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[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;40506866]what are you talking about it's a military style semi-automatic rifle there is literally nothing wrong with this description[/QUOTE] What makes it "military-style?" The pistol grip? The barrel shroud? The fact that it's semi-automatic? All of these? There's probably way more guns on the civilian market that match this description than in use by the Military, so why is it "military-style?" Are civilians not allowed to own an ergonomic gun? The only thing that would make it justifiably "military-style" is if it was automatic. This is just more CNN fear-mongering. The other news report CNN sources said AR-15, so of course CNN has to make it sound evil.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40507050]What about it makes it "military style"?[/QUOTE] It's styled like a military rifle. This isn't hard folks. [QUOTE=Scot;40506974]Every single one of these threads turns into "lol silly media getting guns' names wrong".[/QUOTE] Even when they don't name the gun. [editline]2nd May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DaCommie1;40507108]What makes it "military-style?" The pistol grip? The barrel shroud? The fact that it's semi-automatic? All of these? There's probably way more guns on the civilian market that match this description than in use by the Military, so why is it "military-style?" Are civilians not allowed to own an ergonomic gun? The only thing that would make it justifiably "military-style" is if it was automatic. This is just more CNN fear-mongering. The other news report CNN sources said AR-15, so of course CNN has to make it sound evil.[/QUOTE] Right, other sources cited it as an AR-15. [I]Which is a military style weapon because it looks similar to guns people in the military use[/I]. And how are they fear mongering? Please point out the part where they monger fear. Reading comprehension doesn't mix well with paranoid delusions about the media.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507157]It's styled like a military rifle. This isn't hard folks. [/QUOTE] And that means? It could have anything on it and be called a military style weapon. Name one thing that a civilian weapon has on it for distance visual identification that a military one hasn't had.
[QUOTE=Vodkavia;40507189]I seriously doubt it was a military style rifle, with that out of the way they could have just called it a semiautomatic rifle.[/QUOTE] It was an AR-15 which aesthetically doesn't look dissimilar from military rifles. Ergo, the term "military-style" is an entirely valid detail.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507226]It was an AR-15 which aesthetically doesn't look dissimilar from military rifles. Ergo, the term "military-style" is an entirely valid detail.[/QUOTE] Every gun is military style though.
[QUOTE=deadoon;40507234]Every gun is military style though.[/QUOTE] Aesthetically? Not remotely true. Plenty of guns looks nothing like military assault rifles, it's just that AR-15's tend to do.
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[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507267]Aesthetically? Not remotely true. Plenty of guns looks nothing like military assault rifles, it's just that AR-15's tend to do.[/QUOTE] Name one that isn't, seriously, if its isn't remotely true that should be easy right?
[QUOTE=deadoon;40507285]Name one that isn't, seriously, if its isn't remotely true that should be easy right?[/QUOTE] Why are you being needlessly pedantic. Do you want a gun that doesn't look like a military-style rifle? Ok, the Ruger M77 Hawkeye. The Ruger Mini 14. The Ruger Varminter. Any revolver, most bolt-action rifles, anything that doesn't look like something a modern day military will use. We know he used an AR-15. Most people would say a general AR-15 would look like an M4 or an M16. Ergo, military style. Stop being silly.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507335]Why are you being needlessly pedantic. Do you want a gun that doesn't look like a military-style rifle? Ok, the Ruger M77 Hawkeye[B]M24 sniper rifle[/B]. The Ruger Mini 14[B]M14, easy[/B]. The Ruger Varminter[B]Maybe a springfield[/B]. Any revolver[B]colt .45[/B], most bolt-action rifles[B] Third time saying this[/B], anything that doesn't look like something a modern[B]adding information eh?[/B] day military will use. We know he used an AR-15. Most people would say a general AR-15 would look like an M4 or an M16. Ergo, military style. Stop being silly.[/QUOTE] ...Seriously?
How is understanding that we live in 2013 adding information? Yeah, maybe in 1907 the the Springfield M1903 could have been described as a military style weapon but not these days. So none of your examples count. Here, I'll make it really easy for you. Military style [img]http://i.imgur.com/17jx0hj.jpg[/img] Not military style [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pKkRu6M.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507335]Why are you being needlessly pedantic. Do you want a gun that doesn't look like a military-style rifle? Ok, the Ruger M77 Hawkeye. The Ruger Mini 14. The Ruger Varminter. Any revolver, most bolt-action rifles, anything that doesn't look like something a modern day military will use. We know he used an AR-15. Most people would say a general AR-15 would look like an M4 or an M16. Ergo, military style. Stop being silly.[/QUOTE] I was going to say bolt-action rifles and revolvers certainly are "military-style", but then you added the word "modern" to cover your ass. CNN didn't say "modern", just "military-style". Nearly every weapon is "military-style".
