• Amnesty International: Israeli authorities must stop demolitions of Palestinian homes
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If someone breaks into my home, and I have a gun, I would shoot them. Is there something wrong with that?
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699151]So in your opinion, Israel just likes being a dick?[/QUOTE] Just like South Africa.
[QUOTE=kevn150;22698775]Then why do the most successful people living in America support a political policy of conservatism?[/QUOTE] because it's beneficial to them and unbeneficial to the rest of society? i thought this shit was basic for most people
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699190]If someone breaks into my home, and I have a gun, I would shoot them. Is there something wrong with that?[/QUOTE] Guess the Arabs were freedom fighters all along then? Rather than intelligently debating with facts, you resort to stupid analogies. Maybe you should refrain from arguing if you can't bring anything productive to the conversation?
[QUOTE=GunFox;22699133]I don't give a shit what the UN says. I really don't. They pass laws and then don't enforce them. Either enforce the laws and resolutions, or shut the fuck up. It cheapens the concept of rule by law to make laws that are unenforceable.[/QUOTE] Because they are shit at enforcing them, they should be broken? What?
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;22699210]Guess the Arabs were freedom fighters all along then?[/QUOTE] Zing (1x)
[QUOTE=GunFox;22699100] Basically I am of the opinion that law is meant to protect people with as little encroachment on the freedoms of the people it protects as possible. However at the same time, it is still completely possible to have a government that has strong social assistance programs. Welfare, scholarships (And of course education itself), foreign aid, government health care, these are all things that benefit everyone whether they use the program directly or not. We currently employ a punitive criminal justice system and, as a result, we have one of the highest populations of incarcerated individuals in the world. We have a system that makes it virtually impossible for an ex-convict to ever get a job again and return his life to normalcy. We carefully craft this never ending cycle that is brutally effective at taking the children of former convicts and making THEM into criminals. Our probation officers are so fucking thick, that they don't even realize that part of their job is reintegrating people into society. It's ridiculous. We need to REFORM criminals, not simply PUNISH them. We need to stop criminalizing possession, at the very least, and start viewing it as an illness that needs to be treated. Overwhelming percentages of crime are based almost entirely around, or committed under the influence of, illegal narcotics. Military action should always be a last resort, it should also however be extraordinarily brutal and unforgiving when pursued. I am a huge fan of never setting boots on the ground anywhere, instead simply crippling a target through the use of overwhelming air power. Obviously certain situations call for ground power on occasion, but avoiding it is ideal. If I speak to the use of military action too frequently, it is generally because theorizing about effective tactics with military units is much more entertaining than figuring out what the hell two diplomats are going to talk about over tea. My love of firearms is likely simply southern blood. They are to me what cars are to other people. So yeah. If I take a side in an argument, it's often not for the reasons people think.[/QUOTE] honestly this is a lot more than i expected from the post i made. you seem to be much more level-headed than the posts i've previously seem from you indicate. i had you pegged for a republican, when you actually seem like a decent person. sorry for the misunderstanding
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699151]So in your opinion, Israel just likes being a dick?[/QUOTE] no
[QUOTE=JDK721;22699153][url]http://www.facepunch.com/showpost.php?p=22699100&postcount=144[/url][/QUOTE] He said if he breaks into his home, which is completely reasonable. I'll also be fucked if I'm going to risk my life to assess if someone is actually a legitimate threat.
[QUOTE=Jund;22699187]Do you know what would be the best for me? Killing everyone in the entire world, as they can all harm me in someway. What's I'm implying that Israel is doing this for their own selfish reasons, under the guise of doing "what is best for their country".[/QUOTE] What selfish reason? Elaborate. Reasons for occupying a foreign area: -Natural resources: no, insurgents can't be converted to fossil fuels. -Expanding borders: no, Israel doesn't have enough military numbers to cover another 500 miles of borders, nor do they need the space. -Revenge: this has obviously got to be it, even though Palestinians didn't partake in a genocide against them. -Gain international attention: no, why would Israel want several extremists attention. -Security: yes, stops most of Hamas from occupying Gaza and the West Bank; secures Israel's borders
[QUOTE=Sporkfire;22699210]Guess the Arabs were freedom fighters all along then?[/QUOTE] That was beautiful.
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699270]What selfish reason? Elaborate. Reasons for occupying a foreign area: -Natural resources: no, insurgents can't be converted to fossil fuels. -Expanding borders: no, Israel doesn't have enough military numbers to cover another 500 miles of borders, nor do they need the space. -Revenge: this has obviously got to be it, even though Palestinians didn't partake in a genocide against them. -Gain international attention: no, why would Israel want several extremists attention. -Security: yes, stops most of Hamas from occupying Gaza and the West Bank; secures Israel's borders[/QUOTE] thanks for listing the only five reasons a nation could ever have for occupying a 'foreign' area special thanks for providing your ridiculous bullshit 'yes or no' parts for each one
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22699268]which is completely reasonable.[/QUOTE] no, it's not shooting someone over stealing your TV isn't reasonable at all
[QUOTE=JDK721;22699299]no, it's not[/QUOTE] He's not saying for stealing his TV, are you stupid or just blind
let's not fall back into that hole stay on topic
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22699305]He's not saying for stealing his TV, are you stupid or just blind[/QUOTE] god damn i love your avatar
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22699305]He's not saying for stealing his TV, are you stupid or just blind[/QUOTE] breaking in and stealing your TV non violent crime - the person's not a threat to anyone you don't murder someone for that you fucking tool
[QUOTE=JDK721;22699335]breaking in and stealing your TV non violent crime - the person's not a threat to anyone you don't murder someone for that you fucking tool[/QUOTE] Oh okay he said "Breaking in and stealing my TV" sorry I must have just missed the whole "stealing my TV" part. No, he said "breaking into my house", how do you know what someone's intentions are when breaking into a house? How do you know they're not fucking crazy and would try to kill you if you tried to get in their way? The world is not a disney movie.
