[QUOTE=Why485;40515019][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ViUPNoRoI[/media][/QUOTE]
I fucking love Generation Kill
I am an Atheist, and do not participate in before-formation prayers and such, and no one dings me on it because of the protection we all enjoy to have our own separate religious beliefs, or lack thereof. The rule that you cannot preach your religion to other Soldiers has been around for a long time. It is essential to the task and mission too, as you need a unit of every different belief and background to come together and get the mission done, not spending time trying to convert each other.
[QUOTE=Araknid;40514764]The sensationalism barrier has been broken.[/QUOTE]
Not yet.
[I]In a horrendous purge of freedom, antichrist Hussein "Hitler" Obama murders constitution[/I]
There.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40515064]Please tell me more about your right wing persecution complex[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to come up with a party-centric play on words like 'fursecution' but then again if we're talking about Fox it kinda works
[QUOTE=SKEEA;40515393]I am an Atheist, and do not participate in before-formation prayers and such, and no one dings me on it because of the protection we all enjoy to have our own separate religious beliefs, or lack thereof. The rule that you cannot preach your religion to other Soldiers has been around for a long time. It is essential to the task and mission too, as you need a unit of every different belief and background to come together and get the mission done, not spending time trying to convert each other.[/QUOTE]
I was speaking to some soldiers in the Australian Army and they said that the expectation is you don't discuss religion or politics because it just causes a mess
[QUOTE=download;40515484]I was speaking to some soldiers in the Australian Army and they said that the expectation is [highlight]you don't discuss religion or politics because it just causes a mess[/highlight][/QUOTE]
this is revolutionary
[QUOTE=daijitsu;40515522]this is revolutionary[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if it's an expectation ADF wide or just in their company/battalion/regiment, so it may not be universal, it also may be rather new
[QUOTE=download;40515484]I was speaking to some soldiers in the Australian Army and they said that the expectation is you don't discuss religion or politics because it just causes a mess[/QUOTE]
It really does cause a mess, so at work we avoid those topics like the plague. Off duty, those conversations rarely ever come up anyways. They are much better left avoided.
I'm curious as to how this will affect chaplains, as they are technically preachers, and whose job is to preach.
Know the source is bad, but let's look at the author
[quote]Robert Moon is an award-winning researcher, published author, [b]and former Regional Coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots.[/b] He has organized for conservative causes and candidates for the last fifteen years, is a former Precinct Committeeman and is currently stationed overseas.[/quote]
Well then.
This source is bogus. There seems to be some truth to this because of the comments. Anyone care to explain what's going on?
[QUOTE=Mudbone;40516088]This source is bogus. There seems to be some truth to this because of the comments. Anyone care to explain what's going on?[/QUOTE]
Well
[QUOTE=john_pelphre;40514684]I chose the worst source in the world for this, because this is sensational as possible.
If you read the article, it's actually saying that, on a case by case basis, trying to convert people to your religion in the military can get you Court Martialed. It's just also full of attacks on obama.[/QUOTE]
[editline]3rd May 2013[/editline]
Basically you can't try to convert others to you're religion, but there is nothing about saying you cannot practice your own religion.
uhh, is this really necessary? Wouldn't Christians make better soldiers... fighting for god and all that.
My point still stands.
[QUOTE=danelo;40516604]uhh, is this really necessary? Wouldn't Christians make better soldiers... fighting for god and all that.[/QUOTE]
didn't reaaaad.
[editline]3rd May 2013[/editline]
Im okay with this, really. I hate the idea of seeking people to convert anyway. If they want to change, they'll seek it.
Wow, first they remove the bible references from our weapons' serial numbers, and now [I]this?[/I]
In fox's mind, you can believe what ever you want. So long as you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.
That first paragraph, no actually, that whole article is sensationalist as hell.
[QUOTE=Phaselancer;40516766]In fox's mind, you can believe what ever you want. So long as you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.[/QUOTE]
Unless you believe Jesus Christs' message of love of fellow man is universal and counts for [I]every[/I] fellow man, and not just the straight, white upper-middle-class kind of fellow man.
[QUOTE=Riller;40516782]Unless you believe Jesus Christs' message of love of fellow man is universal and counts for [I]every[/I] fellow man, and not just the straight, white upper-middle-class kind of fellow man.[/QUOTE]
That's devil talk boy.
[url]http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/17_franken.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Phaselancer;40516766]In fox's mind, you can believe what ever you want. So long as you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.[/QUOTE]
And unregulated freemarket economics, tax cuts for the rich, more military spending and less healthcare spending.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;40516885]And unregulated freemarket economics, tax cuts for the rich, more military spending and less healthcare spending.[/QUOTE]
I want the government to get out of my toy collection and into other people's vaginas
[QUOTE=danelo;40516604]uhh, is this really necessary? Wouldn't Christians make better soldiers... fighting for god and all that.[/QUOTE]
America isn't a theocracy. Get out.
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;40517172]America isn't a theocracy. Get out.[/QUOTE]
Officially? No.
Practically? Still not a theocracy but certainly not secular enough.
[QUOTE=Van-man;40514737]Well hey, you're supposed to be fighting for your country, not your religion.
[B]Nice way of filtering the retards from the sane people though.[/B][/QUOTE]
Just gonna say that you are a horrible person.
[QUOTE=Psychokitten;40514709]Not sensationalist enough.[/QUOTE]
Wow, king news head over here.
[QUOTE=danelo;40516604]uhh, is this really necessary? Wouldn't Christians make better soldiers... fighting for god and all that.
My point still stands.[/QUOTE]
Uh that becomes a crusade which is very very bad for the PR war.
[quote]Never mind the fact that the separation of church and state is a myth that cannot be found anywhere in the Constitution (as I have explained before), or that it in no way violates anyone's rights to have to witness or tolerate someone else exercising their faith...or that the only actual violation of the Constitution here is this tyrannical Atheist attack on the 1st Amendment.[/quote]
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[quote]76% reject the left's 'church and state' myth[/quote]
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[quote]"Separation of church and state" appears nowhere in the Constitution. Additionally, the Bill of Rights was drafted specifically to convince hesitant states that this new federal government would not trample their rights...including their religious rights. As with everything else in the Bill of Rights, the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment was a protection of the states vs. the federal government; it was a protection against a national religion.[/quote]
UM
[QUOTE=danelo;40516604]uhh, is this really necessary? Wouldn't Christians make better soldiers... fighting for god and all that.
My point still stands.[/QUOTE]
I am an atheist, but that doesn't preclude me from being a good soldier.
bullshit source, stupid thread title, great job
This is true to a very small extent. I know a marine who received non-judicial punishment or preaching and pressing his religion on others.
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