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40507479]I was going to say bolt-action rifles and revolvers certainly are "military-style", but then you added the word "modern" to cover your ass. CNN didn't say "modern", just "military-style". Nearly every weapon is "military-style".[/QUOTE] They didn't say modern because it's a fucking news article taking place in 2013 where AR-15's look like assault rifles the military uses jesus christ people. [editline]2nd May 2013[/editline] "Nearly every weapon is military style because the military uses guns" is entirely beside the point because they didn't call a Ruger hunting rifle a military style gun, they called an AR-15, [I][B]which is expressiely made and advertised to be similar to rifles the US military uses,[/B][/I] a military style gun.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507335]Why are you being needlessly pedantic. Do you want a gun that doesn't look like a military-style rifle? Ok, the Ruger M77 Hawkeye. The Ruger Mini 14. The Ruger Varminter. Any revolver, most bolt-action rifles, anything that doesn't look like something a modern day military will use. We know he used an AR-15. Most people would say a general AR-15 would look like an M4 or an M16. Ergo, military style. Stop being silly.[/QUOTE] Put a scope on any bolt-action, it becomes a "military sniper-rifle." 2 of the most popular bolts in the US, the Winchester M70 (based off the military-borne Mauser action) and the Remington 700 have both been used by the US military. The Ruger Mini-14 is parroted all around Canada as a "military-style assault weapon." The S&W M&P (Military & Police) Victory Model (also known as the K38 Masterpiece) .38 revolver was issued to military and police forces, as was the Colt M1873 Single Action Army. There is no such thing as looking "military-style," because just about everything looks like/is a gun that was, at some point, used by the military, and that makes it such a broad term it becomes irrelevant. The Remington 870 shotgun is more "military-style" than an AR-15, because it's [I]actually used by the military[/I], not to mention some of the world's most popular rifles are military surplus, like the Mosin-Nagant, the Lee-Enfield, the SKS, and any number of Mauser-derived rifles.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507496]They didn't say modern because it's a fucking news article taking place in 2013 where AR-15's look like assault rifles the military uses jesus christ people.[/QUOTE] We use alot of older equipment, would you say a m14 isn't modern, we still use it as a DM weapon, same with the m24, derived from the remington 700 made in the 60s the ar15/m16 is from the same era. Yep we are using a rifle nearly at it's 50th birthday.
[QUOTE=deadoon;40507285]Name one that isn't, seriously, if its isn't remotely true that should be easy right?[/QUOTE] Marlin 336. [img]http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/zoom_336A.jpg[/img] Ruger Mini-14. [img]http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/images/5801.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;40507479]I was going to say bolt-action rifles and revolvers certainly are "military-style", but then you added the word "modern" to cover your ass. CNN didn't say "modern", just "military-style". Nearly every weapon is "military-style".[/QUOTE] lol the weapon used is almost identical to a current issue military rifle. ergo the weapon is a military-style weapon. it's not a difficult concept to understand unless you are the 0.01% who gives a fuck. Believe it or not, CNN reports for the general public, not facepunch, so there is nothing wrong with what they said.
[QUOTE=deadoon;40507234]Every gun is military style though.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02293/james-huckle_2293748b.jpg[/img] [img]https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSc196XBWZEm1Ld5pP2gu_e7HXMUfYPRPpKMbAFSIhmKex7h06Z[/img] [img]https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLJHWVMZTqL0PMO5xYEDzCi7MuA9JzUr6yq9vtCCnsWpGSlcI3[/img] yeah
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;40507559]Ruger Mini-14. [img]http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14RanchRifle/images/5801.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Mini-14s are scaled down M1/M14/M1a pattern rifles, the USAF has been using rifles built around the same platform since the 30s, just in different calibers. So yeah it's technically "military style". Either way, the point he was making is that quite a lot of civilian firearms look similar to military issue models, and outside of lever-actions and revolvers he's pretty much right.
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;40507559]Marlin 336. [B][URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_repeating_rifle[/URL][/B] Ruger Mini-14. [B]read the thread again[/B][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=milkandcooki;40507585][IMG]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02293/james-huckle_2293748b.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSc196XBWZEm1Ld5pP2gu_e7HXMUfYPRPpKMbAFSIhmKex7h06Z[/IMG] [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLJHWVMZTqL0PMO5xYEDzCi7MuA9JzUr6yq9vtCCnsWpGSlcI3[/IMG] yeah[/QUOTE] You just posted, a gun used by the military currently(It looks like m14 based on design, may be wrong here as it is a competition rifle) , with paint and stickers on it, A gun formerly used by the military and one that looks like one used my the military currently, try again. Take back the first one, that is likely an air rifle, as I have found.
