chance to build a career, and if you want to maximize the number of opportunities you'll receive in your life, you're going to have to go to the city and plan on living there for the long term.

[QUOTE=IrishBandit;51681322]We've always been at war with China.[/QUOTE] Except when the US was allies during WWII... Sick of the overt sensationalism.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;51681376]Also the states with a majority of the oil, agricultural lands, most of the mineral mines, freshwater(aquifers and lakes/rivers), and most of the population which doesn't live in cities larger then 75,000 people. The fly-over states are the backbone of this country, and the Democrats were given their eight years to do what they wanted, and now it's back to Republicans. This is sorta how the trend works in this country. It goes back and forth to Republican and Democrat control every four to eight years.[/QUOTE] If you really think modern economy of western states is really deendent on the raw ressources that occur within them you are more naive than I think.

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51682613]Nah, as someone that went from rural to city, rural dwellers leave a lot to be desired on the fronts of culture, personality, education, and well, nearly everything. Rural people are simply less developed.[/QUOTE] I really don't think "less developed" is the right word

[QUOTE=Anti Christ;51682613]Nah, as someone that went from rural to city, rural dwellers leave a lot to be desired on the fronts of culture, personality, education, and well, nearly everything. Rural people are simply less developed.[/QUOTE] That's a stupid gross generalisation and you know it. Being a country person myself, I've met some people in the country who are ignorant and a lot who aren't, and some in the city who are ignorant and some who aren't. It's almost as if people are people and you can't just generalise the whole countryside like that!

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51683713]That's a stupid gross generalisation and you know it. Being a country person myself, I've met some people in the country who are ignorant and a lot who aren't, and some in the city who are ignorant and some who aren't. It's almost as if people are people and you can't just generalise the whole countryside like that![/QUOTE] Well you can easily find statistics to correlate this. [quote]The educational attainment of people living in nonmetro areas has increased markedly over time, but is still well below that of metro residents. In 1960, 60 percent of the nonmetro population ages 25 and over had not completed high school. By 2013—50 years later—that proportion had dropped to 15 percent. Over the same period, the proportion of nonmetro adults ages 25 and older with a bachelor’s degree or more increased from 5 percent to 18 percent; in metro areas, this proportion stood at 32 percent in 2013. [/quote] [url]https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/employment-education/rural-education/[/url] I mean not to be a dick, but being rural is simply to be lagging in several areas and that is fine. Doesn't mean you can't get yourself out of that situation.

[QUOTE=1239the;51681213]Росuсkия[/QUOTE] This breaks the Cyrillic reading brain.

Рускюкия might be more accurate? :v:

[QUOTE=Tudd;51683736]Well you can easily find statistics to correlate this. [url]https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/employment-education/rural-education/[/url] I mean not to be a dick, but being rural is simply to be lagging in several areas and that is fine. Doesn't mean you can't get yourself out of that situation.[/QUOTE] Of course city folk are gonna see higher degrees of formal education--they have access to more of these institutions. But haven't we established that formal education is by no means an indicator of intelligence. Certainly they may earn a higher salary, or command a better grammar/vocabulary, but are they better citizens? Are they better people? I think trying to make this distinction at all is just as disingenuous as trying to divide people up by race or class. These things are immaterial spooks with no tangible bearing on the worth of an individual. Now I do take this very personally, and I hate making this kind of comparison. I don't disagree with your post specifically--this is more directed towards others who might read it and get the wrong impression. Maybe we ought to have a debate subforum to keep these sorts of off topic discussions out of SH.

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