[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/02/aspergers-syndrome-dropped-psychiatric-dsm[/url]
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Asperger's syndrome is to be dropped from the psychiatrists' Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) of Mental Disorders, the American publication that is one of the most influential references for the profession around the world.
The term "Asperger's disorder" will not appear in the DSM-5, the latest revision of the manual, and instead its symptoms will come under the newly added "[URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/autism"]autism[/URL] spectrum disorder", which is already used widely. That umbrella diagnosis will include children with severe autism, who often do not talk or interact, as well as those with milder forms.
The British hacker Gary McKinnon is diagnosed with Asperger's and it contributed to a government decision not to extradite him from Britain to the US on cybercrime charges.
The DSM is used in a number of countries to varying degrees. Psychiatrists in some countries including Britain use the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) published by the World Health Organisation or a combination of both handbooks.
In other changes to the DSM, abnormally bad and frequent temper tantrums will be diagnosed as DMDD, meaning disruptive mood dysregulation disorder. Supporters say it will address concerns about too many children being misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder and treated with powerful psychiatric drugs.
The term "[URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gender"]gender[/URL] identity disorder", for children and adults who strongly believe they were born the wrong gender, is being replaced with "gender dysphoria" to remove the stigma attached to the word "disorder". Supporters equated the change with removing homosexuality as a mental illness in the diagnostic manual decades ago.
The revisions come in the first major rewrite in nearly 20 years of the diagnostic guide used by psychiatrists in the US and other countries. The changes were approved on Saturday.
Full details of all the revisions will come in May 2013 when the American Psychiatric Association's new diagnostic manual is published. The changes will affect the diagnosis and treatment of millions of children and adults worldwide, as well as medical insurance and special education services.
The aim was not to expand the number of people diagnosed with mental illness but to ensure those affected were more accurately diagnosed so they could get the most appropriate treatment, said Dr David Kupfer, the University of Pittsburgh psychiatry professor who chaired the revision committee.
One of the most hotly argued changes was how to define the various ranges of autism. Some on the panel opposed the idea of dropping the specific diagnosis for Asperger's. People with that disorder often have high intelligence and vast knowledge on narrow subjects but lack social skills. Some Asperger's families opposed any change, fearing their children will lose a diagnosis and no longer be eligible for special services, but experts have said this will not be the case.
People with [URL="http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/dyslexia"]dyslexia[/URL] also were closely watching for the update. Many with the reading disorder did not want their diagnosis dropped, and it will not be. Instead, the new manual will have a broader learning disorder category to cover several conditions including dyslexia, which causes difficulty understanding letters and recognising written words.
The shorthand name for the new edition, the organisation's fifth revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, is DSM-5. Group leaders say specifics will not be disclosed until the manual is published but they confirmed some changes. A 2000 edition of the manual made minor changes but the last major edition was published in 1994.[/quote]
Oh, wait. Sorry guys, we all have "autism spectrum disorders" now. Maybe it'll at least mean fewer assburgers jokes?
the DSM never really made sense to me. it's like reification on crack
People who claim to have autism and those who call it 'assburgers' annoy me equally. They need to come and see what somebody with autism REALLY looks like. It's a depressing disorder.
But this was probably going to happen, since the terms linking between all the types of autism are so infinite it's beyond our ability to differentiate at times - since it's partly down to psychiatrist interpretation on what box is ticked and which isn't.
Wait, does that mean I now technically have autism?
Autismpunch?
What specific autism spectrum disorder is responsible for the autism stereotype (Chris Chan) because the vast majority of people with autism cannot even begin to be compared to him.
Asperburgers or super introverts
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;38678022]People who claim to have autism and those who call it 'assburgers' annoy me equally. They need to come and see what somebody with autism REALLY looks like. It's a depressing disorder.
But this was probably going to happen, since the terms linking between all the types of autism are so infinite it's beyond our ability to differentiate at times - since it's partly down to psychiatrist interpretation on what box is ticked and which isn't.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree, I work with autistic children and It's a lot different to someone claiming they have autism or traits of it due to them being unable to talk to another human being from the lack of "social skills"
No, proper autistic children struggle with the very basics of day to day life.
[QUOTE=Moby-;38678205]I completely agree, I work with autistic children and It's a lot different to some sperg claiming they have autism or traits of it due to them being unable to talk to another human being from the lack of "social skills"
[B]No, proper autistic children struggle with the very basics of day to day life.[/B][/QUOTE]
Sort of, and sort of not.
There are definitely differing levels of autism
I myself [I]am[/I] autistic but I never really struggled much as a kid other than when it came to a lack of focus.
So they [I]add [/I]an umbrella term called "Autism Spectrum Disorder" and then change "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria" to avoid the stigma of the word "disorder".
Does this seem strange to anyone else or is it just me?
