• Fidel Castro dead at age 90
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[QUOTE=nutcake;51430587]Ok I have literally no clue who this is, never heard of him before. What did he do that everyone knows him and why is his death such a massive thing in the media?[/QUOTE] Did you sleep through all your history classes in high school? He led a communist revolution in the middle of the 20th century and defied the US
His final dying words: "Now that America is fucked, I can rest in piece"
[QUOTE=TheDrunkenOne;51430609]If you're still confused, he fought alongside Che Guevara, I'm sure you've seen his face before. [IMG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a1/FitzpatrickChe.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Che Guevara was betrayed by Fidel
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51429369]Who are the other two? [editline]26th November 2016[/editline] I imagine somewhere in a cubicle at Langely, someone just said "we finally got 'em guys!!" :v:[/QUOTE] somewhere theyre dusting off the old dry erase board covered in toxx clauses and crossing off the agents presently dead "well now you all have 72 hours to carry out your toxx..."
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;51430616]What kind of rock do you live under[/QUOTE] under rock where there is PC and a browser that supports only facepunch.com and nothing else
[QUOTE=nutcake;51430587]Ok I have literally no clue who this is, never heard of him before. What did he do that everyone knows him and why is his death such a massive thing in the media?[/QUOTE] I have to assume this user is pretty young to have never heard of Castro Otherwise just embarrassingly unaware.
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;51430794]I have to assume this user is pretty young to have never heard of Castro Otherwise just embarrassingly unaware.[/QUOTE] Probably the latter because just until this election I don't ever recall knowing who Donald Trump was. That either tells you he is a terrible businessman who can't be remembered for anything or my memory is just that bad. (then again I have terrible, terrible memory so maybe I just forgot about him)
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51430802]Probably the latter because just until this election I don't ever recall knowing who Donald Trump was. That either tells you he is a terrible businessman who can't be remembered for anything or my memory is just that bad. (then again I have terrible, terrible memory so maybe I just forgot about him)[/QUOTE] Whether you know him or not has nothing to do with how good or bad of a businessman he is, where did you get that idea?
People in this thread that are happy he spread his ideals onto more people have not lived through this mans tyranny. Like 13 year olds who wear Che shirts.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51430802]Probably the latter because just until this election I don't ever recall knowing who Donald Trump was. That either tells you he is a terrible businessman who can't be remembered for anything or my memory is just that bad. (then again I have terrible, terrible memory so maybe I just forgot about him)[/QUOTE] He was a pretty big on-air presence as well, being involved in wrestling and The Apprentice
Castro was at the funeral of former Canadian Prime Minster Pierre Trudeau, they were good friends. Justin has been saying good things about Castro, has had people angry at him
Good night and RIP dickass commie asshole. It's weird seeing a piece of history die.
[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;51430794]I have to assume this user is pretty young to have never heard of Castro Otherwise just embarrassingly unaware.[/QUOTE] I'm 21 and failed my history class. :pudge: And even though history is extremely boring to me, I've paid enough attention to know that we never talked about him, or even Che Guevara for that matter, in our classes. We basically learned the important bits up until and including the French revolution and then a few things about Germany in WW2.
Its amazing how people fail to understand how reality works. Really, reality. Most of the people in my facebook claim "How can people feel sad for a son of a bitch who ignored DDHH violations and didn't let the people of his country be free?" Well, we should ask how cuba was before with Batista and how the mass -most of the population- was after Castro came in to power. It is easy to argue he's a son of a bitch when you were born in a certain social class with certain economic benefits when those guy who were in the island couldn't read shit and now they have top class medics And the same goes for those stupids (can't find any other word) who say things like "Oh how ironic, """"capitalism"""" (quotes mine as IT IS NOT a political system) arguing in pro of DDHH when then it bombs africa and the middle east, he made the island a paradise". Well, people doesn't escape from a paradise in rafts towards the US.... Amazing.
Haha, he's fucking dead. God fucking bless that this communist human shaped tumor is dead. Maybe I'll visit cuba to set his grave on fire sometime.
[QUOTE=nutcake;51431008]I'm 21 and failed my history class. :pudge: And even though history is extremely boring to me, I've paid enough attention to know that we never talked about him, or even Che Guevara for that matter, in our classes. We basically learned the important bits up until and including the French revolution and then a few things about Germany in WW2.[/QUOTE] I would say that's surprising but half of my facebook feed has no idea who he is either.
[QUOTE=timothy80;51429404]Holy shit. I know he was a piece of shit and all, but I am really surprised to see him live that long. He caused a bit of history for the world as well with the cold war shit and all.[/QUOTE] How was he a piece of shit? Hes probably the best dictator of recent history... Yes still a dictator but if you have to choose...
The most ironic thing about his death was that he was against capitalism for most of his life - and he died on Black Friday.
[QUOTE=SirJon;51430643]Who by the way is the no.1 nomination for the "literally, totally seriously worse than hitler" award. Had this guy come to greater power, oh boy would latin america be in trouble. Even Castro kept him around only because he became an icon of the revolution.[/QUOTE] Ummm, Hitler is in a category all by himself. Che is no where, and I mean no where close to that category. Weather you wish to believe it or not, Che was a true reformer, and truly believed in the welfare of the people, and brought genuine good to those he fought for. He fought for the people and never stopped, not until he was killed in cold blood. This isn't to say that he wasn't ruthless in how he carried out his operations.
