• Elon Musk to unveil the Hyperloop at 1:30 PDT
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It will be a very hard feat to accomplish, but then again we're talking about elon musk here. He must have one of those twisty thingy time machines Hermione had.
[QUOTE=OvB;41813880]I'm not convinced that's his release. It wasn't posted on his Twitter and that's just an artists rendition. It doesn't seem to fit the bill to me. Going to wait until it's officially on his twitter.[/QUOTE] The same image is featured in the PDF that just went up on SpaceX.com fuck all da haterz [editline]12th August 2013[/editline] Speaking of which, the download was reaaallly slow so here's a mirror: [url]http://puu.sh/40qTK.pdf[/url]
This is magnificent! [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/xqA1kN7.png[/IMG]
Someone please make this
[QUOTE=smurfy;41813899]Official website just went up [url]http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop[/url][/QUOTE] The first 5 pages pretty much say that this is hard to do and that theres a lot of physics involved in even attempting something like this.
I would love to go on these as opposed to a plane. I have a fear of flying. Going 800 mph in a tube sounds fun though.
Wow that's really detailed.
This man is an engineering genius.
And here's the blog post [url]http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/hyperloop[/url] oh wait it's the same as the website
[quote]The intent of this document has been to create a new open source form of transportation that could revolutionize travel. The authors welcome feedback and will incorporate it into future revisions of the Hyperloop project, following other open source models such as Linux.[/quote] I love Elon & friends. [editline]12th August 2013[/editline] [quote]A high speed transportation system known as Hyperloop has been developed in this document. The work has detailed two version of the Hyperloop: a passenger only version and a passenger plus vehicle version. Hyperloop could transport people, vehicles, and freight between Los Angeles and San Francisco in 35 minutes. [B]Transporting 7.4 million people each way and amortizing the cost of $6 billion over 20 years gives a ticket price of $20 for a one-way trip for the passenger version of Hyperloop.[/B] The passenger plus vehicle version of the Hyperloop is [B]less than 9% of the cost of the proposed passenger only high speed rail system between Los Angeles and San Francisco. An additional passenger plus transport version of the Hyperloop has been created that is only 25% higher in cost than the passenger only version. This version would be capable of transport passengers, vehicles, freight, etc. The passenger plus vehicle version of the Hyperloop is less than 11% of the cost of the proposed passenger only high speed rail system between Los Angeles and San Francisco. Additional technological developments and further optimization could likely reduce this price.[/B][/quote] This is unbelievable. If these numbers are correct it would be a shame for this not to happen.
SpaceX website is down for me. [editline]12th August 2013[/editline] Now it is back.
i give it 20 years until elon musk builds himself an iron man suit
[QUOTE]“Over 1,000 miles, the tube cost starts to become prohibitive, and you don’t want tubes every which way. You don’t want to live in Tube Land.”[/QUOTE] Oh but I do.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/ARWaaOk.png[/img] I love me some Hyperloop specs but "Falcon 9v1.1 - Reentry Nozzle Study" is intriguing.
Wait, vehicles? The tubes/trains are larger than I am picturing them then.
[quote]@elonmusk 32m Btw, this is not the very latest version. Will post an updated version with several late arriving corrections in a few hours.[/quote]
[QUOTE=hogofwar;41814475]Wait, vehicles? The tubes/trains are larger than I am picturing them then.[/QUOTE] Theres a passenger only tube and a vehicle+passenger tube which is slightly larger. Though in all likelyhood if this ever comes to fruition the passenger-only system will likely be done over the vehicle one simply because it'll be a total cost of about $1b less.
...A total cost of $7.5bn? There has to be a mistake somewhere, that's ridiculously cheap...
[QUOTE=Deiru;41814637]...A total cost of $7.5bn? There has to be a mistake somewhere, that's ridiculously cheap...[/QUOTE] Remember, this guy has always been out there with this kinda stuff. I won't be surprised if he can make that happen. For less.
God. imagine if something went wrong. sitting inside a 700mph death tube, no thank you. Then again, people probably said the same thing about the airplane.
[QUOTE=_Maverick_;41815243]God. imagine if something went wrong. sitting inside a 700mph death tube, no thank you. Then again, people probably said the same thing about the airplane.[/QUOTE] You could say that about any mode of transport.
[QUOTE=_Maverick_;41815243]God. imagine if something went wrong. sitting inside a 700mph death tube, no thank you. Then again, people probably said the same thing about the airplane.[/QUOTE] There is a whole section in the PDF about various 'what ifs'. The whole thing is in a tube so there's nothing to crash into even if all systems fail
The future is now.
Well, if this is as cost effective as he says then he should have absolutely no problem getting tons of private investors. The red tape of making something like this might be prohibitive though.
[QUOTE=Deiru;41814637]...A total cost of $7.5bn? There has to be a mistake somewhere, that's ridiculously cheap...[/QUOTE] It's not [I]that[/I] cheap for a single line between two cities. But it's a hell of alot cheaper than any other comparable mode of transportation (namely, high speed rails), and much more efficent to run. Will likely be more expensive and require more specialized labor to maintain, but who cares when its so fast and pushing so much traffic? It'll basically connect all the cities together that are connected by it economically, giving massive boosts to tourism/travel/shopping/workforce/etc between all the cities planned (at the moment, just SF/LA with a detour route to las vegas and some other smaller californian city that hooks up to the center of the line).
I can't imagine the carbon footprint would be very big with something like this. it's mostly run by magnitisum right?
[QUOTE=smurfy;41815419]There is a whole section in the PDF about various 'what ifs'. The whole thing is in a tube so there's nothing to crash into even if all systems fail[/QUOTE] My favorite bit is that the capsules basically coast for 90% of the trip, meaning that even if power and all systems are lost the battery on the capsule itself will keep the cabin operational and the capsule will still be able to complete the trip considering its just coasting there anyways. So for all intents and purposes, the passengers wouldn't even know if a power failure happened because the whole system works passively (it just can't speed up without power). Though it is kind of freaky how there is basically no oxygen in the tube, so if there is a pressure breach from inside the cabin you have to wear and oxygen mask like on an airplane :v:
[QUOTE=_Maverick_;41815516]I can't imagine the carbon footprint would be very big with something like this. it's mostly run by magnitisum right?[/QUOTE] It's covered in solar panels that generate more than enough energy for the whole operation day and night. Capsules are 100% electric, and the main propulsion is 100% magnetic.
[QUOTE=_Maverick_;41815516]I can't imagine the carbon footprint would be very big with something like this. it's mostly run by magnitisum right?[/QUOTE] Actually no, because magnetisim is very expensive. The document mentions some kind of frictionless-air method to the point where it just coasts for most of the trip. Also solar power on the tubes. EDIT: Maybe not? I read a line that they didn't use magnets due to cost, but I guess I'm wrong? Maybe magnets are used to propel it, but not to keep it going.
Well I am quite dissapointed. The price feels really lowballed, especially for something that doesn't even have a test track. Also if you look at the map it doesn't even go to downtown LA, skipping a massive amount of transit connections. But my biggest problem comes down to capacity. Sure a 35 minute trip with a train every 2 minutes sounds good on paper but with only 28 people per car that means this thing can only move a measly 840 people per hour. For example the UK's HS2 will be pushing 26,000 people per hour, over 30 times the capacity. If Musk can revise the plans to address longer trains bringing the PPH up to more reasonable standards then I would concede that this is a challenger to CHSRA but for now it's a literal unfunded pipedream.
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