[QUOTE=Moby-;38678205]I completely agree, I work with autistic children and It's a lot different to some sperg claiming they have autism or traits of it due to them being unable to talk to another human being from the lack of "social skills"
No, proper autistic children struggle with the very basics of day to day life.[/QUOTE]
But now it's "autism spectrum disorder", which means there will be more or less severe cases. Just because someone has a less severe case (if actually diagnosed) doesn't mean they don't have it. It's not like there's a binary bit in the brain somewhere that determines autism or no autism, it's a general classification of a pattern of behavior determined by some general pattern of abnormal development in brain structure or chemistry. Are you going to tell everyone who's not the most autistic person you've met to stop complaining because they're not a proper autistic?
[QUOTE=Forumaster;38678246]So they [I]add [/I]an umbrella term called "Autism Spectrum Disorder" and then change "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria" to avoid the stigma of the word "disorder".
Does this seem strange to anyone else or is it just me?[/QUOTE]
No, its one of the most common criticisms leveled at the DSM.
[editline]2nd December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;38678022]People who claim to have autism and those who call it 'assburgers' annoy me equally. They need to come and see what somebody with autism REALLY looks like. It's a depressing disorder.[/QUOTE]
what part of "spectrum" don't you get
[QUOTE=Forumaster;38678246]So they [I]add [/I]an umbrella term called "Autism Spectrum Disorder" and then change "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria" to avoid the stigma of the word "disorder".
Does this seem strange to anyone else or is it just me?[/QUOTE]
Gender dysphoria can still be recognized as a disorder, it's just not in the name
'Disorder' isn't always synonymous with 'bad'.
[editline]2nd December 2012[/editline]
I guess more people just seem to recognize autism as a 'bad' disorder?
[QUOTE=Moby-;38678205]I completely agree, I work with autistic children and It's a lot different to some sperg claiming they have autism or traits of it due to them being unable to talk to another human being from the lack of "social skills"
No, proper autistic children struggle with the very basics of day to day life.[/QUOTE]
Aspergers tend to be more depressed than most autistic people though, because they tend to be more intelligent to other autistic people, so they realize their socializing problems, unlike allot of other autistic people
[QUOTE=Moby-;38678205]I completely agree, I work with autistic children and It's a lot different to some sperg claiming they have autism or traits of it due to them being unable to talk to another human being from the lack of "social skills"
No, proper autistic children struggle with the very basics of day to day life.[/QUOTE]
That's a pretty arbitrary definition of "proper" autism. You don't need to struggle with the basics of life to be autistic.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;38678022]People who claim to have autism and those who call it 'assburgers' annoy me equally. They need to come and see what somebody with autism REALLY looks like. It's a depressing disorder.[/QUOTE]
That's basically oppression olympics though.
[QUOTE=Moby-;38678205]I completely agree, I work with autistic children and It's a lot different to someone claiming they have autism or traits of it due to them being unable to talk to another human being from the lack of "social skills"
No, proper autistic children struggle with the very basics of day to day life.[/QUOTE]
Ever hear of the term 'high-functioning autistic'?
[QUOTE=The Baconator;38678041]What specific autism spectrum disorder is responsible for the autism stereotype (Chris Chan) because the vast majority of people with autism cannot even begin to be compared to him.[/QUOTE]
Instead of treating his disorder, they fostered it.
It's that simple (and scary)
He's basically a real-life example of how it [B]SHOULD NOT[/B] be handled.0
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38678340]what part of "spectrum" don't you get[/QUOTE]
Oh I'm so sorry for not writing an essay explaining every thought I have on each post to clarify everything I say.
It's a bit narrow minded to say you should only worry about those who are at the far end of the spectrum, there are different degrees of things like these.
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;38678961]Ever hear of the term 'high-functioning autistic'?[/QUOTE]
Yes, there are people who have autism and are highly productive and happy individuals.
These aren't the majority. A very depressing amount really struggle to cope with every day life and need a little bit of help to find their way in the world suffering from a big disadvantage.
Nobody is saying the spectrum doesn't exist. It clearly does.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;38679005]Yes, there are people who have autism and are highly productive and happy individuals.
These aren't the majority. A very depressing amount really struggle to cope with every day life and need a little bit of help to find their way in the world suffering from a big disadvantage.
Nobody is saying the spectrum doesn't exist. It clearly does.[/QUOTE]
But that doesn't mean people that aren't as stricken as those shouldn't be helped, right?
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;38679028]But that doesn't mean people that aren't as stricken as those shouldn't be helped, right?[/QUOTE]
Right.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;38679005]Nobody is saying the spectrum doesn't exist. It clearly does.[/QUOTE]
well you kind of implied that
[quote]People who claim to have autism and those who call it 'assburgers' annoy me equally. They need to come and see what somebody with autism REALLY looks like.[/quote]
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38679170]well you kind of implied that[/QUOTE]
Should be 'what some people'. My mistake.
Don't know why you're making an argument out of it, though.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;38679374]Should be 'what some people'. My mistake.
Don't know why you're making an argument out of it, though.[/QUOTE]
A lot of what some people claim as autism is actual autism, just not severe. Your statement still implies a disbelief in the wide range of autism.
[editline]2nd December 2012[/editline]
Not being specific enough with your sentiments, is what I assume is the problem.
Cool I am autistic now
So does this mean my refugee camp threads are now autism spectrum disorder riddled?
Now I can get back to playing minecraft.
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