Steve King: Gays Shouldn't "Flaunt It" If They Don't Want To Suffer From Discrimination - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;21914693]Oh yes, because they haven't died in the last 2000 years, but I'm sure they'll just up and keel over if gay people stop telling people they're gay.[/QUOTE] Acceptance for Homosexuality en masse is a relatively new thing, and it's progressive now that it's been accepted as politically correct. I imagine now that the fuse has been lit, there will be a time when homosexuality is as normal as heterosexuality, just not in this day and age. [editline]01:07PM[/editline] [QUOTE=doommarine23;21914984]I'm Bi-sexual and flaunting Homos AND flaunting Heteros are the most annoying shit I ever seen. The difference is that the flaunting flaming Homo is typically protected and defended as a minority. You want fucking equality? Act normal, no one knows I'm Bi and even my best friends don't think I'm Bi, it isn't hard to act normal and to not act like you have to tell everyone you like dicks by some stupid flaunting attention whoring fashion. What do you think gay pride parades are? A bunch of naked gay guys going around like freaks, this fucking freaks people out and I can't blame them, [B]THIS IS THE IMAGE YOUR PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING, [/B] [IMG]http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/gay-pride-parade-toronto.jpg[/IMG] That doesn't look remotely normal to me in any way, and it's not like this is just one gay pride rally or one group of people, there is crazy gays at gay pride parades all the time. The problem with gays isn't gays, it's that the gay minority is that of weird flaming flaunting mofos who are loud as fuck and thus represent homosexuals. I am Bi-Sexual, I am in a gay relationship, I also like women. So I know what I am talking about, I am not bias because I can't be bias because I am both a Homo and a Hetero. There is annoying Heterosexuals but I've never seen any Heteros who flaunted as loudly as Homos have. You want respect? Act like a normal person in society and no one will care, Gays aren't discriminated for liking men, but because people think of that flaming minority when you say gay. "Then why is it okay to flaunt your heterosexuality? IE: talking about what chick you banged last night or w/e." That also isn't flaunting, that's trying to impress your peers.[/QUOTE] Gay Pride Parades don't incite acceptance from those who do not already accept homosexuality, it provokes the opposite reaction most likely. I like to think of it in the sense of a furry starting a furry pride thread in General, other furries may come in and show their support, some non-furries may come in and tell the furries there's a forum for them and that this isn't really the best place for this kind of stuff, but the most common reaction is that of disgust and disapproval, not acceptance. Flaunting your sexuality in this manner just isn't the way to change people's bigoted opinions, it's probably the worst way of achieving this goal, all it does is further push away the two rival parties by giving homophobes something to complain about, then inversely homosexuals can complain about homophobes complaining, etc ad infinitum, it's just adding fuel to the fire. A political campaign would probably better achieve the goal of acceptance. [editline]01:10PM[/editline] [QUOTE=sp00ks;21917749]I am surprised just how stupid and bigoted most of FP is. Saying they shouldn't "flaunt it" is like saying black people should use make-up to cover their skin.[/QUOTE] I'm bisexual, but I'm aware that there exists consequences for my actions, regardless of whether or not my actions are right or not. Pride over responsibility is hilariously ignorant. I've never had a problem with homophobia, because I keep my opinions and values to myself, sharing them only with people who would like to. I'm not going to sit here and say that it's right for a gay man not to be able to openly admit he's gay without facing persecution, because it's not, but what I am going to say is that it's terribly ignorant to well, ignore that doing so will likely end badly if you're unlucky enough to be in the presence of a hardcore homophobe. [editline]01:17PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21916789]I agree with him TBH. Before i'm accused of being homophobic; i'm a homosexual myself. But i don't act 'gay' so to speak.[/QUOTE] I can attest to this man's homosexuality. He gay.

Both the interviewer and the interviewee are bigoted fuckers. TH89 has a real point. Heterosexuality is shoved down everyone's throats. Homosexuality should be as well. [editline]09:23AM[/editline] Also, I met a hardcore homophobe once. He's never made the mistake of saying anything even remotely homophobic in my presence again.

[QUOTE=Riutet;21918910] I can attest to this man's homosexuality. He gay.[/QUOTE] Who the fuck are you D:

boohoo the world is built on heterosexual ideas.

