Meet Kwasi Enin: The boy who was accepted into EVERY Ivy League school - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Kondor;44426308] that sounds dumb [/QUOTE] think about it this way, they have to research every applicant before accepting them, which costs time and money. if there was no application fee then every high school student across the country could easily just apply there without any downsides, simply as a backup.

this kid has literally not had a childhood. why do people do this.

[QUOTE=Megafan;44426280]I'd like to know what school you went to where these grades aren't that impressive. Even the high school here in a UC town has a great reputation and tons of AP classes (as well as offering Chinese, Japanese, and German in addition to French and Spanish), and anyone here would say that's some impressive work.[/QUOTE] When you consider the stats of students generally accepted into Ivy league schools, he's probably within one of the lower ranking percentiles. His stats are certainly up there, but not as up there as one would expect for such prestigious schools, where only the [I]best[/I] of the best are generally admitted. Kwasi is only quasi-exceptional. That being said, I don't think it's fair to say that he has affirmative action to thank for this. I'm almost certain that if you looked at a list of all the potential applicants for these schools, there'd be a ton of black applicants with better credentials (probably ones that didn't apply to every single Ivy league school). One must consider the fact that these schools only accept a limited number of students ever year as well. His family is obviously rich and didn't seem to mind putting in all the dosh for those applications. He probably just got lucky.

pretty much if you are accepted into one ivy league you are accepted into all anymore, colleges are so snipey they'll do shit like that to get the other schools potential geneus still props for filling out like every application and writing like probably 50 essays [editline]2nd April 2014[/editline] also he's probably rich to go to a school that even offers 11 ap classes, even though PSEO is much much better PSEO is a program in Ohio where instead of having to take an ap test and potentially get half the credit at a school, you are given credit like its a normal college class, so fuck you gen eds my school only had like 2 ap classes anyways

[QUOTE=Mbbird;44426645]this kid has literally not had a childhood. why do people do this.[/QUOTE] Society would dictate that we work not to live, but live to work.

[QUOTE=Senscith;44423125]Everything has to meet racial diversity quotas.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regents_of_the_University_of_California_v._Bakke"]no[/URL]

still just because the supreme court struck them down, it hasn't stopped schools from using quotas...that's kinda why they've been back to the supreme court like 5 times now.

private institutions can still use quotas

[QUOTE=Oscar Lima Echo;44422930]If he ranks 11th in his class, what happened to the guy who ranked 1st?[/QUOTE] At least at my high school, the #1 was just a guy who could have done well with taking AP courses/dual enrolling, but was too lazy. A lot of the time, the AP courses are hard enough that you can take a hit in GPA that ends up putting you below an underachiever.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;44425858]Actually I would say he's (using this non-ironically) privileged. Fucking 11 AP classes, so you know he went to one of those rich upper class schools. He had more opportunities than the average Joe does.[/QUOTE] ??? since when were ap classes privileged to rich upper class high schools? my public, lower middle class high school with about 4k students freshmen to senior had 18 ap classes.

[QUOTE=pyschomc;44422929]11 AP classes? well then, he sure is going to graduate faster[/QUOTE] Too bad Ivy League schools don't accept AP credits.

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[QUOTE=Chinook249;44425218]My friend at my school actually got a 2400 and has a 4.0, does california youth symphony in first (or second? i can't recall) chair, lots of community service, extracurriculars, and spends at least two hours a day after school helping out in Robotics. Not to mention he's ace at piano too. Rejected from Stanford. That's ridiculous. I did hear, however, that Stanford likes to see you "focus" on something, i.e. don't be good at everything..[/QUOTE] A few of my lecturers have noted to me that the students that graduate their bachelors in physics with GPAs of 4.0 or close to (and are generally regarded as 'exceptional' in their undergraduates) seem to perform a lot worse than other students do in honours, masters and Ph.D settings. In general there's a lower pass rate in postgrad degrees at our uni for those who make it through bachelors with a high GPA compared to those who make it through their bachelors with a lower GPA. One of my lecturers was saying how he suspects that there's probably a fundamental difference in the brain of a person who can 'reproduce' work very easily versus someone who can come across an entirely unfamiliar idea and actually perform research based around it. I don't know if that's a trend that exists everywhere, but if so maybe that's a potential reason as to why a university would be reluctant to accept someone who at a glance appears 'perfect'.

His face just says "I did it for the fun of it" :v:

[QUOTE=pyschomc;44422929]11 AP classes? well then, he sure is going to graduate faster[/QUOTE] Can someone tell me what an AP class is?

[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;44427397]Can someone tell me what an AP class is?[/QUOTE] Advanced Placement. Basically lets you take College courses for credit while in High School.

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;44426704][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regents_of_the_University_of_California_v._Bakke"]no[/URL][/QUOTE] Yes, quotas are illegal, but at the same time the courts have found "diversity" to be a legitimate factor when deciding who's admitted. So people can still legally be admitted for no other reason than their skin color. The hilarious part is how people think skin color brings diversity. Diversity is only useful when it's diversity of ideas, not diversity of genetics. So instead of a bunch of rich white kids you get a bunch of rich white kids and rich black kids. They all come from families with the same basic ideas and upbringing, but simply because of their differing skin color the college claims "diversity." i.e.: A room with a rich white guy from New York and a poor white guy from Texas is almost certainly going to be more diverse than a room with a rich white guy from Manhattan and a rich black girl from Manhattan.

[QUOTE=Falubii;44425060]It's so the universities can get extra cash.[/QUOTE] Harvard alone reviews something like 30 000 applications. That's a lot of administrative work. So at least some part of the fee is motivated.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44425076]they could charge 500 dollars an application fee and people would still pay.[/QUOTE] And they could make it $10 and people would still be deterred.