Czech president: [media]https://twitter.com/PrezidentZeman/status/802414065028972544[/media] [quote]Today marks the death of a great leader of the Cuban people, a democrat, and a fan of debates with his opponents, Fidel Castro.[/quote] [editline]26th November 2016[/editline] It's not really him but I could see him actually saying this and being serious about it.
[QUOTE=RobBrown4PM;51431076]Ummm, Hitler is in a category all by himself. Che is no where, and I mean no where close to that category. Weather you wish to believe it or not, Che was a true reformer, and truly believed in the welfare of the people, and brought genuine good to those he fought for. He fought for the people and never stopped, not until he was killed in cold blood. This isn't to say that he wasn't ruthless in how he carried out his operations.[/QUOTE] So did hitler. I stand by my word. If che had come to greater power, he'd be considered a worse dictator than hitler today. [editline]26th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Drury;51431085]Czech president: [media]https://twitter.com/PrezidentZeman/status/802414065028972544[/media] Honestly that sounds like sarcasm or purposeful shitposting, as if he's trying to purposefully claim the most absurd contradictions [editline]26th November 2016[/editline] It's not really him but I could see him actually saying this and being serious about it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SirJon;51431113]So did hitler. I stand by my word. [b]If che had come to greater power, he'd be considered a worse dictator than hitler today.[/B][/QUOTE] Based on which facts?
[QUOTE=RobBrown4PM;51431132]Based on which facts?[/QUOTE] That [I]obviously[/I] is an educated guess. Try to read about how much of a raping, war mongering, genociding monster che was, however, and you might share my opinion.
Love him or hate him he will always be an interesting part of history.
[QUOTE=SirJon;51430643]Who by the way is the no.1 nomination for the "literally, totally seriously worse than hitler" award. Had this guy come to greater power, oh boy would latin america be in trouble. Even Castro kept him around only because he became an icon of the revolution.[/QUOTE] Yeah, no. Che wasn't interested in having the raw power that Fidel had, and he wasn't motivated by it. He saw injustice in the world, especially in Cuba from its government at the time. If he wanted power, he wouldn't have left for Bolivia after. I think people are forgetting that there's really no way for a revolution of that magnitude to be peaceful. Do you think British loyalists were treated fairly during the American Revolution? No, the colonial revolutionaries treated them like garbage and were basically terrorists by today's standards. Castro and Che have been vilified by history, Castro even more so, but the Cuban revolution was just that. A revolution. You can't expect everyone to be all hunky dory and on the same side during a revolution. A lot of people are going to die. That doesn't mean Castro would have literally been worse than Hitler. He wasn't motivated by intense hate.
[QUOTE=Jojje;51430935]He was a pretty big on-air presence as well, being involved in wrestling and The Apprentice[/QUOTE] I guess those two just depend on what you watch. I was never into wrestling and never into reality tv shows and outside of real estate, golf clubs and his failed casino venture Trump has nothing noteworthy. It's weird because I love studying history and I can't remember one of the most modern public figures of our time. :v:
Does anyone have the time to give a crash course on how Castro fucked up Cuba and it's citizens?
Its a pretty grey topic mired by international politics and old feuds. Needless to say I don't understand what people in Miami are celebrating about, Castro basically won and hadn't been a relevant part of the Cuban government for a while now. People in the streets celebrating just seems pathetic to me
[QUOTE=download;51430137]I don't recall the US annexing any nations.[/QUOTE] They have a history of it, I mean in the 1800's they tried to annex Canada. We solved that by burning down the white house.
[QUOTE=LTJGPliskin;51431173]Yeah, no. Che wasn't interested in having the raw power that Fidel had, and he wasn't motivated by it. He saw injustice in the world, especially in Cuba from its government at the time. If he wanted power, he wouldn't have left for Bolivia after. I think people are forgetting that there's really no way for a revolution of that magnitude to be peaceful. Do you think British loyalists were treated fairly during the American Revolution? No, the colonial revolutionaries treated them like garbage and were basically terrorists by today's standards. Castro and Che have been vilified by history, Castro even more so, but the Cuban revolution was just that. A revolution. You can't expect everyone to be all hunky dory and on the same side during a revolution. A lot of people are going to die. That doesn't mean Castro would have literally been worse than Hitler. He wasn't motivated by intense hate.[/QUOTE] "vilified by history"? Are you joking? Che is cheered as "hero" in a substantial part of Latin America. He was a straight up psychopath. Hitler in comparison to him seems "merely misguided". I joked earlier about Fidel, you could argue for hours about him. Obviously, history isn't black and white, and Fidel is a good example of this. But Che, despite what pop culture t-shirts love to say, was not even close to a glorious idealistic revolutionary who only wanted people to be happy. Fidel is a grey area, as said before in this thread. But in order to excuse Che you'd have to be a literal sociopath, or just misinformed.
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