[QUOTE=Chippay;22699295]thanks for listing the only five reasons a nation could ever have for occupying a 'foreign' area special thanks for providing your ridiculous bullshit 'yes or no' parts for each one[/QUOTE] Sorry let me fix that. Reasons for occupying a foreign area: -Natural resources: yes, insurgents can be converted to fossil fuels. -Expanding borders: yes, Israel doesn't give a fuck about borders, they just want to be bigger. -Revenge: yes, Israel was the kid who got bullied in school and wants to get payback on it's neighbors. -Gain international attention: yes, why else would the IDF have shot peaceful activists who were just delivering humanitarian aid. -Security: no, the USA gives them all the security they will ever need. -Being a general douchebag: yes, see Revenge.
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699353][QUOTE=Chippay;22699295]thanks for listing the only five reasons a nation could ever have for occupying a 'foreign' area special thanks for providing your ridiculous bullshit 'yes or no' parts for each one[/QUOTE] Sorry let me fix that. Reasons for occupying a foreign area: -Natural resources: yes, insurgents can be converted to fossil fuels. -Expanding borders: yes, Israel doesn't give a fuck about borders, they just want to be bigger. -Revenge: yes, Israel was the kid who got bullied in school and wants to get payback on it's neighbors. -Gain international attention: yes, why else would the IDF have shot peaceful activists who were just delivering humanitarian aid. -Security: no, the USA gives them all the security they will ever need. -Being a general douchebag: yes, see Revenge.[/QUOTE] you aren't very good at this posting thing
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699353]Sorry let me fix that. Reasons for occupying a foreign area: -Natural resources: yes, insurgents can be converted to fossil fuels. -Expanding borders: yes, Israel doesn't give a fuck about borders, they just want to be bigger. -Revenge: yes, Israel was the kid who got bullied in school and wants to get payback on it's neighbors. -Gain international attention: yes, why else would the IDF have shot peaceful activists who were just delivering humanitarian aid. -Security: no, the USA gives them all the security they will ever need. -Being a general douchebag: yes, see Revenge.[/QUOTE] stop embarrassing yourself your posts that are designed to be insulting are even worse than the posts you mistakenly believe contribute to this conversation
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22699348]how do you know what someone's intentions are when breaking into a house? How do you know they're not fucking crazy and would try to kill you if you tried to get in their way?[/QUOTE] because they're holding your fucking TV in two hands not everyone who breaks into your house is Ted Bundy - most of them are there just to steal shit and leave
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699353]-Natural resources: yes, insurgents can be converted to fossil fuels.[/QUOTE] actually you can if you really wanted to
[QUOTE=Perfumly;22699348]Oh okay he said "Breaking in and stealing my TV" sorry I must have just missed the whole "stealing my TV" part. No, he said "breaking into my house", how do you know what someone's intentions are when breaking into a house? How do you know they're not fucking crazy and would try to kill you if you tried to get in their way? The world is not a disney movie.[/QUOTE] I'd still shoot him regardless. I wish the US had some of the policies of other countries like Singapore in which criminals loose constitutional rights.
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699376]I'd still shoot him regardless. I wish the US had some of the policies of other countries like Singapore in which criminals loose constitutional rights.[/QUOTE] you are a terrible person
[QUOTE=wonkadonk;22699369][QUOTE=kevn150;22699353]-Natural resources: yes, insurgents can be converted to fossil fuels.[/QUOTE] actually you can if you really wanted to[/QUOTE] it'd be like solyent green
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699353]Sorry let me fix that. Reasons for occupying a foreign area: -Natural resources: yes, insurgents can be converted to fossil fuels. -Expanding borders: yes, Israel doesn't give a fuck about borders, they just want to be bigger. -Revenge: yes, Israel was the kid who got bullied in school and wants to get payback on it's neighbors. -Gain international attention: yes, why else would the IDF have shot peaceful activists who were just delivering humanitarian aid. -Security: no, the USA gives them all the security they will ever need. -Being a general douchebag: yes, see Revenge.[/QUOTE] I think it's your bed time.
[QUOTE=JDK721;22699367]because they're holding your fucking TV in two hands not everyone who breaks into your house is Ted Bundy - most of them are there just to steal shit and leave[/QUOTE] Seriously when did he say anything about a fucking television? You're making up something aside from the argument to make it seem like I'm 'wrong'. The scenario is a guy breaks into your house. All you can see is him, he's not holding a god damned TV.
[QUOTE=kevn150;22699376]I'd still shoot him regardless. I wish the US had some of the policies of other countries like Singapore in which criminals loose constitutional rights.[/QUOTE] congrats on being a fascist who doesn't value human life
[QUOTE=Lambeth;22699388]it'd be like solyent green[/QUOTE] It'd be Soylent Gas
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