• Taliban Says It Will Target Names Exposed by WikiLeaks
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[QUOTE=Swilly;23769870]So not going through it and wiping out names of innocent civilians is the totally right thing to do. :downs: Renegade Points Achieved. P.S. I would have congratulated them, if they hadn't rushed it out onto their site.[/QUOTE] Their editors put in a lot of work to limit what was released.
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;23766796]1. Taliban (aka. US Government) threatens to kill people in the wikileaks report. 2. USA makes wikileak illegal 3. Problem solved[/QUOTE] its a conspiracy maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
[QUOTE=Ragy;23767998]Wikileaks is all fine and dandy if they want to support freedom of information, but if soldiers get hurt from their actions, they stepped over their boundaries.[/QUOTE] putting them in the war to begin with got them hurt [editline]03:25AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Ragy;23768197]I never said not supporting a war is wrong, you're totally in your rights. When the media covers a war fully and its made public by everyone, it turns the people against it, because war is nasty.[/QUOTE] so that's a bad thing?
fucking unpatriotic wikileak bastards, can they get tried for murder for this?
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;23770821]fucking unpatriotic wikileak bastards, can they get tried for murder for this?[/QUOTE] Should American soldiers be tried for the deaths of civilians then or can they neatly blame all civilian casualties on the Taliban? In fact they're in Sweden so no they can't.
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;23770821]fucking unpatriotic wikileak bastards, can they get tried for murder for this?[/QUOTE] So anyone who isn't a patriot should be tried for murder? btw, they're Swedish
[QUOTE=Warhol;23772079]So anyone who isn't a patriot should be tried for murder? btw, they're Swedish[/QUOTE] They released classified documents, which last time I checked, is highly illegal.
if they were american and they did a good thing
I seriously wish they did a better job. I care for intentions but when innocent lives are on the line, you have to go through with a fine tooth comb. How long did they even look at these?
I'd very much like someone to point out exactly where the names of people are in these documents. The only names i've found so far are of those already dead e.g. reports of assassinations by the Taliban
[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;23770821]fucking unpatriotic wikileak bastards, can they get tried for murder for this?[/QUOTE] There is nothing more patriotic than challenging your government. ...which would apply if they were American
This is why classified documents are [b]CLASSIFIED[/b].
[QUOTE=imadaman;23767684]Posting to a new page ------ Just to point out. No killing has yet happened. Wikileaks intends to prevent any killing.[/QUOTE] 1. It will. Don't be naive, read the OP. This is a fuck-up - no excuses. 2. Too late.
More then 60% of the blame goes to the U.S Media. The Taliban would've never found out that the names were in the documents if the media didn't literally 'advertise' it.
You can't know that - and it's irrelevant. Wikileaks still erred, grossly.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;23774466]You can't know that - and it's irrelevant. Wikileaks still erred, grossly.[/QUOTE] WikiLeaks erred grossly and the media takes part of the blame as well for publicizing it.
Yeah, pretty much.
execute wikileaks founder and anyone involved in releasing the documents tia
[QUOTE=bobste;23774870]execute wikileaks founder and anyone involved in releasing the documents tia[/QUOTE] And freedom of information dies with them.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;23767236]criminal negligence[/QUOTE] I don't think that qualifies in this situation since they did in fact comb for names.
[QUOTE=Warhol;23775015]And freedom of information dies with them.[/QUOTE] ;-;
Posting to a new page ------ Just to point out. [quote]The Taliban has now confirmed it is poring through the documents, and intends to hunt down and punish any suspected spies named. [/quote] No killing has yet happened. [quote]In a world where mainstream media seems to be increasingly under the thumb of corporate and political interests, Wikileaks is indeed a gamechanger, available at any moment to do the whisteblowing dirty work. But Wikileaks still isn’t totally free: under pressure from the White House, the New York Times urged Wikileaks to withhold certain details from its website; Wikileaks had already admitted to withholding 15,000 documents until it could redact the names of individuals whose safety could be jeopardised. [/quote] Wikileaks intends to prevent any killing. ----- [url=http://arabnews.com/world/article93019.ece]Source[/url] [quote]WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. in an interview aired Thursday that WikiLeaks had contacted the White House - via The New York Times acting as intermediary — and offered to let government officials go through the documents to make sure no innocent people were identified. The White House did not respond to the approach, he said. A Pentagon spokesman, Marine Col. David Lapan, said Friday it was "absolutely false" that WikiLeaks contacted the White House or other elements of the US government to offer a pre-release review. [/quote] U.S. Government could have helped, they chose not to, and decided to deny the request for help.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;23773238]I'd very much like someone to point out exactly where the names of people are in these documents. The only names i've found so far are of those already dead e.g. reports of assassinations by the Taliban[/QUOTE] Read the thread, some of the names have been pointed out already. [editline]08:46AM[/editline] [QUOTE=starpluck;23774520]WikiLeaks erred grossly and the media takes part of the blame as well for publicizing it.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make any sense. The media didn't publish the names, wikileaks did. How exactly does the media take blame for pointing out something that was already there when the Taliban was already reading through the diary anyway?
[quote][16:35] <Odin> I've not yet seen any example of intelligence source names being revealed in the published documents. That doesn't mean that no such reports exist, but they are clearly rarer than the Times of London would have you believe.[/quote] From Wikileaks chat.
[QUOTE=Billiam;23775062]I don't think that qualifies in this situation since they did in fact comb for names.[/QUOTE] man that was on page 2 don't bring me back into this it's disappointing that you lot value transparency over human lfe, it really is
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;23778806]man that was on page 2 don't bring me back into this it's disappointing that you lot value transparency over human lfe, it really is[/QUOTE] Freedom and life are to values I hold high, don't start that on me pal. :colbert: Also I missed and found it when I reread the thread. :smith:
i'd sacrifice the ability to see the atrocities in iraq if it saved even one person without hesitation [editline]10:24AM[/editline] granted it is a very important thing to see what's going on
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;23779044]i'd sacrifice the ability to see the atrocities in iraq if it saved even one person without hesitation [editline]10:24AM[/editline] granted it is a very important thing to see what's going on[/QUOTE] When you put it that way, it's a pretty simple answer, but transparency is a war-buster and a corruption buster.
Every seems to be missing the big fact that releasing classified documents is still highly illegal. It may be all good for the freedom of information, but that makes it none the less illegal. He will be arrested and put in prison for a very long time, which is kinda what happens when you release classified documents of one of the most powerful countries in the world.
[QUOTE=Ragy;23780402]Every seems to be missing the big fact that releasing classified documents is still highly illegal. It may be all good for the freedom of information, but that makes it none the less illegal. He will be arrested and put in prison for a very long time, which is kinda what happens when you release classified documents of one of the most powerful countries in the world.[/QUOTE] third time: they're not american
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