[QUOTE=Rick Ross;21913053]Yes. Kids making fun of other kids keep clothes in check by making fun of stupid shit other kids wear. The reason why we have this skinny-jean wearing generation is because nobody makes fun of eachother anymore.[/QUOTE] Good lord. I honestly hope this isn't a serious post. Are you reading what you're saying?

Nobody paid attention to what the guy said. "...If They Don't Want To Suffer From Discrimination". It's a persons choice, they can flaunt it all they want, they just have to learn to deal with the fact there are people out there who will always hate or make fun of you, but that's how the world is. You can't just complain to everyone or start a boycott every time you get discriminated. It's life. Gays will be discriminated for being different, straights will be discriminated for being perverts. There are always people who ruin a group and some people who actually keep it to themselves. I know a lot of gays who don't go around everywhere announcing it, they just keep to themselves and date other guys, whatever, and theres plenty of heterosexuals the same way, just with girls. So if people don't want to be discriminated, then don't flaunt anything. You cannot change the fact that people don't like you, because there are always people who hate you just for being different. So flaunt all you want if you're strong enough to ignore people like that.

He has a point to an extent.

[QUOTE=Superginger;21920233]Good lord. I honestly hope this isn't a serious post. Are you reading what you're saying?[/QUOTE] I do concur. Whats wrong with skinny jeans anyway?

[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21916789]I agree with him TBH. Before i'm accused of being homophobic; i'm a homosexual myself. But i don't act 'gay' so to speak. Being gay isn't a package deal with flamboyancy and shit. Being gay is a sexuality; not a personality programmed into you. Gays who are flamboyant and stereotypical aren't like that because they're gay - they're like it because they're douchebags, or they often had heterosexuality imposed on them thoroughly in their earlier life when they were younger (but old enough to know their sexuality) so this is like a defensive mechanism. I'm not saying it's wrong to be proud of your sexuality (gay or straight), or you should be forced to be in the closet, or you shouldn't even go out of your way to look more attractive (With the acception of dying your hair pink and wearing female headbands and shit like that, that deeply implies you're gay). - But it's not black and white like staticman acts in the first page. It's not 'be flamboyant and tell everyone you're gay' or 'be in the closet'. Just don't constantly bring it up, or imply it and shit, because people (mostly hetero males) feel imposed by it, and that's going to get the shit beaten out of you. Constantly is the keyword, its perfectly okay to bring it up in conversation every now and then, just not constantly. You can't go around saying 'i'm normal i'm normal' and then act completely abnormal.[/QUOTE] So to avoid imposing on these heterosexuals should I not take my boyfriend on dates or hold his hand in public? Should we perhaps get girlfriends so we don't offend other people? I mean by having a boyfriend in public I am implying I am gay and if you saw me dining in a restaurant with him, I am sure you would kind of make the connection, which some straight people might find threatening. Maybe I should just never be seen in public with him right? I mean we can express our love in a motel room where [U][I]regular[/I][/U] people don't have to see it, right? After all, I don't want to offend anyone's beliefs.

What angers me beyond all else here is that they're confusing homosexuality with crossdressing. They know jack shit and they talk like they're an authority on it.

[QUOTE=TailsPrower;21917291]When was the last time you got a beer bottle thrown at you for being straight? I wanna fucking know. No, fuck you all. If you are straight, you have the option of just floating along, accepting everything your friends dictate as normal and masculine, with no one thinking differently of you. You have no idea what it's like to live in a society where you are a second class citizen, who's exempt from being a man, all because of who you love. More than just who you love: what you dress like, what you do in your spare time, your hair, how you talk, how you walk, who you talk to, what you watch, what you listen to, your hobbies, your interests, your crushes and love interests: [I][B]it all labels you as a faggot.[/B][/I] You have no choice but to flaunt it; walking in the fucking mall is "flaunting" it. Don't give me any of that don't flaunt it bullshit; black people get to be as proud as they want of their culture, fuck, they even get their own college degree course, but fags need to stay in the shadows because they're [I]weird.[/I] Awesome, there are annoying gay people. Guess what, there are annoying straight people. I'm not trying to shove it in your face, but I'm not going to sit in the shadows and pretend I'm someone I'm not. No, I'll be whoever I wanna be, I'm going to stand up for what I believe in, I'm going to fight for my rights. I'm labeled as a flaming faggot, and I have more balls than you, Mike Huckabee, Steve King, and any of you other redneck fuckers. I have the courage to break the mold and live a little, I don't go around caring what other people think of me. ALSO, this just came to my mind: how many of you talk about hot chicks with other guys? How many of you brag about getting some, how many of you talk about girls like they are some sort of sex toy? What about those guys who have pictures of hot chicks on their t-shirts? [B][I]How many straight people wear their sexuality on their sleeve?[/I][/B] It does exist, you just don't realize it because it's normal. If I talked about my sexual experiences, I'd either get everyone going "EEEWWW" or someone would tell me to shut up.[/QUOTE] A-fuckin'-men. Fucking homophobes.

