[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35286500]It's a black kid, who was shot by a white guy, why is this instantly assumed it's racist? Admittedly I'm not exhaustively keeping up with this situation so i have likely missed some details, but did Zimmerman actually DO or say anything that indicated that this was racially motivated?[/QUOTE]
Listen to the 911 call, zimmerman was mumbling "damn coons"
[QUOTE=Omali;35287037]No, it's being considered as a racist act because Zimmerman has an apparent history of calling the police every time he sees a black kid, assuming the kid is a criminal.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough then, good chance of it having a racist motivation.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35287062]Fair enough then, good chance of it having a racist motivation.[/QUOTE]
took ya long enough.
[QUOTE=Pal13;35287744]took ya long enough.[/QUOTE]
Before that comment there was nothing in the thread that suggested a racist motivation other than the fact the kid was black and the shooter was white.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35287752]Before that comment there was nothing in the thread that suggested a racist motivation other than the fact the kid was black and the shooter was white.[/QUOTE]
i'd read about this before, and caught the fact that zimmerman had a history of being a racial profiling vigilante. if this is yer first time reading about it, fair enough. but if you stated it was just a murder and heard this story before, i still feel the same.
Now THAT's a plot twist.
[QUOTE=Pal13;35287815]i'd read about this before, and caught the fact that zimmerman had a history of being a racial profiling vigilante. if this is yer first time reading about it, fair enough. but if you stated it was just a murder and heard this story before, i still feel the same.[/QUOTE]
I had saw little snippets of it through thread titles, just not in the sort of mood lately to read stories about kids being murdered, just really want to believe that the world isn't as bad as the news makes it out to be and this sort of shit makes it hard.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35287872]I had saw little snippets of it through thread titles, just not in the sort of mood lately to read stories about kids being murdered, just really want to believe that the world isn't as bad as the news makes it out to be and this sort of shit makes it hard.[/QUOTE]
It's truly saddening man.
Sounds like he was paid to say it unless zimmerman screams like a little girl in those 911 tapes.
[QUOTE=T3hW1nn3r;35288012]Sounds like he was paid to say it unless zimmerman screams like a little girl in those 911 tapes.[/QUOTE]
Why the hell would zimmerman or anyone else, pay someone to lie on zimmermans behalf?
Seriously, enlighten my ass as to why someone would pay someone, to lie on behalf of some crochety old bugger who has a penchant for hating black folk?
the kid could've beat him because Zimmerman flashed a gun, you know
not only that but
WHY would the kid even attempt that? You don't just beat the shit out of someone like that unless you have a good reason. The guy was told to stay back but he didn't even then you know, I think that should be evidence to the fact that he probably did something out of hand that justifies getting the shit beat out of him
The 911 scream sounded very much like [I]a young kid[/I], not [I]a grown man[/I]
What kind of idiot can't pull a gun out and back up and send a warning before getting beat?
I just don't see it, I seriously am still for martins side, not only that but this isn't a video, so yeah. And there are too many holes that still point to Martin being innocent. If a large man that was 100 pounds over me walked up with a gun drawn, I would probably beat the shit out of him as well if I felt the need and could.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35288027]
Seriously, enlighten my ass as to why someone would pay someone, to lie on behalf of some crochety old bugger who has a penchant for hating black folk?[/QUOTE]
because <insert tin foil hat idea here>
[QUOTE=J!NX;35288081]the kid could've shot him because Zimmerman flashed a gun, you know[/QUOTE]
Yeah but did Zimmerman get shot?
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35288027]Why the hell would zimmerman or anyone else, pay someone to lie on zimmermans behalf?[/QUOTE]
Because Zimmerman doesn't want to go to jail (not that he's likely to to begin with). Either he's panicking and he thinks he's going to get punished when he likely isn't, or he's somehow gathered the intellect to think forward and realize someone might come after him if he gets off scot-free in what looks like a clear-cut hate crime.
[QUOTE=Cone;35288120]Because Zimmerman doesn't want to go to jail (not that he's likely to to begin with). Either he's panicking and he thinks he's going to get punished when he likely isn't, or he's somehow gathered the intellect to think forward and realize someone might come after him if he gets off scot-free in what looks like a clear-cut hate crime.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but why would someone lie for him? I understand it works well for Zimmerman, but what possible incentive could someone have to lie, and commit a crime by perverting the course of justice, and risk going to prison themselves, for Zimmerman, a guy who is clearly a known racist?
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35288102]Yeah but did Zimmerman get shot?[/QUOTE]
was a typo rate me dumb pl0x
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35286500]It's a black kid, who was shot by a white guy, why is this instantly assumed it's racist? Admittedly I'm not exhaustively keeping up with this situation so i have likely missed some details, but did Zimmerman actually DO or say anything that indicated that this was racially motivated?[/QUOTE]
Hispanic.
[QUOTE=J!NX;35288135]was a typo rate me dumb pl0x[/QUOTE]
Nah it's fine :glomp:
[editline]25th March 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;35288164]Hispanic.[/QUOTE]
Welp, shows how much I've been keeping up with the story v:v:v
Sure took a while for someone to say that, don't you think?
[I]but WHY in the fuck was martin attacking zimmerman in the first place?[/I]
[QUOTE=Dr. Fishtastic;35289021][I]but WHY in the fuck was martin attacking zimmerman in the first place?[/I][/QUOTE]
Black rage.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;35286500]It's a black kid, who was shot by a white guy, why is this instantly assumed it's racist? Admittedly I'm not exhaustively keeping up with this situation so i have likely missed some details, but did Zimmerman actually DO or say anything that indicated that this was racially motivated?[/QUOTE]
He called him a fucking coon ON the phone call are you kidding me
[url=http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf]The Police Report[/url]
[quote]"Zimmerman complied with all of my verbal commands and was secured in handcuffs. While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered with grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head."[/quote]
The story keeps getting more and more interesting.
[QUOTE=Splendor;35286697]I think you need to reevaluate my post and realize that I was being snarky with the rabid libruls of FP. They'd never use a term like narrative in a situation like this, atleast not consciously.[/QUOTE]
It was quite obvious you were being sarcastic considering your previous racist rants and your outright declarations:
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29483720/racist%20mingus.png[/img]
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;35289180]He called him a fucking coon ON the phone call are you kidding me[/QUOTE]
Maybe he saw a raccoon trying to loot a trashbin.
guys this isn't racism, zimmerman is half hispanic
[QUOTE=RO;35289288]guys this isn't racism, zimmerman is half hispanic[/QUOTE]
So are you saying half-Hispanic people can't be racist towards blacks?
Maybe Trayvon panicked and confronted Zimmerman when he realized he was following him, and that's when things got physical.
Then when Zimmerman found the opportunity, he pulled his gun on him?
[QUOTE=Starpluck;35289307]So are you saying half-Hispanic people can't be racist towards blacks?[/QUOTE]
No I'm saying that because I feels there's too much 'oh typical white guy hating a black person', they interviewed one of the protesters in new york who said 'treyvon was killed because he wasn't white enough'
[QUOTE=Craig Willmore;35289247][url=http://cnninsession.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/martinpolicreport.pdf]The Police Report[/url]
The story keeps getting more and more interesting.[/QUOTE]
I want to hear more, people don't just flip out and beat the shit out of someone like that unless they have a reason
[QUOTE=RO;35289288]guys this isn't racism, zimmerman is half hispanic[/QUOTE]
:downs:
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