[QUOTE=Coppermoss;40515953]I'm curious as to how this will affect chaplains, as they are technically preachers, and whose job is to preach.[/QUOTE]
Most people who listen/talk to a chaplain probably want to (and if its a decent chaplain he won't annoy those that don't) so I can't imagine it being too much of a concern.
so gay is suddenly not punishable, but christianity is?
[editline]4th May 2013[/editline]
ah written by a tea party advocate... not sure if its exactly creditable
[QUOTE=SKEEA;40520357]I am an atheist, but that doesn't preclude me from being a good soldier.[/QUOTE]
But how can you do a job without feeling moral superiority while you do it??
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40521840]But how can you do a job without feeling moral superiority while you do it??[/QUOTE]
Look Zeke, no offense, but I really cannot tell if you are being serious here. My sarcasm detector is broken.
[QUOTE=Sableye;40521693]so gay is suddenly not punishable, but christianity is?[/QUOTE]
It's not like the two are comparable anyway.
[QUOTE=Sableye;40521693]so gay is suddenly not punishable, but christianity is?
[editline]4th May 2013[/editline]
ah written by a tea party advocate... not sure if its exactly creditable[/QUOTE]
you choose religion
you don't choose sexuality
there's some leeway being missed here to defend religion
So if a certain someone in our building gave me crap for requesting "atheist" on my dog tags, and tried to talk to me about why I'm wrong about my life choices, then I could potentially get them to back off through a court martial? I hope this is legit. I really want her to worry about her own preferences rather than mine for once. It makes me feel out of place when she calls me out like that.
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[QUOTE=l33tkill;40526410]So if a certain someone in our building gave me crap for requesting "atheist" on my dog tags, and tried to talk to me about why I'm wrong about my life choices, then I could potentially get them to back off through a court martial? I hope this is legit. I really want her to worry about her own preferences rather than mine for once. It makes me feel out of place when she calls me out like that.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, she could get in big trouble. Don't you have an EO rep? Go to them. The AF has EO reps for flights, right?
[editline]4th May 2013[/editline]
Also that would be more of a "warning" first situation, then probably escalate to a letter of counseling, then Article 15 if the problem continues.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;40515138]i am not liberal i am socialist[/QUOTE]
Doesn't liberal in the american sense actually mean socialist?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40526256]you choose religion
you don't choose sexuality
there's some leeway being missed here to defend religion[/QUOTE]
To be honest I'd actually argue that you generally rarely actually choose your religion either. In the sense that it is something you grow up and pick up as you would speech. If you come from a normally religious (not ultra conservative) family, you will likely be religious. if you come from a normally atheistic family, you will probably end up as an atheist.
There's people that change their belief certainly as they grow up and mature, but overall I'd say this isn't such a great number.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;40522129]Look Zeke, no offense, but I really cannot tell if you are being serious here. My sarcasm detector is broken.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's sarcasm. The notion that a religious person would be a better soldier is asinine.
I've always found it weird that people actually join the military while their one of their religion's main principle is that they shall not kill.
As great as this is, i really don't want to give the morons any more reason to call Obama the anti-christ just because they don't understand what he did with this law. Just like some of the people in this thread whp think e's actively booting Christians out of the military just because they are christian.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;40527338]Doesn't liberal in the american sense actually mean socialist?
To be honest I'd actually argue that you generally rarely actually choose your religion either. In the sense that it is something you grow up and pick up as you would speech. If you come from a normally religious (not ultra conservative) family, you will likely be religious. if you come from a normally atheistic family, you will probably end up as an atheist.
There's people that change their belief certainly as they grow up and mature, but overall I'd say this isn't such a great number.[/QUOTE]
But that doesn't work. They are not the same. I don't think you choose the religion you grow up in. But you can always choose to leave and be different. You can't choose not to be gay, you're just hurting yourself.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40527428]Yes, it's sarcasm. The notion that a religious person would be a better soldier is asinine.[/QUOTE]
If I were fighting the undead I would definitely want a paladin on my side.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40527574]If I were fighting the undead I would definitely want a paladin on my side.[/QUOTE]
Muslims are now the undead? jesus no wonder these wars are taking awhile, pic related:
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Ontopic, but how am I supposed to spread Odinism so me and my fellow soldiers can go to Valhalla?
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;40527596]
Ontopic, but how am I supposed to spread Odinism so me and my fellow soldiers can go to Valhalla?[/QUOTE]
I dunno what this Odinism is but if you want to die gloriously and be resurrected in Valhalla:
Join the navy, put in work until you can become the head of a carrier group, go rogue, start pillaging coastal cities around the world
[QUOTE=mac338;40515408]Not yet.
[I]In a horrendous purge of freedom, antichrist Hussein "Hitler" Obama murders constitution[/I]
There.[/QUOTE]
We can still do better than that.
[I]American people are awakened to a horrifying new world as president Obama reveals his communistic agenda of butchering the rights of the christian citizens serving in the armed forces, driving them underground[/I]
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;40515044]Facepunch when some far-left liberal's Examiner.com blog reports on how republicans are literally hitler for killing people and destroying the country: great source!
Facepunch when some far-right conservative's Examiner.com blog reports on how dat evil socialist Obama is taking away muh freedomz: OMG LOL WHAT A TERRIBLE SOURCE!!!!!!!!!!111 LITERALLY WORSE THAN FOX NEWS!![/QUOTE]
lol yeah except your delusional and no one ever said that without getting dumbs and we don't hate republicans
just the ones who are cunts and don't get the point
[QUOTE=danelo;40516604]uhh, is this really necessary? Wouldn't Christians make better soldiers... fighting for god and all that.
My point still stands.[/QUOTE]
its against trying to convert people and trying to preach
and no believing in god doesn't make you better thats just silly... but I know where you're coming from
The sensationalism in that excerpt is off the charts. We may have a new record here.
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;40524795][IMG]http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/139452/original.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
yeah no one misses him sorry
[QUOTE=Steve Harvey;40528818]yeah no one [b]with a shred of sense[/b] misses him sorry[/QUOTE]
There, that takes into account the wackos in the South.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40527735]I dunno what this Odinism is but if you want to die gloriously and be resurrected in Valhalla:
Join the navy, put in work until you can become the head of a carrier group, go rogue, start pillaging coastal cities around the world[/QUOTE]
Coastal cities around the world? pfft that comes after, first my friend, we sail for England. [img]http://forums.saber-scorpion.com/style_emoticons/default/viking.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=FunnyStarRunner;40524795][IMG]http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/139452/original.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Just keep painting yourself in the shower, buddy.
[QUOTE=download;40514741]I bet what's actually happening is the criminalisation of discrimination against non-Christians. I've heard of some things in the US military like people not getting promotions or being treated like shit because they're not Christian[/QUOTE]
hahaha so people are getting mad because not being able to put other people down based on their beliefs isn't allowed anymore? what bigoted wastes of human skin
I dont really see how being Christian affects anyone?
read the article and the thread
Just wait till /r/atheism gets ahold of this
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;40514768]Fair enough for your average soldier, but making illegal for a preacher to preach is a bit retarded.[/QUOTE]
a chaplain isnt just a christian. hes trained in last rites for various religions.
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