[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;21916789]I agree with him TBH. Before i'm accused of being homophobic; i'm a homosexual myself. But i don't act 'gay' so to speak. Being gay isn't a package deal with flamboyancy and shit. Being gay is a sexuality; not a personality programmed into you. Gays who are flamboyant and stereotypical aren't like that because they're gay - they're like it because they're douchebags, or they often had heterosexuality imposed on them thoroughly in their earlier life when they were younger (but old enough to know their sexuality) so this is like a defensive mechanism. I'm not saying it's wrong to be proud of your sexuality (gay or straight), or you should be forced to be in the closet, or you shouldn't even go out of your way to look more attractive (With the acception of dying your hair pink and wearing female headbands and shit like that, that deeply implies you're gay). - But it's not black and white like staticman acts in the first page. It's not 'be flamboyant and tell everyone you're gay' or 'be in the closet'. Just don't constantly bring it up, or imply it and shit, because people (mostly hetero males) feel imposed by it, and that's going to get the shit beaten out of you. Constantly is the keyword, its perfectly okay to bring it up in conversation every now and then, just not constantly. You can't go around saying 'i'm normal i'm normal' and then act completely abnormal.[/QUOTE] The whole point of activities that people seem to see as "flaunting" are from gays who are, get ready for this, NOT uncomfortable with their sexual orientation. They embrace it and see it as their way of life , and aren't afraid to hide it just because prevailing social norms sees it as not being "normal". I imagine this dipshit Steve King is trying to play to people's image's of a gay pride parade where everyone is being flamboyant (and again people miss the point of those... they're showing that they won't be intimidated and hide in the closet) and by extension people's insecurities about gays. I mean the guy is going completely to cross-dressers and transsexuals and complaining how it would "harass" conservative businesses, over a drive to protect discrimination against gays in employments. He's side-stepping the obvious issue of discrimination gays suffer in any workplace. Most gays won't come to their work place dressed in drag, but working with someone long enough you will come to know their personal views and preferences even if they seem "normal" on the outside In his opinion, gays should not act gay if they worried about discrimination, and thus they won't need this protection. He'd rather they live in meek acceptance of the situation and not complain against the "will" of the masses, the god-fearing conservative Americans. If people were fired from their occupation for being a rabid Christian, there would be plenty of bitching about how they can't express their religion. Why is it different with someone's sexual preference? I mean if what you say about your orientation is true, this statement should come off as idiotic.

People think I'm gay just because I like to wear this shirt [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_W0OjI6B89xM/SLQWLuKT5XI/AAAAAAAAAqk/Y8G0tzm2Xzg/s320/afternoon+delight.gif[/img] :gonk:

When did Facepunch start getting this conservative? You're all becoming morons.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;21925662]When did Facepunch start getting this conservative? You're all becoming morons.[/QUOTE] Becoming? A lot of facepunch are naturally quite fucking retarded. You've seen the posts, you've read some of the dumbest shit. We may be a generally leaning left forum, but there's a fuck load of people who don't know anything at all, hear 5 words from the other side, and flip flop on a moral issue because they don't know how anything works.

It's not like straight people go into gay bars and saying "Oh look at me, look at me wearing non-camp clothes and banging women!" Sure, gays don't do that either but all the rainbow flags and such rubbish is just irriating.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;21925702]Becoming? A lot of facepunch are naturally quite fucking retarded. You've seen the posts, you've read some of the dumbest shit. We may be a generally leaning left forum, but there's a fuck load of people who don't know anything at all, hear 5 words from the other side, and flip flop on a moral issue because they don't know how anything works.[/QUOTE] Fair enough. [editline]03:19PM[/editline] [QUOTE=robowurmz;21925713]It's not like straight people go into gay bars and saying "Oh look at me, look at me wearing non-camp clothes and banging women!" Sure, gays don't do that either but all the rainbow flags and such rubbish is just irriating.[/QUOTE] How dare they have a LOGO DEAR LORD THAT'S AWFUL