I have a buddy who goes to Brown, he took 12 or so AP classes too, and got a 2400 on the SAT. I personally took 9 AP classes, some of which were complete jokes (Environmental Science, Government, Macro Economics). I also went to a public school, fortunately I lived just within the limits to go to a public school in a really rich area.

It kind of makes you feel shitty when here you are working your ass off to get into a good college and this guy just easily gets in everywhere.

[QUOTE=Billiam;44426513]That's because his stats aren't uncommon among applicants to Ivy League schools. People who have attended any large to medium high school within the last four years or so have probably seen applicants with higher SATs, more AP classes, and higher rank.[/QUOTE] who still don't manage to get into all the ivies you do realize that because ivies get applicants with all that, that they care even more about ec's and other stuff which this guy obviously was doing there were maybe at most two people who got into all the ivies in my entire state i only knew one [editline]2nd April 2014[/editline] every one of these "impressive kid" articles get shit on by people who are nowhere near as hard-working or talented and its absolutely hilarious

Big deal, my friend did 30 AP classes, got a GPA of 10, and got full scholarships to Harverd, Cambridge, and Hogwarts.

[QUOTE=mchapra;44428529]It kind of makes you feel shitty when here you are working your ass off to get into a good college and this guy just easily gets in everywhere.[/QUOTE] "easily"

[QUOTE=maxumym;44424737]It... costs money to just [i]send an application[/i]? That's bloody retarded.[/QUOTE] Welcome to America, comrade. [editline]2nd April 2014[/editline] So was this really an April Fool's prank, or did this just happen to come up at the wrong time of the month? I don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting into every single Ivy League before.

[QUOTE=sgman91;44427591]Yes, quotas are illegal, but at the same time the courts have found "diversity" to be a legitimate factor when deciding who's admitted. So people can still legally be admitted for no other reason than their skin color. The hilarious part is how people think skin color brings diversity. Diversity is only useful when it's diversity of ideas, not diversity of genetics. So instead of a bunch of rich white kids you get a bunch of rich white kids and rich black kids. They all come from families with the same basic ideas and upbringing, but simply because of their differing skin color the college claims "diversity." i.e.: A room with a rich white guy from New York and a poor white guy from Texas is almost certainly going to be more diverse than a room with a rich white guy from Manhattan and a rich black girl from Manhattan.[/QUOTE] You realize the odds of someone applying being equivalent to you in every way except for race is about as likely as the odds of them randomly picking you from the pool of people you're tied with (which would be the only other sensible option if you were all truly equivalent). No one is actually admitted "just because of their race" they just get the tiniest of boosts when compared to the shitload of applications that are all the same. Because like it or not, regardless of economic standing, you ARE still in danger of being discriminated against for the color of your skin. So instead of just drawing straws they pick the one that's at danger of being disadvantaged. I also find it funny that the people who hate affirmative action are usually the libertarian types who hate laws that businesses can't deny services. Guess those private institution rights aren't so great when the shoe's on the other foot.

[QUOTE=Venezuelan;44430319]You realize the odds of someone applying being equivalent to you in every way except for race is about as likely as the odds of them randomly picking you from the pool of people you're tied with (which would be the only other sensible option if you were all truly equivalent). No one is actually admitted "just because of their race" [B]they just get the tiniest of boosts when compared to the shitload of applications that are all the same.[/B] Because like it or not, regardless of economic standing, you ARE still in danger of being discriminated against for the color of your skin. So instead of just drawing straws they pick the one that's at danger of being disadvantaged. I also find it funny that the people who hate affirmative action are usually the libertarian types who hate laws that businesses can't deny services. Guess those private institution rights aren't so great when the shoe's on the other foot.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't quite call it "the tiniest of boosts." [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/MFooZrx.jpg[/IMG] And since I was skeptical of the image since hey, it's uncited, I did a little rummaging and unearthed this; [URL="https://www.aamc.org/download/321518/data/2012factstable25-4.pdf"]acceptance rates for white students,[/URL] [URL="https://www.aamc.org/download/321514/data/2012factstable25-2.pdf"]black students, [/URL][URL="https://www.aamc.org/download/321512/data/2012factstable25-1.pdf"]Hispanic students [/URL][URL="https://www.aamc.org/download/321516/data/2012factstable25-3.pdf"]and Asian students.[/URL] While the acceptance rates are pretty uniform at the highest GPA/MCAT, and there is in fact a (very slight) bias towards whites/Asians at the extreme low, Blacks and Hispanics enjoy a good +20-50% of getting in around the mid-range of GPA/MCAT.

I'd need to see the actual number of applicants representing each group for that to be impressive. If a large majority of the applicants are white and there's only a handful are black, that percentage would not be much higher even if you eliminated the black applicants entirely

Read the sources bro.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;44428845]who still don't manage to get into all the ivies you do realize that because ivies get applicants with all that, that they care even more about ec's and other stuff which this guy obviously was doing there were maybe at most two people who got into all the ivies in my entire state i only knew one [editline]2nd April 2014[/editline] every one of these "impressive kid" articles get shit on by people who are nowhere near as hard-working or talented and its absolutely hilarious[/QUOTE] Most people shit on this kind of thing because of sour grapes for the most part, you can't really do jack about that. Everybody wants to be accepted to the college of their choice, but because of circumstances, grades, or other reasons, can't get there. This makes some of them very jealous of those who do get accepted into various high end places like everything in the Ivy League. This was nothing new in my part of the world either, whenever somebody ends up ranked #1 in the final exams, they get called no life nerds by others who didn't do as well. Even more sad because competition can be equally fierce here over scarce college seats.