[QUOTE=DaCommie1;40507530]Put a scope on any bolt-action, it becomes a "military sniper-rifle." 2 of the most popular bolts in the US, the Winchester M70 (based off the military-borne Mauser action) and the Remington 700 have both been used by the US military. The Ruger Mini-14 is parroted all around Canada as a "military-style assault weapon." The S&W M&P (Military & Police) Victory Model (also known as the K38 Masterpiece) .38 revolver was issued to military and police forces, as was the Colt M1873 Single Action Army.[/QUOTE] Yes, we get it, you like guns. You come into every gun related thread to show how much you like and know about guns. We know how hard living in Canada is as a gun owner. [QUOTE] There is no such thing as looking "military-style," because just about everything looks like/is a gun that was, at some point, used by the military, and that makes it such a broad term it becomes irrelevant. [/QUOTE] Actually this is completely not true because outside of anal-retentive gun nerd Sensationalist Headlines loiterers, "military style" is an entirely reasonable way to describe how a firearm looks. Nobody thinks military style and applies it to literally every gun that was ever used by a military, they attach it to what the military uses right now. Because a gun was modified by the military 50 years ago and is no longer used in any widespread capacity doesn't mean that civilian hunting versions of that gun you find in walmart are called military style. [QUOTE=deadoon;40507553]We use alot of older equipment, would you say a m14 isn't modern, we still use it as a DM weapon, same with the m24, derived from the remington 700 made in the 60s the ar15/m16 is from the same era. Yep we are using a rifle nearly at it's 50th birthday.[/QUOTE] Yes I know all this you aren't saying anything you are just completley missing the point
[QUOTE=Camwi_003;40507559]Marlin 336.[/quote] The design and action of lever rifles was used in the US Civil War. The Marlin is therefore "military-style," as it's aesthetically and functionally similar to the Henry 1860. [quote]Ruger Mini-14.[/QUOTE] [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Mini-14]Used by police forces, as well as the militaries of Honduras and Bermuda.[/url]
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;40507598]Mini-14s are scaled down M1/M14/M1a pattern rifles, the USAF has been using rifles built around the same platform since the 30s, just in different calibers. So yeah it's technically "military style". Either way, the point he was making is that quite a lot of civilian firearms look similar to military issue models, and outside of lever-actions and revolvers he's pretty much right.[/QUOTE] Yes people are going to use the gun he posted a picture of in a shooting and CNN is going to call that military style because it looks and works somewhat like guns we used decades ago. Yes. No. [editline]2nd May 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=DaCommie1;40507628]The design and action of lever rifles was used in the US Civil War. The Marlin is therefore "military-style," as it's aesthetically and functionally similar to the Henry 1860.[/QUOTE] Yes someone will use a lever action rifle in a shooting and CNN will call it military style. Are you seriously being this ridiculous to try and prove a point?
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507630]Yes people are going to use the gun he posted a picture of in a shooting and CNN is going to call that military style because it looks and works somewhat like guns we used decades ago. Yes. No. [editline]2nd May 2013[/editline] Yes someone will use a lever action rifle in a shooting and CNN will call it military style. Are you seriously being this ridiculous to try and prove a point?[/QUOTE] The point he's trying to make is that the majority of civilian firearms are similar in appearance or design to weapons that were at one point military issue, making just about everything technically "military style".
Compromise with the anal retentive gun nerds of this thread: When CNN calls a Ruger a military-style semi-automatic rifle we can jump on their case and even make stupid irrelevant pictures where guns are misnamed. But until then they get to call guns that look like M16's "military style". Deal?
[QUOTE=milkandcooki;40507585][img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02293/james-huckle_2293748b.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] You win on this one.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;40507650]The point he's trying to make is that the majority of civilian firearms are similar in appearance or design to weapons that were at one point military issue, making just about everything technically "military style".[/QUOTE] Yes, [I]technically[/I]. Practically, no, no one is going to call any of the guns he is ridiculously drawing lines across tens or hundreds of years military style.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;40507630]Yes people are going to use the gun he posted a picture of in a shooting and CNN is going to call that military style because it looks and works somewhat like guns we used decades ago. Yes. No. [editline]2nd May 2013[/editline] Yes someone will use a lever action rifle in a shooting and CNN will call it military style. Are you seriously being this ridiculous to try and prove a point?[/QUOTE] Decades ago? How about still in use. Second comment is that they could still call it and it be an accurate description. Will they? Depends on the situation. [QUOTE=Raidyr;40507670]Yes, [I]technically[/I]. Practically, no, no one is going to call any of the guns he is ridiculously drawing lines across tens or hundreds of years military style.[/QUOTE] The ak47 is past it's 60'th birthday, is it no longer military style?
[QUOTE=deadoon;40507603]You just posted, a gun used by the military currently(It looks like m14 based on design, may be wrong here as it is a competition rifle) , with paint and stickers on it, A gun formerly used by the military and one that looks like one used my the military currently, try again.[/QUOTE] That's an Anschutz .22 dude...
[QUOTE=deadoon;40507673]Decades ago? How about still in use. The ak47 is past it's 60'th birthday, is it no longer military style?[/QUOTE] Hell, the Lee-Enfield is well over 100 years old, and still in active use by the Canadian Military, as well as police forces in Jamaica and Bangladesh, and that's not including the rebels and/or terrorists in the middle-east who still use them. The AR-15 is also over 50 years old.
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