[QUOTE=robowurmz;21925713]It's not like straight people go into gay bars and saying "Oh look at me, look at me wearing non-camp clothes and banging women!" Sure, gays don't do that either but all the rainbow flags and such rubbish is just irriating.[/QUOTE] And straight guys walking around with shirts that flaunt their sexuality is fine, but if I SEE ONE MORE GOD DAMN RAINBOW, SOMEONES GONNA GET AN ASS KICKING. Right? There's nothing reasonable about saying it's fine for one side, but not the other.

That's not what I'm trying to say - what I'm trying to say is, why bother having a logo? Is it really that important? Should straight people have their own logo too? Doing stuff like that just creates more distance between them anyway. That's like waving a flag that says "I AM OF DIFFERENT ETHNIC ORIGIN FROM EVERONE ELSE" and when someone says something about it they say "THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE WE ARE ALL THE SAME".

[QUOTE=robowurmz;21926163]That's not what I'm trying to say - what I'm trying to say is, why bother having a logo? Is it really that important? Should straight people have their own logo too? Doing stuff like that just creates more distance between them anyway. That's like waving a flag that says "I AM OF DIFFERENT ETHNIC ORIGIN FROM EVERONE ELSE" and when someone says something about it they say "THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE WE ARE ALL THE SAME".[/QUOTE] All people are people, and all people deserve the same rights. All people separate themselves into separate groups. Those groups all deserve the same rights provided they don't hurt anyone. Differentiating yourself from the rest is what people do.

[QUOTE=robowurmz;21926163]That's like waving a flag that says "I AM OF DIFFERENT ETHNIC ORIGIN FROM EVERONE ELSE"[/QUOTE] Their face does that anyway. Are you saying that black people should white their face before going out into public to avoid discrimination? [editline]04:36PM[/editline] You should be allowed to display who you are without being the target of moronic bigots.

Why is FP getting dumber? :geno:

He is 100% Correct. Same applies to everyone. Furries too, that's why everyone hates them.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;21931669]He is 100% Correct. Same applies to everyone. Furries too, that's why everyone hates them.[/QUOTE] Again, is this thread about gays, or furries?

[QUOTE=staticman;21931707]Why are you trying to derail the thread?[/QUOTE] What? I'm simply stating my response to the video, which is what this thread is about. So if you're thinking I've derailed it, it must already be derailed.

[QUOTE=Rubs10;21931669]He is 100% Correct. Same applies to everyone. Furries too, that's why everyone hates them.[/QUOTE] Anyone who goes out of their way to hate on furries is just as bad as anyone who goes out of their way to hate on homosexuals. If you don't like something just fucking ignore it. I don't participate in furry whatnot yet you don't see me running around trolling them for no reason. Learn from this.

Ironic, heterosexual get nauseous at the sight of gays holding hands in public, but do gays get offended when you are making out with your girlfriend in the movie theatre?

[QUOTE=staticman;21911407] Then why is it okay to flaunt your heterosexuality? IE: talking about what chick you banged last night or w/e.[/QUOTE] Because our straight friends actually give a shit.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;21931774]Anyone who goes out of their way to hate on furries is just as bad as anyone who goes out of their way to hate on homosexuals. If you don't like something just fucking ignore it. I don't participate in furry whatnot yet you don't see me running around trolling them for no reason. Learn from this.[/QUOTE] That's a true statement, but we both know that isn't going to happen with the general public anytime soon. [QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;21932356]Because our straight friends actually give a shit.[/QUOTE] Just like our gay friends give a shit about how Stevey banged Bobby in the butthole. Ya know Facepunch. I don't even want to hear it from you. You talk about "Oh, waaahhhh, we should be careful what we say because we don't know if we're talking to a gay person". And yet every day I come on here reading post that have a blatant disregard for any religious members on Facepunch. But do as I say and not as a I do, eh Facepunch?

douchebag trying to be cool by flaunting how straight they are, wearing naked women t-shirts, saying they like pussy, and how fucking women is good. douchebag going around saying he's gay to everyone he meets and tries to act superior and mighty to everyone because he is simply gay and knows that any haters can be called homophobic i have no idea who i hate more